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Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 14:44:16 No.19067356 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19067386 >>19067429

http://serebii.net/potw-xy/687.shtml

>Positives
>Contrary and Superpower is an awesome combo.
>Its pre-evo Inkay is the cutest thing in Kalos.
>... uhh... I guess that's it.
Who writes this shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 14:45:46 No.19067367 Report

Quoted By: >>19067373 >>19067459

Inkay IS the cutest Kalon mon, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 14:45:53 No.19067368 Report

Quoted By: >>19067376

Serebii's layout is shit in my opinion.

I actually like the wiki feel to bulbapedo, despite how much of a dickhead he is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 14:46:44 No.19067371 Report

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To be fair, Malamar is a shitmon. You too would struggle to think of positives for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 14:46:50 No.19067373 Report

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>>19067367
*Kalos
gosh I'm embarrassed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 14:47:44 No.19067376 Report

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>>19067368
>Serebii's layout is shit in my opinion.

That's not like it's an unpopular opinion. His layout is severely outdated. 'Course, I think he's trying to revamp the website at some point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 14:49:51 No.19067386 Report

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>>19067356
>Who writes this shit?
Someone who doesn't obsess over stupid autistic shit like how he's the only dark type that's also psychic that's also a squid, or how his pokedex number happens to be a sum of two other pokemon that have the same type, or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 14:51:16 No.19067392 Report

Quoted By: >>19067471

Where's the obligatory Delphox hate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 14:56:08 No.19067420 Report

Quoted By: >>19067471

Where is the obligatory comment on how it has a STAB that humiliates Delphox even further, proving who the real mage of Kalos is? Or some shit like that, as long as serebii fucks over Delphox.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 14:57:53 No.19067429 Report

Quoted By: >>19067446 >>19067453 >>19067478 >>19068078

>>19067356
- A grand total of zero resistances.
- Malamar doesn't get any of the cool Dark type moves you would expect an evil hypnotic squid to have like Knock Off, Sucker Punch, Pursuit, and Dark Void.
- Topsy-Turvy is utterly useless.
- It is slow.
- Average at best defenses mean Malamar has a lot of trouble surviving long enough to accumulate enough Superpower boosts.
- 92 base Attack isn't very much especially when your STAB moves have only 70 base power. For example Jolly Life Orb Terrakion Close Combat has nearly 3x the power of Malamar's Night Slash.
- Happy Hour is a cool secret move but it's a Japan only event which you probably don't have access to.
- It gets Calm Mind and a decent Special movepool that it can make absolutely no use of.

>Topsy-Turvy is utterly useless
>Topsy-Turvy is useless
>Topsy-Turvy
>Useless

this is some top-tier fucking nonsense right here. Jesus Christ it's not fucking Geomancy but it's an pretty decent move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:01:12 No.19067441 Report

Quoted By: >>19067617 >>19067637

How do we fix Malamar?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:01:16 No.19067442 Report

Quoted By: >>19067451 >>19067461 >>19067462

> Negatives
> A grand total of zero resistances.
Yeah, who cares about having an immunity to Psychic and only two weaknesses.

> Topsy-Turvy is utterly useless.
What is a baton pass team
What is a double battle

> It is slow.
Slow enough to work in a trick room team, fast enough to screw the opponents trick room team.

> 92 base Attack isn't very much especially when your STAB moves have only 70 base power.
Superpower has a power of 120 (equivalent of a 80power stabbed attack) and raises his attack and defense by one stage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:02:07 No.19067446 Report

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>>19067429
it's pretty useless on malamar tbf, I can't really think of a single set up mon that malamar could do that to (unless it was sashed)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:03:53 No.19067451 Report

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>>19067442
>Yeah, who cares about having an immunity to Psychic and only two weaknesses.
The two weaknesses are both extremely common (U-Turn and Fairy type pokemon in general)

Psychic type immunity is nothing to be proud of when nobody uses psychic type moves anymore except for Alakazam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:04:09 No.19067453 Report

Quoted By: >>19067460

>>19067429

>it is slow

Every

Fucking

Pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:05:09 No.19067459 Report

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>>19067367
Wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:05:13 No.19067460 Report

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>>19067453
Not a good thing when you're fragile, like Malamar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:05:14 No.19067461 Report

Quoted By: >>19067538

>>19067442
>immunity to a unpopular type
Y-yay?

>Malamar on your BP team
Fucking kekeroo

First part is fair, second part not so much, being a check to trick room isn't really all that great (he's outclassed there as well)

92 base attack is still very low, and it'll take alot of boosts before he's even close to a threat.

Malamar just isn't very good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:05:17 No.19067462 Report

Quoted By: >>19067466

>>19067442

See thats issue

Smogon and especially Serebii dont pay attention to Pokemon that are meant for fucking double battles and judge them alone

Same goes especially for Cherrim

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:05:55 No.19067464 Report

Quoted By: >>19068087

>move tutors released
>malamar gets knock off,close combat, hammer arm,drain punch, and a dark void event is released

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:06:22 No.19067466 Report

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>>19067462
but theres a doubles analysis for Malamar in that write-up. Did you even fucking read it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:06:53 No.19067471 Report

Quoted By: >>19067481

>>19067392
>>19067420
What's the tea on this? Does he hate the magic fox?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:09:45 No.19067478 Report

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>>19067429
>- Happy Hour is a cool secret move but it's a Japan only event which you probably don't have access to.
That gives me mind to hack up a box of them and WT them out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:10:02 No.19067481 Report

Quoted By: >>19067614

>>19067471
it's a running joke on how delphox is usually mentioned in a non positive light on most POTW write ups

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:17:53 No.19067538 Report

Quoted By: >>19067548

>>19067461
>>Malamar on your BP team
>Fucking kekeroo
As in a counter to them. Topsy-Turvy inverts their stat changes so instead of +5 speed/+3 Sp. Attack/+3Sp. Def/+2 Defense/+4 Attack
They have shit tons of stat negatives. and hes immune to Stored Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:20:30 No.19067548 Report

Quoted By: >>19067713

>>19067538
Except he dies to M-Horn from scolipede, or a dazzling gleam from espeon.

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Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:31:13 No.19067614 Report

Quoted By: >>19067841 >>19068102

>>19067481
That cheeky cunt

Delphox isn't even a bad pokémon, it just could be much better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:31:37 No.19067617 Report

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>>19067441
V-create + Knock Off would make it usable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:35:08 No.19067637 Report

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>>19067441
better stats really

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:51:33 No.19067713 Report

Quoted By: >>19067767

>>19067548
>Red Card Malamar
Bye bye Espeon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 15:59:58 No.19067767 Report

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>>19067713
>red card malamar

doesn't work if killed in one hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 16:06:12 No.19067807 Report

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>tfw running choice malamar variant
>tfw it runs pretty good if you watch for checks/counters

Usually, I use him as a suicide lead (except the opponent has an obvious u-turn lead)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 16:07:39 No.19067831 Report

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What Malamar really needs, is an ability or move that turns the battle into an Inverse Battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 16:09:35 No.19067841 Report

Quoted By: >>19067972

>>19067614
Humorously, Delphox is in the top 5 in RU right now, so it's not complete worthless garbage.
R-right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 16:28:57 No.19067972 Report

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>>19067841
Sorry to say it, but it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 16:46:28 No.19068078 Report

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>>19067429
Topsy-Turvy is amazing. It counters Baton Pass so brilliantly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 16:47:52 No.19068087 Report

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>>19067464
Man, I cannot wait for Move Tutors.
Night Slash is an OK move, but Knock Off would be incredible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 16:50:39 No.19068102 Report

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>>19067614
Delphox isn't a bad Pokémon, but it's outclassed by most other Fire type special attackers.
Plus, Psychic typing sucks even more this gen with the buffs given to Dark, such as increased BP for Knock-Off.
If Mega Delphox got an ability that made it immune to Dark, then it might be worth looking into, as it'd have an amazing niche.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 16:50:56 No.19068104 Report

Quoted By: >>19068122 >>19068158

>92 base Attack isn't very much especially when your STAB moves have only 70 base power. For example Jolly Life Orb Terrakion Close Combat has nearly 3x the power of Malamar's Night Slash.

wow a pokemon that has nothing to do with Malamar can do more damage

amazing

Malamar wasn't even meant to be a pure physical attacker like Terrakion.

But hey, at least they didn't mention Delphox this week! Did they stop with that when they realized it's actually not bad at all in the lower tiers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 16:52:07 No.19068113 Report

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at least serebii's gotten past the idea that "all nfes bar BALKE DUCKE/chansey/etc are shitmons"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 16:53:23 No.19068122 Report

Quoted By: >>19068158 >>19068175

>>19068104
>There are other pokemon which fullfill the role of Malamar better
>it has nothing to do with malamar!!!1

And I just assume you're trolling when you say Malamar should be a mixed attacker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 16:58:02 No.19068158 Report

Quoted By: >>19068165

>>19068122
I bet you're topping all the ladders.

>>19068104
The weird thing is that Serebii sometimes has LC analyses but they're assuming all fully-evolved pokemon are going to be used in OU. Delphox is a menace in RU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 16:59:28 No.19068165 Report

Quoted By: >>19068274

>>19068158
>I bet you're topping all the ladders.
No arguments result in ad hominem. Just admit you're full of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 17:00:57 No.19068175 Report

Quoted By: >>19068191

>>19068122
I'm saying it was meant more as a support/status mon, not pure offense. That's reflected in its stats and movepool. It got lucky when they gave it both Contrary and Superpower.

In what way does Terrakion have the same role as Malamar? Terrakion a fast setup/choice sweeper, that is not at all what Malamar's role is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 17:03:15 No.19068191 Report

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>>19068175
outclassed in that role as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 May 2014 17:10:59 No.19068274 Report

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>>19068165
I'm not even the other guy, and I'm not arguing with you.
Isn't it obvious by the way I replied to his post?

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