>>19079086hmm, charizard may suck, i mean some people’s charizards my charizard can survive a stealth rock easily, and no i don’t EV or IV train my pokemon. a pokemon is strong as how well you take care of it. when my charizard was level 58 it was able to defeat my friend’s swampert and onix. point is its all on the trainer if the pokemon sucks or not