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Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 19:38:56 No.19104709 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19105490

How do these four Pokémon fare in XY?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 19:42:06 No.19104769 Report

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I remember Starmie getting out dommaged and outsped thanks to powercreep.

Snorlax was out since Gen IV I think? Still viable, just not the beast it used to be.

Zapdos I think flutters in and out of OU, and like Snorlax, is still a force to be reckoned with.

I don't even wanna talk about that fucker Gengar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 19:42:28 No.19104778 Report

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zapdos is a good defogger and physical wall that can actually counter bisharp with heat wave

gengar is the only gen 1 mon left that's been OU for all 6 generations

snorlax is mediocre

starmie got hit hard by the ghost/dark buff and is now UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 19:44:10 No.19104818 Report

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http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue14/borntosurvive

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Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 19:44:46 No.19104831 Report

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Zapdos was in OU last time I checked.
Starmie fell to UU making Gengar the last man standing
Snorlax continues its downward spiral since gen 3. It's fucking amazing in Inverse though. Fucker is on every other team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 19:44:54 No.19104834 Report

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Lightningrod Zapdos would have been broken like Shadow Tag Chandelure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 19:46:23 No.19104875 Report

Quoted By: >>19104948 >>19104960

Gengar's still doing great.

Zapdos is back in OU again.

Snorlax is still UU.

Starmie fell to UU because of Defog made all other spinners besides Excadrill worthless, Bisharp and Aegislash are everywhere, and Greninja took its spot as the fast special attacking Water type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 19:48:52 No.19104948 Report

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>>19104875
Snorlax is still UU? I would have figured it would be in RU by now, it really hasn't gotten anything new since gen 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 19:49:18 No.19104960 Report

Quoted By: >>19105044 >>19105336

>>19104875
Excadrill is a shit, Bisharp is a shame upon the greatest game of all, Aegislash is badly designed and Greninja is the worst starter of all time.

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Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 19:50:45 No.19104997 Report

Quoted By: >>19105237

Gengar gets nothing but buffs every fucking gen. Its mega form is the most broken thing to ever grace the single meta, and even without its stone, Ghost got buff to be neutral to steel.

Starmie hasn't changed a single bit. In fact, this gen every single one of its moves got lowered in power. After five straight generations it finally fell to UU from sheer power creep. I'm honestly sorry for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 19:52:26 No.19105044 Report

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>>19104960
Stay mad Starmiefag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 19:56:19 No.19105134 Report

Quoted By: >>19105487

>>19105044
I'm not a Starmiefag, I love Starmie, Gengar, Slowbro, Tauros, Lapras, Golem, Rhydon, Snorlax, Chansey, Exeggutor, Alakazam and Dragonite in equal measure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 20:01:34 No.19105237 Report

Quoted By: >>19105307

>>19104997
It's less from power creep and more that excadrill is a better spinner and starmie can't do shit to aegislash, the most common spinblocker

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 20:02:08 No.19105250 Report

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We Ghost-type Outrage when ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 20:03:35 No.19105288 Report

Quoted By: >>19105326

Starmie was great.

Shame it never got protean though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 20:04:25 No.19105307 Report

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>>19105237
Excadrill is only a better spinner because it can get past Aegislash. Starmie is faster, has better coverage and Analytic boosted coverage moves really sting anything that's trying to switch in.

It's entirely what I meant: a new spinblocker came around that Starmie can't beat. That's power creep.

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Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 20:05:26 No.19105326 Report

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>>19105288
>Protean Starmie

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 20:05:55 No.19105336 Report

Quoted By: >>19105395

>>19104960
Cool opinions, don't you have a blog to put them on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 20:08:19 No.19105395 Report

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>>19105336
No, I use 4chan for that.

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Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 20:12:03 No.19105487 Report

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>>19105134
>he likes Golem

My nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 20:12:12 No.19105490 Report

Quoted By: >>19105810

>>19104709
Starmie and Snorlax fell to power creep. Zapdos did too, but Defog recently made it relevant again.

Gengar is the fucking gift that keeps on giving. Every gen gives it a new trick to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 20:25:17 No.19105810 Report

Quoted By: >>19105825

>>19105490
>Zapdos did too, but Defog recently made it relevant again.

Mega Pinsir played a role in Zapdos's return to OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 20:25:48 No.19105825 Report

Quoted By: >>19105942

>>19105810
it also helps that it's the only defogger that can OHKO bisharp

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 20:30:27 No.19105942 Report

Quoted By: >>19105997

>>19105825
Mega Scizor can do that too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 May 2014 20:32:45 No.19105997 Report

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>>19105942
True, I forgot about him

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