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Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 21:25:41 No.19127450 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19127491 >>19127506 >>19127778 >>19127936 >>19128027 >>19128048 >>19128645 >>19128650 >>19128705

Ok, /vp/, who is our champ in ORAS? Are we back to Steven or does Wallace keep his title?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 21:28:01 No.19127491 Report

Quoted By: >>19127865 >>19127915 >>19128064

>>19127450
I like Steven as a champ better, BUT I also like challenging Steven in a cave with obscenely tough pokemon.

Maybe if you beat Steven once, he'll retire the title to Wallace and go seek training in the mountain, and after you beat Wallace you can go find Steven and battle him again, tougher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 21:28:46 No.19127506 Report

Quoted By: >>19127636

>>19127450
Brendan will be the champion

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 21:33:35 No.19127575 Report

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What would your reaction be if Juan was the Champion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 21:35:48 No.19127604 Report

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We all know it's going to be Cynthia.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 21:38:11 No.19127636 Report

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>>19127506
>the name is internationally changed to it's german version

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 21:49:53 No.19127778 Report

Quoted By: >>19127884 >>19127977

>>19127450
Steven! Absolutely Steven.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 21:50:33 No.19127787 Report

Quoted By: >>19128057

>yfw steven researches (MEGA)stones some years before they start actually becoming a thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 21:52:00 No.19127809 Report

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Steven with mega metagross

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 21:54:49 No.19127865 Report

Quoted By: >>19127905

>>19127491

That's be a pretty good solution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 21:56:31 No.19127884 Report

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>>19127778
Hnngh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 21:58:01 No.19127905 Report

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>>19127865
I just hope they don't fuck up and don't increase E4 levels on the second time you face it. Also, gym leader rematches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 21:58:56 No.19127915 Report

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>>19127491
Pls be this.
I know it wont though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:00:26 No.19127936 Report

Quoted By: >>19127969

>>19127450
It'll be Peeko

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:02:49 No.19127969 Report

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>>19127936

>Peeko peek!
>Peeko would like to battle!
>Peeko sent out MR. BRINEY
>it's a Pelipper

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:03:06 No.19127977 Report

Quoted By: >>19128067

>>19127778
Put your suit back on, Steven, for fuck's sake. Nobody wants to see that.

I am hoping for a sexy Steven redesign, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:04:34 No.19127995 Report

Quoted By: >>19128042 >>19128064

It's just a remake. Nothing new aside a few things will change, unlike HGSS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:06:16 No.19128027 Report

Quoted By: >>19128042 >>19128054

>>19127450
>May and Brendan both take over for Professor Birch, who you only meet postgame
>Wally becomes the gym leader of Petalburg, using Gallade and a diverse team
>Norman becomes the champ, with three Mega, Truantless Slaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:06:37 No.19128033 Report

Quoted By: >>19128042

>Hoenn introduced double battles
>Hoenn has two champions

We will obviously get a double battle with Wallace and Steven.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:07:18 No.19128042 Report

Quoted By: >>19128064 >>19128077

>>19128027
>>19128033
see
>>19127995
It's a remake, not a sequel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:07:38 No.19128048 Report

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>>19127450
Different champs in each version like BW2
Alpha is the beginning so it'll have Steven, Omega is the end, so Wallace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:08:03 No.19128054 Report

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>>19128027
Mega ability
parental bond

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:08:12 No.19128057 Report

Quoted By: >>19128089

>>19127787
>yfw he has permanent mega pokes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:08:36 No.19128064 Report

Quoted By: >>19128093

>>19127995
>>19128042

The OP is talking about the difference between R/S and Emerald. The remakes could take either path, or some sort of compromise like >>19127491

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:08:44 No.19128067 Report

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>>19127977
Very well, if you insist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:09:15 No.19128077 Report

Quoted By: >>19128093

>>19128042
Did I say it was a sequel? HGSS took elements from Crystal. So, these remakes can take elements from Emerald and change things up while still being the same story, mostly. Remember that Groudon and Kyogre are pretty clearly getting new formes, st the very least, so the games won't be the exact same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:10:06 No.19128089 Report

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>>19128057
>perma mega aggron
>with leftovers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:10:17 No.19128093 Report

Quoted By: >>19128109 >>19128294

>>19128064
It'll most likely just be a remake of emerald under the guise of Saphire and Ruby, like HGSS did.
>>19128077
see above
also, HGSS was a sequel. ORAS has been confirmed for a being just a remake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:11:33 No.19128109 Report

Quoted By: >>19128143 >>19128159

>>19128093

>HGSS was a sequel

wut

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:13:27 No.19128143 Report

Quoted By: >>19128190

>>19128109
I take it (if you even played it) you didn't follow the plot.

Not Daigo

Not Daigo Thu 08 May 2014 22:14:34 No.19128159 Report

Quoted By: >>19128190

>>19128109
HGSS was a sequel to FRLG, as was GSC to RGBY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:16:09 No.19128190 Report

Quoted By: >>19128238

>>19128143
>>19128159

Well no shit, but how is it not "a full remake." There's no reason to think that ORAS will not have similar post-game content as previous remakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:19:01 No.19128238 Report

Quoted By: >>19128275

>>19128190
It's just a glorified graphics update. There will be no change to the plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:21:46 No.19128275 Report

Quoted By: >>19128288

>>19128238

The thread is about changes to the plot that already happened. So what's with the whole "it's not a sequel!" thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:22:28 No.19128288 Report

Quoted By: >>19128579

>>19128275
It's been confirmed as a simple remake. ;_;7]/spoiler]

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:22:58 No.19128294 Report

Quoted By: >>19128362

>>19128093
I wonder how they'll incorporate the plot differences from Emerald

In RS, one team was unambiguously evil and the other was ambiguously good, with the evil team causing most of the problems, having a base in lilycove, and waking their respective legendary in the underwater cave

But then in Emerald both teams were evil and take turns with the various criminal events, with both teams having different bases and different goals

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:27:35 No.19128362 Report

Quoted By: >>19128433

>>19128294
Both teams are evil and fighting against each other. The difference will be which team triumphs over the other and awakens their respective mascot.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:32:06 No.19128433 Report

Quoted By: >>19128463 >>19128527

>>19128362
I guess that works, though I wonder what will happen with rayquaza

I also wonder what'll happen to Juan assuming Steven is the champ

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:34:41 No.19128463 Report

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>>19128433
CAN YOU FUCKING IMAGINE THE CUTSCENES FOR THE FIGHT AND FOR RAYQUAZA APPEARING

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:39:02 No.19128527 Report

Quoted By: >>19128617

>>19128433
Rayquaza goes back on top of Sky Pillar, which gets remodeled (pic related).

Juan gets to run the art museum in Lilycove.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:40:22 No.19128555 Report

Quoted By: >>19128577

>Wallace is Champion in BW2

That automatically means ORAS' League will be like Emerald's and Steven will be in Meteor Falls again

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:41:24 No.19128571 Report

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Steven because HGSS confirmed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:41:56 No.19128577 Report

Quoted By: >>19128597 >>19128617 >>19128657

>>19128555
but BW2 is theoretically in the future from ORAS which means steven could still be champion

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:41:59 No.19128579 Report

Quoted By: >>19128594

>>19128288
Actually they said it'll be a fresh take on R/S so there's a possibility that things will be different in some parts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:43:25 No.19128594 Report

Quoted By: >>19128619

>>19128579
This is your first remake, isn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:43:45 No.19128597 Report

Quoted By: >>19128646

>>19128577
Yeah just like how BW2 is theoretically in the future from Emerald which explains why Wallace is a Champion in BW2

Also, if Wallace was suddenly not Champion, canons would be fucked up and I'm not just talking about the anime.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:44:40 No.19128617 Report

Quoted By: >>19128662

>>19128527
>that image

>>19128577
Steven is almost unanimously the preferred champion though, and remakes are nothing if not fanservice

I like the idea someone posted up there about steven retiring after your initial fight

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:44:45 No.19128619 Report

Quoted By: >>19128642

>>19128594
No I was here for FRLG and HGSS

HGSS had changes to the story and so did FRLG with FRLG having a whole extra portion to the story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:45:56 No.19128642 Report

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>>19128619
They said the same fucking thing for FRLG and HGSS. Muh new adventure and muh new world and muh fresh take are just marketing fluff to attract the kids who never played the originals and the old fans who want remakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:46:01 No.19128645 Report

Quoted By: >>19128689

>>19127450
I would hope that Nintendo would learn that it's incredibly stupid to have a Water type 8th Gym Leader & a Water type Champion (who uses strictly Water types), else since there is another viable option in Steven who has a team of varying types, that fits in with theme of multi-type Champions since D/P/P introduced Cynthia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:46:02 No.19128646 Report

Quoted By: >>19128683 >>19128761

>>19128597
are you an idiot.
if wallace is champion in the future
and BW2 is the future
and if steven used to be champion
and RS is in the past
why can't Steven be the champion. in the games that are set in the past.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:46:11 No.19128650 Report

Quoted By: >>19128665 >>19128690

>>19127450
Why not both? Steven for Omega Ruby and Wallace for Alpha Sapphire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:46:33 No.19128657 Report

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>>19128577
The remakes take on the story of the third version. HGSS did it with Crystal and FRLG kind of did it with Yellow.

Steven will be in Meteor Falls again. I actually prefer this because I'm guessing no one remembers Steven teaming up with you in Double Battles against Team Magma.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:47:02 No.19128662 Report

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>>19128617
I want to fight steven at the pokemon league
but I want to fight steven when he has level 70's in meteor falls too.
make wallace champion after you win the first time and then steve can be at meteor falls.
pls GF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:47:10 No.19128665 Report

Quoted By: >>19128787

>>19128650
It's Steven, not Wallace. HGSS fucking confirmed it already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:47:58 No.19128683 Report

Quoted By: >>19128694 >>19128731

>>19128646
Juan would be completely devoid then and no one would have never heard of him by the time BW2 happens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:48:13 No.19128689 Report

Quoted By:

>>19128645
>Nintendo
Complain to Game Freak instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:48:14 No.19128690 Report

Quoted By:

>>19128650
Because the combination of Juan/Wallace doesn't make sense, two Water-type specialist and a Champion with a purely Water-type team is stupid. If anything let Steven be Champ in both with Wallace as gl in AS & Juan as gl in OR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:48:20 No.19128694 Report

Quoted By:

>>19128683
good

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:48:42 No.19128705 Report

Quoted By: >>19128739

>>19127450
Steven of course, I hope they don't put in Wallace. The ''final'' battle against Steven is too epic. Wallace is a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:50:22 No.19128731 Report

Quoted By: >>19128781 >>19128782

>>19128683
Not true, it is stated that Juan was the Sootopolis Gym Leader before Wallace, Wallace, Juan's protege took over after Juan retired. Once Wallace got the promotion to Champion then Juan took back his duties as gym leader. Juan is still a gym leader in-canon, you just never personally fight him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:50:42 No.19128739 Report

Quoted By:

>>19128705
Don't forget the remix STEVEN STONE in the RS OST.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:51:59 No.19128761 Report

Quoted By: >>19129111

>>19128646
Because Juan

Juan is a Gym Leader in Emerald. Emerald is as of right now the canon version. Now picture this: Emerald never happened and BW2 suddenly has this random ass Gym Leader in the Hoenn group and for some reason Wallace is the Champion.

Same goes for if Juan is a Gym Leader but Steven is the Champion. Fast forward to BW2 and you suddenly have Wallace and if Emerald never happened and Juan is the Sootopolis Gym LEader, who the fuck is Wallace?

If Steven is the Champion the timeline wouldn't be fucked up but too much unnecessary explanation would have to be made to explain who Juan is, how Wallace became Champion, ect. ect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:53:12 No.19128781 Report

Quoted By: >>19129079

>>19128731
But do you remember the game that Juan was stated to previously be Gym Leader in?

That's right anon, it's Emerald. And if Emerald is made non-canon with Steven being Champion, the whole Juan thing wouldn't even exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:53:15 No.19128782 Report

Quoted By: >>19128812 >>19128815 >>19129031

>>19128731
>beat Wallace as 8th gym leader
>beat Steve as champion in the first run
>Wallace becomes new champion because reasons
>8th gym rematch becomes Juan
>Steve hangs out in meteor falls

Is this acceptable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:53:24 No.19128787 Report

Quoted By: >>19128803

>>19128665
What do you mean, confirmed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:54:48 No.19128803 Report

Quoted By: >>19128830 >>19128958 >>19128966

>>19128787
When Steven appears in HGSS, he's presented as the Hoenn Champion. Since RGBY = FRLG = RSE = ORAS and GSC = HGSS = DPPt, and the fact that HGSS occurs 3 years after FRLG thus 3 years after RSE/ORAS, then Steven is the Champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:55:11 No.19128812 Report

Quoted By: >>19128923 >>19129049

>>19128782
That's so unnecessary. Just have Steven be a roaming Champion and Wallace being the main Champion like Emerald.

I don't get why people prefer Steven as Champion, he was weaker as Champion than his superior Meteor Falls self and seeing how HGSS proved that GameFreak wont fuck with the level scaling, Champion Steven will be shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:55:21 No.19128815 Report

Quoted By: >>19128866

>>19128782
That would be acceptable, especially if you can rebattle Steven or team up with him like you could with Riley on Iron Island.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:56:24 No.19128830 Report

Quoted By: >>19128845

>>19128803
>then Steven is the Champion.
Makes sense. Fingers crossed that they follow this timeline. I'd really like to have Steven as champ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:57:27 No.19128845 Report

Quoted By: >>19128878

>>19128830
The timeline is official.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:58:37 No.19128866 Report

Quoted By:

>>19128815
>fight Steven in meteor falls first time
>he disappears
>elite 4 + champ gets stronger
>beat them
>Steven back in meteor falls even stronker this time

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 22:59:25 No.19128878 Report

Quoted By:

>>19128845
>The timeline is official.
Right, but for all we know, they could decide to tweak it so that Wallace retires three years later or some stupid shit.

Just hoping they don't, is all. Because Wallace was Champ in Emerald.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:01:10 No.19128908 Report

Quoted By: >>19128930

I don't want Steven to be Champ. Steven's Champion team was so shit compared to his final boss team.

Plus, Juan is fabulous and I don't want him to be cut out.

Why can't we have all three like Emerald? fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:02:52 No.19128923 Report

Quoted By: >>19128969 >>19128981

>>19128812
Because steven was still a more interesting and difficult champion than wallace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:03:14 No.19128930 Report

Quoted By: >>19128947

>>19128908
He's going to be Champ. HGSS supports it. RS OST supports it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:03:33 No.19128934 Report

Quoted By:

>Steven is Champ
>Juan is cut out of ORAS

I don't know how I'll feel /vp/. Juan is my favorite Gym Leader.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:04:33 No.19128947 Report

Quoted By: >>19128958

>>19128930
How does HGSS support it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:05:14 No.19128958 Report

Quoted By:

>>19128947
See >>19128803.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:06:08 No.19128966 Report

Quoted By: >>19129006

>>19128803
Wasn't that a part of the Enigma event?

What's the possibility of it being retconned? I don't know why GameFreak would have Steven become Champ and have Wallace become Gym Leader and then not explain how Juan and Wallace becoming Champ comes into play.

Seems retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:06:17 No.19128969 Report

Quoted By: >>19129364

>>19128923
>difficult
>half his team weak to fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:07:20 No.19128981 Report

Quoted By:

>>19128923
>difficult champion than Wallace

That's untrue and you know it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:08:35 No.19129006 Report

Quoted By: >>19129019

>>19128966
>Wasn't that a part of the Enigma event?
No, Steven appears right after you collect the Copycat's Clefairy doll at the Pokémon Fan Club in Vermilion City.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:09:31 No.19129019 Report

Quoted By:

>>19129006
and again at silph co. after you get your gen 1 starter from oak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:09:51 No.19129023 Report

Quoted By:

Gen III introduced double battles, right? What if they're both champions and it's a double battle. Steven has Metagross, Skarmory, and Aggron while Wallave has Milotic, Whiscash, and Ludicolo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:10:32 No.19129031 Report

Quoted By: >>19129066

>>19128782
That's actually perfect and I hope it happens. Wallace could even explain that after Steven lost to you, the player, he decided to go away and do some training, so Wallace took over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:11:45 No.19129049 Report

Quoted By:

>>19128812
I personally just don't like Juan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:13:13 No.19129066 Report

Quoted By:

>>19129031
>perfect

Wrong because in HGSS Steven is still Champion

They have to say something in ORAS, if Wallace is Champion, along the lines of

"Oh I am currently off duty as Champion and instead my friend Wallace has taken my place. I still do Championship battles from time to time but I mostly spend my free time looking for stones. I will even climb waterfalls for stones.."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:14:13 No.19129079 Report

Quoted By: >>19129101

>>19128781
Oh because Wallace can't add Juan to his pre/post battle dialogue...

>"I've learned everything I can from my mentor and former Sootopolis Gym Leader Juan. It is time to make him proud, let's battle!"
or
> "The former gym leader and my mentor Juan would be so disappointed at my loss."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:16:07 No.19129101 Report

Quoted By: >>19129209

>>19129079
We still wouldn't have ever met Juan so again, no one will know who he is or what he looks like besides "Wallace's former mentor"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:17:33 No.19129111 Report

Quoted By: >>19129123

>>19128761
Was the post introduction battle of the PWT ever confirmed as canon? I feel like it was more fan service than anything. The initial battle with Cheren & Clay walking you in, yes, but everything else is sketchy as official canon imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:18:34 No.19129123 Report

Quoted By: >>19129241

>>19129111
If it's in the fucking game, it's canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:25:48 No.19129209 Report

Quoted By:

>>19129101
And...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:27:49 No.19129241 Report

Quoted By:

>>19129123
So are conflicting story lines between opposite versions, both can't be canon. Therefore, no, not EVERYTHING included in the games is canon, ntm PWT is optional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:37:05 No.19129364 Report

Quoted By:

>>19128969
>difficult
>half his team is wak to electric & grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:40:25 No.19129414 Report

Quoted By: >>19129457

Steven needs to be off saving the world and fighting crime, like Lance and Cynthia.
Wallace needs to get his ass back to his gym.
I'd say Ruby or Sapphire should be Champ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 May 2014 23:43:51 No.19129457 Report

Quoted By:

>>19129414
Their names are Brendan & May, this is not the manga.

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