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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:22:13 No.19133810 View View Reply Original Report

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>mixed attacker
>with shit defenses
>has no speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:26:44 No.19133839 Report

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>>19133810
Camerupt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:27:41 No.19133845 Report

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Cacturne

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:28:59 No.19133873 Report

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>fast, with good bulk
>shit support movepool

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:30:54 No.19133894 Report

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>>19133845
this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:35:08 No.19133932 Report

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Who is Octillery?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:36:47 No.19133950 Report

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>>19133932
>He never tried running AV Octillery

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:39:59 No.19133974 Report

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>>19133950
>He tried running AV Octillery

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:43:16 No.19133998 Report

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>>19133974
Why? He did fine in my team...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:43:32 No.19134000 Report

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half of gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:45:35 No.19134015 Report

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>>19133810
So basically bad at everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:45:36 No.19134016 Report

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>what is Trick Room

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:51:05 No.19134047 Report

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Emboar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:52:43 No.19134064 Report

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>>19134015
>Cacture used Sucker Punch!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:53:45 No.19134071 Report

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>>19134064
*Cacturne

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 05:56:06 No.19134085 Report

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>>19134064
This, I thought Fatima was going to bite it in her first battle.

I was wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 06:11:20 No.19134217 Report

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>Great wall stats
>Shit walling typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 06:12:06 No.19134224 Report

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>>19134217
What is Avalugg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 06:19:41 No.19134291 Report

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>>19133810
heatmor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 06:31:46 No.19134395 Report

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>>19133998
Are you using it on a cart? Is its ability Moody?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 06:34:09 No.19134417 Report

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I've been thinking of running Ass Vest Sawsbuck or Gogoat. Has anyone tried this?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 06:34:59 No.19134425 Report

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>good movepool
>shit stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 06:46:12 No.19134537 Report

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>>19133810
>Octillery
what is trickroom

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 06:46:27 No.19134540 Report

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Seviper.
It needs an evo.
At least let it be poison/dark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 06:46:54 No.19134545 Report

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>>19134425
>good movepool
>it gets most of the useful moves through an event

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 06:50:41 No.19134575 Report

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>>19134545
Or DW.
Seriously, normal Spinda is practically unusable.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 07:56:35 No.19135083 Report

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>>19133810
>pokemon with a high attack and special defense
>shit defense

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 07:58:19 No.19135101 Report

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>>19135083
Heracross?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 07:59:05 No.19135107 Report

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>>19135083
Grumping

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 07:59:09 No.19135108 Report

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>every stat is great except for one offensive stat

>>19135083
gyarados?
snorlax?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:00:03 No.19135118 Report

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>>19135083
Most Fighting types, Gallade in particular and honoruable mentions to Snorlax, Muk and Flareon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:00:56 No.19135123 Report

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>>19135083
flareon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:02:46 No.19135139 Report

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>>19135107
Oh my bad I read "sp:Atk" instead of attack

Also Muk

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:03:05 No.19135142 Report

Quoted By: >>19135157 >>19135206 >>19136227

>the entire premise of the pokemon, down to its abilities and movepool, was for it to be used in double battles
>completely useless in singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:04:41 No.19135157 Report

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>>19135142
>gets outclassed in doubles anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:04:43 No.19135158 Report

Quoted By: >>19135177

>Pikachu Clone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:06:38 No.19135174 Report

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>>19135108
togekiss and chandelure popped into my head first

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:07:21 No.19135177 Report

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>>19135158

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:08:25 No.19135186 Report

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>only useful on a trick room team in doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:11:10 No.19135199 Report

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>>19135157
Poor Cherrim

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:11:45 No.19135203 Report

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>>19133810
Emboar, pretty much

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:12:24 No.19135206 Report

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>>19135142
i always counted this guy as one of these pokes. makes sense competitively because of its abilities making it's special movepool viable. plus, makes sense for gears to team up with more gears in order to make a machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:25:41 No.19135311 Report

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>>19133998
IS there a pokemon that has high hp/defenses and speed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:27:39 No.19135328 Report

Quoted By: >>19135428 >>19138361 >>19138463 >>19138664

Are there any Pokemon with perfectly balanced stats,abilties,typing and moveset?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:28:34 No.19135338 Report

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>>19135311
serperior and lugia come to mind

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:31:02 No.19135352 Report

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>>19135338
>Serperior
>Perfect Ability

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:33:50 No.19135366 Report

Quoted By: >>19136746

>>19135352
>chandelure
>emboar
>feraligatr
>unreleased perfect abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:34:00 No.19135368 Report

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>>19135311

Define "high"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:35:49 No.19135377 Report

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>Charizard Y
>Oh fuck here comes the Solarbeam
>Uses Swords Dance

WHAT THE LITERAL FUCK?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:40:18 No.19135408 Report

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>heracross
>favorite pokemon since I was a kid
>finally gets mega
>ugly as fuck
>less speed
>unusable thanks to Mpinsir and smogonbird

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:42:20 No.19135414 Report

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>>19133810
>mixed attacker w/ slightly higher sp. atk.
>average def.
>great speed
God, I love this guy. 10/10 favorite poke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:44:05 No.19135420 Report

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>>19135174
>145 base SpA
>not great

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:45:16 No.19135428 Report

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>>19135328
Mew

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:47:09 No.19135439 Report

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>>19133810
what is elektross

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 08:52:55 No.19135475 Report

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>>19133810

Victreebel

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 09:03:56 No.19135525 Report

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>>19135428
>Physic
>Good typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 09:13:33 No.19135565 Report

Quoted By: >>19135602

>>19135525
>Physic
>not a good type

let me guess, you use mental types

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 09:19:57 No.19135602 Report

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>>19135565
*Psychic sorry

Also, le knock off feic :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 09:22:26 No.19135617 Report

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>>19135602
psychic types are bad in this gen. was just being a dick about your type

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 09:23:29 No.19135627 Report

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>>19135617
*typo how fucking ironic

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 09:26:50 No.19135640 Report

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why

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 09:33:58 No.19135671 Report

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>>19135640
I feel your pain

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:07:35 No.19136170 Report

Quoted By: >>19136327 >>19136558

>>19135671
>8x fire damage

Oh why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:10:41 No.19136186 Report

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Who cares about competitive battling?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:21:07 No.19136227 Report

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>>19135142
>>19135157
>People ask /vp/ for VGC help
>Repliers who don't play doubles legitimately believe Friend Guard, Symbiosis etc. are good in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:22:45 No.19136232 Report

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>>19133810
Fucking Emboar

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:24:11 No.19136239 Report

Quoted By: >>19137098

>Bulky as fuck
>Mediocre offensive stats
>No recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:29:06 No.19136270 Report

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>>19135083
Half of physical mons. Nothing out of ordinary.

Hell, even TTar fits. Accounting for Sandstorm, he has similar SDef to Lugia or Cresselia.

Camerupt

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Camerupt Fri 09 May 2014 11:31:47 No.19136281 Report

Quoted By: >>19136314 >>19136317

>>19133810
H-hi.

Camerupt

Camerupt Fri 09 May 2014 11:36:42 No.19136314 Report

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>>19136281
Camerupt base stats: 70/100/70/105/75/40
Infernape base stats: 76/104/71/104/71/108

Just why, gamefreak...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:36:58 No.19136317 Report

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>>19136281
You'll be good some day, bro ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:38:42 No.19136327 Report

Quoted By: >>19136356

>>19136170
it's "only" 5x

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:43:04 No.19136356 Report

Quoted By: >>19136361 >>19136558

>>19136327
No, it's 8x.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:44:57 No.19136361 Report

Quoted By: >>19136376

>>19136356
No, it's 5x, do you even Dry Skin?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:45:19 No.19136363 Report

Quoted By: >>19136369 >>19136379

>>19136314
>only 460 BST
This is unacceptable, bump it to at least 500
90/100/80/105/95/40

Camerupt

Camerupt Fri 09 May 2014 11:46:29 No.19136369 Report

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>>19136363
God bless you, wise man... ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:47:55 No.19136376 Report

Quoted By: >>19136397

>>19136361
Oh my. I was wrong for years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:48:34 No.19136379 Report

Quoted By: >>19136390

>>19136363
That won't make it any good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:49:09 No.19136382 Report

Quoted By: >>19137854

>>19136314
>74 BST difference
>almost everything is in speed
Fuck you GF, I was so hyped when I got Camerupt in Ruby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:51:07 No.19136390 Report

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>>19136379
It'll make it a little better though, I wasn't going to throw some stats into its speed because why would a camel with volcanos on its back go sanic fast? Bulk would fit it a lot better

Camerupt

Camerupt Fri 09 May 2014 11:52:26 No.19136395 Report

Quoted By: >>19136415

Can I have Gale Magma, please?
Priority specs eruption, just WOW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:52:45 No.19136397 Report

Quoted By: >>19136672

>>19136376
I thought Rock was 0.5x on Rock, I realized I was wrong only in Y, hitting an Aurorus for SE damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 11:56:18 No.19136415 Report

Quoted By: >>19136507 >>19136527

>>19136395
Lets just buff Solid Rock so water moves only do x2 damage and ground goes neutral

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:12:14 No.19136507 Report

Quoted By: >>19136587

>>19136415
Groudon would no longer fear Kyogre.

Camerupt

Camerupt Fri 09 May 2014 12:15:54 No.19136527 Report

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>>19136415
It isn't like it can take a hit anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:16:35 No.19136532 Report

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>>19134417
Gogoat has good defenses and sawsbuck has decent speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:21:53 No.19136558 Report

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>>19136170
>>19136356
The only 5x weakness in the game, and a Pokemon that gets every powder move in the game except the one LITERALLY NAMED "POWDER" THAT PROTECTS YOU FROM FIRE TYPE ATTACKS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:23:24 No.19136564 Report

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>>19136314
Camerupt also gets solid rock and eruption, so it's not all bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:26:31 No.19136579 Report

Quoted By:

>>19135083
Gallade

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:28:05 No.19136587 Report

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>>19136507
Dude, anon just meant that ground would be neutral to Camerupt thanks to the buffed solid rock, turning it from x2 to x1

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:28:37 No.19136590 Report

Quoted By: >>19136606 >>19136627

>>19135311
Gliscor, its so annoying how fucking fast it is for something that damn bulky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:31:28 No.19136606 Report

Quoted By: >>19136636

>>19136590
Don't forget the good attack stat, one of the best abilities in the game, and access to reliable healing, boosting, and baton pass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:31:45 No.19136608 Report

Quoted By: >>19136634 >>19136643

>>19136270
You do realize Tyranitar has 110 base def, that is not even close to being bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:33:54 No.19136620 Report

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>>19135414
>slightly higher sp. atk.

Wut, it has 104 in both attacking stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:35:44 No.19136627 Report

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>>19136590
>tfw it can toxic stall anything slower that doesn't have a steel or poison typing or a means of status healing as long as it has a substitute up
>tfw it can EQ poison and steels
>tfw it outspeeds most viable water and ice types
>tfw it was the star of my first competitive x y team despite having both Blaziken and mega gengar.

It's hilarious to watch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:36:01 No.19136634 Report

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>>19136608
I know but it is significantly lower than his Atk or SS SDef so he fits as well. You can also go further and consider the fact that his only 4x weakness (to popular type) is mainly physical one while his immunity is mainly special one. Ttar is very powerful, simply bulky physically and a fucking monster on special side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:36:30 No.19136636 Report

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>>19136606
Gliscor is pretty much the perfect Pokemon at what it does.

Also

>extremely wide movepool for many different and unpredictable sets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:37:54 No.19136643 Report

Quoted By: >>19138402

>>19136608
Physical SE hits OHKO or 2HKO him. You need boosting item to have a chance of 2HKO'ing him with special attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:42:11 No.19136661 Report

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>>19133810
You just described a good chunk of hoehn mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:45:15 No.19136672 Report

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>>19136397
I used to think ice was good against rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:47:30 No.19136682 Report

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this is only because of how horribly speed and damage input is dealt with that game, if things could survive more than 2 hits being low speed wouldn't be such a deal if you have the firepower behind it.
Same reason why def and spe def are virtually useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 12:55:30 No.19136718 Report

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Honchkrow

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 13:02:04 No.19136746 Report

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>>19135366
Friendly reminder that Scott at the Battle Frontier will give you HA Totodile after you finish the hoenn dex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 13:21:09 No.19136870 Report

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>>19135083
Shitmonlee

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 13:40:05 No.19136999 Report

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Eelektross

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 13:54:22 No.19137098 Report

Quoted By: >>19138289

>>19136239
goodra

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 14:31:54 No.19137381 Report

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Are we talking about Carnivine or Genesect?

Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5

Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Fri 09 May 2014 14:35:41 No.19137415 Report

Quoted By: >>19138884

Good against specialized walls
Good against set-uppers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 15:16:59 No.19137854 Report

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>>19136382
>tfw used to shit on Camerupt until my Emerald Nuzlocke
Eruption murdering Elite Four ghosts left and right
Based Firesis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 15:50:46 No.19138289 Report

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>>19137098
>hydration + rest

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 15:56:54 No.19138361 Report

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>>19135328
Manaphy.
Arceus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 16:00:57 No.19138402 Report

Quoted By: >>19138711

>>19136643
Well, yeah, that's Super-Effective hits. It still has more Physical bulk than Gliscor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 16:08:49 No.19138463 Report

Quoted By: >>19138499

>>19135328
Gliscor, scroll up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 16:11:43 No.19138499 Report

Quoted By: >>19138591

>>19138463
>shit Special Attack
I think that anon was asking for Pokemon that are good at literally everything, like Arceus and Manaphy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 16:19:55 No.19138591 Report

Quoted By: >>19138653

>>19138499
Manaphy isn't good at everything, what the fuck are you talking about, have you seen it's movepool?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 16:25:26 No.19138653 Report

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>>19138591
>Normal + Water has surprisingly decent coverage
>U-Turn
>Knock Off
It could run a shitty surprise CB set... r-right?
Yeah, so the only thing that actually works is Arceus, sorry. BRB committing sudoku, it is the only way to erase my shame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 16:26:22 No.19138664 Report

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>>19135328
Jirachi.
Dragons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 16:29:30 No.19138711 Report

Quoted By: >>19138723

>>19138402
Well, almost every physical attacker has something which is SE vs Ttar. Ground, Fighting, Water, Steel, Grass... Actually, is there any physical attacker who doesn't fit the criteria? I mean something with 3-4 attacking moves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 16:30:50 No.19138723 Report

Quoted By: >>19138813

>>19138711
Nigga there's barely a Pokemon that runs attacking moves that doesn't fit the criteria.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 16:38:02 No.19138813 Report

Quoted By: >>19138851

>>19138723
Poor Ttar. I still love him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 16:41:18 No.19138851 Report

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>>19138813
I don't even mind. Being weak to everything is literally the only thing keeping it from being broken as fuck.
>Mega Tyranitar's BST under Sand is higher than anything not named Mega Mewtwo X or Y
>Mega Tyranitar would have effective base defenses of 100/94/120 after using Shell Smash
Jesus Tittyfucking Christ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 16:44:20 No.19138884 Report

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>>19137415
Whimsicott you fucking faggot

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