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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 17:53:07 No.19139649 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19141557 >>19142235 >>19142861

>Game Freak had 85 employees in April 2013
>XY released in October 2013
>only 73 employees in April 2014
>HOENN CONFIRMED a month later
>ORAS will be released in November 2014

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 20:40:09 No.19141557 Report

Quoted By: >>19141699

>>19139649
Okay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 20:50:52 No.19141699 Report

Quoted By: >>19142731 >>19142775

>>19141557
>bumping your own thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 21:27:57 No.19142235 Report

Quoted By: >>19142620 >>19143473

>>19139649
So people got fired after XY's release? Can't say I'm not suprised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 21:54:18 No.19142620 Report

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>>19142235
It's more like they hired temporary staff and with X&Y 'finished' they paid them and let them go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 21:56:33 No.19142659 Report

Quoted By: >>19142722

This means that X/Y was such a massive pile of shit that they rushed Hurrn confirned so they wouldn't lose anymore fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:01:08 No.19142722 Report

Quoted By: >>19142740 >>19142755

>>19142659
Aren't X&Y the highest selling pair, post 90's - 00's pokéfad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:01:59 No.19142731 Report

Quoted By: >>19146190

>>19141699
OP here. I didn't bump the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:02:40 No.19142740 Report

Quoted By: >>19142766 >>19142770 >>19144988

>>19142722
lowest actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:03:34 No.19142755 Report

Quoted By:

>>19142722

Doesnt mean they arent massive piles of shit

the 3d draws in, but fails to deliver

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:03:59 No.19142766 Report

Quoted By: >>19142799 >>19145974

>>19142740
How many did they sell compared to the other pairs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:04:11 No.19142770 Report

Quoted By: >>19142780 >>19142809

>>19142740
The lowest core series game ever was Crystal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:04:30 No.19142775 Report

Quoted By:

>>19141699
nice doduo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:05:13 No.19142780 Report

Quoted By:

>>19142770
lowest-selling*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:06:24 No.19142799 Report

Quoted By: >>19142834 >>19142975 >>19143524

>>19142766
They're at 12 million right now

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/07/pokemon-x-and-y-sales-pass-12-million-mark

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:07:00 No.19142809 Report

Quoted By: >>19142815

>>19142770
Pokémon Rumble Blast

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:07:35 No.19142815 Report

Quoted By: >>19143907

>>19142809
I said core series game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:08:47 No.19142834 Report

Quoted By: >>19142858 >>19142939

>>19142799
Question, is this 12 million shipped or sold?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:10:22 No.19142858 Report

Quoted By: >>19142939

>>19142834
Gamefreak said 12 million, so im assuming thats the amount shipped. If it were the combined sales of amazon, gamestop and other retailers, the article would have stated so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:10:30 No.19142861 Report

Quoted By: >>19142907

>>19139649
1. Source
2. So what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:12:40 No.19142907 Report

Quoted By: >>19142944 >>19142966 >>19143471 >>19144643

>>19142861
>Source
Game Freak's website
>So what?
Why would they fire staff when they remakes are important and highly expected games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:14:42 No.19142939 Report

Quoted By: >>19143961

>>19142834
>>19142858
>Pokemon X and Pokemon Y have collectively sold over 12 million copies on 3DS, it's been announced.
>sold

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:14:49 No.19142944 Report

Quoted By: >>19142962 >>19143897

>>19142907
because remakes dont require innovation? its the same game they made 12 years ago, they have to just rebuild it with the X/Y engine and thats that. They dont need to do anything different aside form adding new features

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:16:02 No.19142962 Report

Quoted By:

>>19142944
I don't think you know what innovation means.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:16:31 No.19142966 Report

Quoted By: >>19143417

>>19142907
Because, no game GF works on uses the entirety of their staff. Just because people were fired doesn't mean they were fired from the staff working on ORAS.

Also, oras is probably already finished, or near completion, so the shouldn't need that many people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:17:18 No.19142975 Report

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>>19142799
Actually at this point in time that's pretty impressive.
If it keeps up like this they might actually be some of the highest selling games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:46:47 No.19143417 Report

Quoted By: >>19143569 >>19143586 >>19143605

>>19142966
What are they doing for the next 6 months then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:49:31 No.19143471 Report

Quoted By:

>>19142907
because remakes like that don't require a full reprograming like XY did, they can reuse the assets and middleware.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:49:44 No.19143473 Report

Quoted By:

>>19142235
Most likely that they hired a bunch of people to help model all the pokemon in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:52:13 No.19143524 Report

Quoted By: >>19143552

>>19142799
Not too bad considering the mediocre sales of the 3DS compared to Nintendo's past handhelds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:54:28 No.19143552 Report

Quoted By: >>19143625

>>19143524
3DS sales are going to skyrocket pretty soon considering Smash 4 is coming out for it sometime in the summer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:55:20 No.19143569 Report

Quoted By: >>19143617 >>19143794

>>19143417
Marketing, bug fixes, touch-ups, I'd assume.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:56:17 No.19143586 Report

Quoted By: >>19143794

>>19143417

Finishing, and marketing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:57:27 No.19143605 Report

Quoted By:

>>19143417
probably polish and bug fixing, i imagine the final game has to go by Nintendo and get approved by them. then manufacturing and shipping the physical games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:58:03 No.19143617 Report

Quoted By:

>>19143569
I see. I guess it does take time for the marketing, that's why nobody just releases games immediately after they finish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 22:58:31 No.19143625 Report

Quoted By: >>19143650

>>19143552
3DS sales only skyrocketed in the West in 2013 because of the 2DS and Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:00:26 No.19143650 Report

Quoted By: >>19143716

>>19143625
Mostly just pokemon not so much the 2DS.
Also Smash is coming out on 3DS before Wii U you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:03:59 No.19143698 Report

Quoted By:

>/vp/ trying to grasp business trends
Just stop, god this is painful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:05:05 No.19143716 Report

Quoted By:

>>19143650
The 2DS has contributed as well. After all, Ninty didn't release it in Japan since the 3DS is selling well there.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:10:04 No.19143794 Report

Quoted By: >>19143812

>>19143569
>>19143586
I hope they polish that shit right. XY was a massive pile of shit because it lacked touch-ups and such.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:11:00 No.19143812 Report

Quoted By: >>19143846 >>19143851

>>19143794
XY were developed by team A, ORAS are being developed by team B like HGSS and B2W2 were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:12:57 No.19143846 Report

Quoted By: >>19143860

>>19143812
I've been hearing this a lot. How do you know which team is working on it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:13:19 No.19143851 Report

Quoted By:

>>19143812
>There are two different development teams on GF and I didn't know that
>The team developing this one is the same who developed HG/SS and BW2 (which are my favorite of Gen IV and V)

ORAS confirmed for best pokémon game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:13:52 No.19143860 Report

Quoted By: >>19143872

>>19143846
Credits brah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:14:50 No.19143872 Report

Quoted By: >>19143879 >>19144419

>>19143860
Where are the credits for ORAS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:15:24 No.19143879 Report

Quoted By: >>19144419

>>19143872
There aren't but muh patterns are right here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:16:57 No.19143897 Report

Quoted By: >>19143905

>>19142944
I agree with you anon, you guys forget that gamefreak have two teams, A and B. ORAS was probably getting made by team B since the middle of last year

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:17:52 No.19143905 Report

Quoted By: >>19143935 >>19143990

>>19143897
>last year
More like since B2W2 finished, much like HGSS were in development since DP finished despite Pt getting released in between.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:17:58 No.19143907 Report

Quoted By:

>>19142815
You typed it.

Sorry, I'm autistic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:18:57 No.19143921 Report

Quoted By: >>19143934 >>19143939 >>19143967 >>19144113

So people now openly admit X/Y were bad games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:18:59 No.19143922 Report

Quoted By:

No sales statistics include the digital purchases, for some retarded reason, so, any statistic is worthless. But most statistics are and are usually just made up. 84% of all people know that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:20:01 No.19143934 Report

Quoted By: >>19144009

>>19143921
Where were you on launch day?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:20:03 No.19143935 Report

Quoted By: >>19143969

>>19143905
That's good,I hope the games share as little as possible with XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:20:18 No.19143939 Report

Quoted By:

>>19143921
I don't. I still enjoyed them. ORAS will most certainly be better though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:21:44 No.19143961 Report

Quoted By:

>>19142939
>sales
>fans

Pick one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:22:05 No.19143967 Report

Quoted By: >>19144009

>>19143921
opinions LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:22:12 No.19143969 Report

Quoted By: >>19143982 >>19144050

>>19143935
Fun fact: not even Platinum Lucas and Dawn are present in the internal data of HeartGold and SoulSilver, only Diamond and Pearl Lucas and Dawn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:23:39 No.19143982 Report

Quoted By: >>19144011

>>19143969
HGSS were built off of Platinum. Platinum was built off of Diamond. HGSS's trainer images replaced Platinum's. This is why Diamond's images are still in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:24:03 No.19143990 Report

Quoted By:

>>19143905
Yeah probably in 2012 then. It makes sense because remakes are actually harder to do. I mean they would have to redesign the routes without fucking them up. Add a new feel without destroying the region. Shit would be hard. Have you guys seen the post production interview of HGSS where they talked about how they used to debate how each town had to look. Think of it now, the houses wont all look the same and there is probably going to be a new type of luminous city picked from one of the big three in hoenn.
Pls be sootpolis

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:25:37 No.19144009 Report

Quoted By:

>>19143934
I remember only minor nagging about postgame from speedrunners,but most of the board went apeshit praising games.

>>19143967
Stop shitposting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:25:53 No.19144011 Report

Quoted By: >>19144257 >>19144317

>>19143982
>HGSS were built off of Platinum.
No, they were built off of Diamond and Pearl since they were already in development before Platinum. Next thing you're going to tell me that Emerald is built off of FireRed and LeafGreen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:29:24 No.19144050 Report

Quoted By: >>19144056

>>19143969
why do you lie

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:29:50 No.19144056 Report

Quoted By: >>19144105

>>19144050
>lie
I'm not lying, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:32:29 No.19144105 Report

Quoted By: >>19144114

>>19144056
but they are

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:33:13 No.19144113 Report

Quoted By:

>>19143921
I've always thought they could've been better

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:33:16 No.19144114 Report

Quoted By: >>19144382

>>19144105
Read the post again until the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:35:17 No.19144153 Report

Quoted By: >>19144187 >>19144204 >>19144247

XY had like three hundred miscellaneous employees from throughout Nintendo helping Game Freak due to their retardation with 3D models, likely those three hundred are still helping with ORAS, now with Game Freak having gotten a crash course on how to work with the things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:37:40 No.19144187 Report

Quoted By:

>>19144153
>their retardation with 3D models
b8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:39:21 No.19144204 Report

Quoted By:

>>19144153
U wot, besides the frame drops the 3d modelling was/is fantastic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:43:25 No.19144247 Report

Quoted By: >>19144271

>>19144153
>retardation with 3D models
>GF created models for both Harmoknight and 3D pokedex/pro before XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:44:01 No.19144257 Report

Quoted By: >>19144283

>>19144011
it was explicitly stated that HGSS uses platinums game engine

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:45:18 No.19144271 Report

Quoted By:

>>19144247
>Pokédex 3D Pro
>Game Freak
Pick one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:46:30 No.19144283 Report

Quoted By: >>19144345

>>19144257
Source it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:49:32 No.19144317 Report

Quoted By: >>19144330

>>19144011
HGSS went into development after Platinum along with BW1, BW2 went into development along with XY.

ORAS may have gone into development after BW2 was finished, but I remember reading the HGSS/BW2 team helped out on XY a little once they finished BW2. Likely they got all the planning done before XY was finished and got to work on it to some extent once they had the Gen 6 engine at a point the core engine was pretty much ready, but development only went into full swing when XY was finished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:50:32 No.19144330 Report

Quoted By: >>19144390

>>19144317
>HGSS went into development after Platinum
Right, because Game Freak would only take a year to remake Gold and Silver.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:51:47 No.19144345 Report

Quoted By: >>19144351 >>19144401

>>19144283
wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokémon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver

>Game Engline: Heavily modified Pokémon Platinum engine

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:52:26 No.19144351 Report

Quoted By: >>19144405

>>19144345
>Wikipedo
>source
Not if it doesn't cite its sources.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:55:27 No.19144382 Report

Quoted By: >>19144410

>>19144114
HGSS contains the sprite for both DP and Pt Lucas and dawn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:55:48 No.19144390 Report

Quoted By:

>>19144330
Considering they had been planning their ideas for it ever since FRLG, and that they already had a working engine and region layout and all to work with, yes.

BW1 only took two years to make, and that was a new engine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:56:42 No.19144401 Report

Quoted By: >>19144467

>>19144345
>Heavily modified
its the same fucking engine. since DP

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:57:20 No.19144405 Report

Quoted By: >>19144414

>>19144351
The Point is HGSS Does not use DP's game engine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:57:40 No.19144410 Report

Quoted By: >>19144427

>>19144382
But it doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:58:06 No.19144414 Report

Quoted By: >>19144467

>>19144405
all 4th gen game use the same fucking engine faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:58:34 No.19144419 Report

Quoted By: >>19144466

>>19143879
>>19143872
It's not muh patterns, the whole point of having two teams is that they can work on games simultaneously, if the same team could produce two consecutive titles with this rapidity they wouldn't have two teams in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:58:58 No.19144427 Report

Quoted By: >>19144432

>>19144410
It does. Link the games up and see for yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 May 2014 23:59:45 No.19144432 Report

Quoted By: >>19144444 >>19144619

>>19144427
Then soneone please correct TCRF's article.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:00:47 No.19144444 Report

Quoted By: >>19144457

>>19144432
someone*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:01:38 No.19144457 Report

Quoted By:

>>19144444
You heard the man, someone correct that shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:02:09 No.19144466 Report

Quoted By: >>19144494

>>19144419
So since Team A made X and Y, Team B must be making ORAS because it's already being released in November.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:02:16 No.19144467 Report

Quoted By: >>19144484 >>19144496 >>19144523 >>19144532 >>19144584

>>19144414
>>19144401
>Implying Shaymin and Rotom Formes exist in DP
>Same engine

kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:03:31 No.19144484 Report

Quoted By:

>>19144467
>not knowing what engine means
Fucking mongoloid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:04:19 No.19144494 Report

Quoted By:

>>19144466
Right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:04:28 No.19144496 Report

Quoted By:

>>19144467
>implying an engine has anything to do with sprites
You're a fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:06:10 No.19144523 Report

Quoted By:

>>19144467
>>Implying Shaymin and Rotom Formes exist in DP
... Wow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:06:45 No.19144532 Report

Quoted By:

>>19144467
It's all the same base. Think of it this way, DP is 1.0, Platinum is 2.0, HGSS is 3.0.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:10:42 No.19144584 Report

Quoted By:

>>19144467
I don't think you know what a game engine is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:13:45 No.19144619 Report

Quoted By: >>19144675

>>19144432
It's because the Platinum sprites are actually used that it isn't mentioned there. Only the DP ones aren't used, so they're the only ones mentioned.

The same page mentions debug mode lines relating to the Distortion World anyway, which is a Platinum-only thing. If it was based on DP, there would be absolutely no reason for there to be any debug content referring to the Distortion World.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:15:42 No.19144643 Report

Quoted By:

>>19142907
Because they built XY from scratch, and in full 3D. They now have an engine/template to work off of instead of rebuilding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:18:14 No.19144675 Report

Quoted By:

>>19144619
I misread it then, heh. My bad.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:36:55 No.19144934 Report

Quoted By: >>19144947

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:38:01 No.19144947 Report

Quoted By:

>>19144934
>WebM
Google pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:41:05 No.19144988 Report

Quoted By: >>19145165

>>19142740
Actually no. They have already outsold FR/LG, BW2 and are only ~400k from HG/SS.

X/Y have the highest attach percentage of any Pokemon game since Gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 00:49:56 No.19145165 Report

Quoted By: >>19145492

>>19144988
>attach percentage
What's that? Number of games in circulation divided by number of consoles in circulation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 01:10:42 No.19145492 Report

Quoted By:

>>19145165
number of games bought with a new console

i.e. how many people bought a 3DS just because of pokemon, or were thinking about getting one but pokemon pushed them over the edge, etc

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 01:48:04 No.19145974 Report

Quoted By: >>19146107

>>19142766
Just made this for everyone who is curious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 01:58:43 No.19146107 Report

Quoted By: >>19146165

>>19145974
I'd say that's pretty fucking good for how new XY are
They'll catch up to gen 5 by the end of the year, probably well before then given that SSB4 is going to sell systems

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 02:04:32 No.19146165 Report

Quoted By:

>>19146107

I think OR/AS will boost X/Y's sales. 3D Hoenn will give people more confidence in 3D and they may well go back and rebuy X/Y if they were cautious before.

Still the general sales don't really surprise me. I think more people buy pre-owned nowadays than they used to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 May 2014 02:05:49 No.19146190 Report

Quoted By:

>>19142731
sure fagot

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