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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 17:54:19 No.19173990 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19174059

>movepool increased from 4 to 5

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 17:56:19 No.19174010 Report

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Can we all agree this would be brilliant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:00:23 No.19174059 Report

Quoted By: >>19174557 >>19174630

>>19173990
It'd need to be an even number, so 6.

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:01:00 No.19174066 Report

Quoted By: >>19174660

>movepool increased from 4 to 5
>5th moveslot is a "non-combat" slot that can only hold HM moves and isn't usable in battle

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:02:10 No.19174091 Report

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>number of moves reduced to 3
Suddenly, everything becomes worser.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:36:54 No.19174557 Report

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>>19174059

>6 moves

This would make competitive battling infinitely more stressful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:39:29 No.19174598 Report

Quoted By: >>19174671

It'd be great but it won't happen.

Transferring Pokémon with four moves to a game that allows them to have five would be weird, for instance. Transferring them back would be even weirder.

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:41:30 No.19174630 Report

Quoted By: >>19174702

>>19174059
>Why can't I hold all this coverage?
>Roguish Rocks, Danse Draconic, Edgequake, Crunch, Room For One More

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Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Sun 11 May 2014 18:42:49 No.19174640 Report

Quoted By: >>19174705

>Movepool is now 5 slots
>Abilities now take a moveslot

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:44:06 No.19174660 Report

Quoted By: >>19174703 >>19174725 >>19174800 >>19175431

>>19174066
lets take this idea and rework it

Every pokemon has a signature move, even if it isnt unique. For example, all blazikens will always know blaze kick and all sceptiles will always know leaf blade, even if it doesnt have the move within its 4 slots.

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:45:02 No.19174671 Report

Quoted By: >>19174801 >>19174821 >>19174844

>>19174598

You mean like that other time we were allowed to move a pokemon back to a previous gen? That was a thing that happened ever in human history, wasn't it?

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:45:02 No.19174672 Report

Quoted By: >>19174685 >>19174729 >>19174755 >>19174784

>movepools are not restriced to a number of 4 moves but to power
>weaker moves like scratch use only 1/4 of a slot, overpowered moves like earthquake use 1.5 slots
>you can have many weak moves (variety) or few overpowered moved (power), making strategy more elastic

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:46:24 No.19174685 Report

Quoted By: >>19174827

>>19174672
>like the powers from the KId Icarus Uprising multiplayer

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:47:16 No.19174702 Report

Quoted By: >>19174726

>>19174630
>Room for TWO more

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:47:20 No.19174703 Report

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>>19174660
Are you me? I had this idea a while ago and I think it would be pretty usable. Half of the pokemon with signature moves don't use them anyway since they need coverage/there's something better, so it might be pretty cool to have

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:47:23 No.19174705 Report

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>>19174640
>You can now give your pokemon multiple abilities at the expense of a moveslot

It would be swell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:48:45 No.19174724 Report

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Everything would be infinitely better

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:48:47 No.19174725 Report

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>>19174660
>For example, all blazikens will always know blaze kick and all sceptiles will always know leaf blade, even if it doesnt have the move within its 4 slots.

That's it!! That's the one!

But perhaps depending how you raise the Pokemon, you can have a different 'signature' move, to stop things getting too predictable or dull.

E.G.

Charizard:
Flamethrower
or
Fire Blast

Yes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:48:49 No.19174726 Report

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>>19174702
Edgequake is two moves, Stone Edge and EarthQuake.

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:49:06 No.19174729 Report

Quoted By: >>19174755

>>19174672
What about mons with technician?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:49:27 No.19174734 Report

Quoted By: >>19175021

Let's try a generic JRPG approach.
>PP is replaced with an MP bar
>all named attacks require MP
>the generic Attack command draws from the user's Attack stat, but Special Attack users have naturally higher MP to make up for that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:50:00 No.19174743 Report

Quoted By: >>19174766 >>19174779 >>19175810

Reminder that when making the Gen 3 games they seriously considered changing it to carrying 8 Pokemon at once, and they could each have 6 moves each.

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:50:18 No.19174748 Report

Quoted By: >>19174783

>>19174725
I guess that could work but a pokemon like blastoise will always, ALWAYS have hydro pump.

Only a select few will have 2 signatures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:50:57 No.19174755 Report

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>>19174729
>>19174672
technician and crits suddenly become prime focus of the game

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:51:39 No.19174766 Report

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>>19174743
>8 mons
>6 slots
>natures and abilities
>IV reworked
>battle frontier
Gen 3 would have been the pinnacle of competitive battling if that happened, all it would need is the split

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:52:26 No.19174779 Report

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>>19174743
[Citation Needed]

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:52:29 No.19174783 Report

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>>19174748
>Hydro Pump
>Not Hydro Cannon

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:52:38 No.19174784 Report

Quoted By: >>19174795

>>19174672
Also
certain mons have now higher total space than others. So pokémon that dont have particularly good stats or great abilities can take advantage of a bigger number of space for moves.

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:53:43 No.19174795 Report

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>>19174784
A bigger space, I mean, which translates to more moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:53:58 No.19174800 Report

Quoted By: >>19174852

>>19174660
>all talonflames always have brave bird
>all aegislash always have kings shield
>all scizors always have bullet punch
>all deoxys always have psycho boost

Shit would be too broken, it would give all of the already strong pokemon an extra moveslot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:54:04 No.19174801 Report

Quoted By: >>19175145

>>19174671
>What is Pokemon Bank

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:55:32 No.19174821 Report

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>>19174671

Gen II to Gen I.

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:56:32 No.19174827 Report

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>>19174685
which is a good way to add depth and balance the game, I like it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:57:13 No.19174844 Report

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>>19174671
Well, to be fair with that guy, it was stated that the purpose of Pokébank is that your personal collection can trascend through whichever generations come starting its launch, which implies that your mons can be transferred back to your older games assuming they're compatible with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 18:57:50 No.19174852 Report

Quoted By: >>19175819

>>19174800
Yes, but on the other hand, pokemon become a lot easier to check since everything has more coverage

Also, if anyone cares, there's an "other metagame" about 6 moveslots on smogon's forums

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/six-move-battling-xy.3504328/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:01:45 No.19174904 Report

Quoted By: >>19175051 >>19175090 >>19175139 >>19175201 >>19175860 >>19175916

Pokemon get all their abilities at once, like in Mystery Dungeon
What changes?

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:03:40 No.19174944 Report

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>Togekiss
>Aura Sphere
>Air Slash
>Roost
>Thunder Wave
>Protect/Reflect/Light Screen

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Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Sun 11 May 2014 19:10:54 No.19175021 Report

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>>19174734
I like that idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:12:21 No.19175047 Report

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>Greninja
>signature move: Water Shuriken

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:12:49 No.19175051 Report

Quoted By: >>19175126

>>19174904
conkeldurr shoots up in usage, most megas become useless. Garchomp is now considered a counter to kangaskhan in sand.

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:15:57 No.19175090 Report

Quoted By: >>19175104

>>19174904
>Shed Skin
>Moxie
>Intimidate

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:17:05 No.19175104 Report

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>>19175090
Forgot pic

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:18:34 No.19175126 Report

Quoted By: >>19175164 >>19175537

>>19175051
>most Megas become useless
>implying Hyper Cutter Mold Breaker Moxie Aerilate Mega Pinsir isn't a rape train
>implying Hyper Cutter Intimidate Sheer Force Huge Power Mega Mawile isn't nuclear-powered death
>implying Pressure Rock Head Unnerve Tough Claws Mega Aerodactyl wouldn't become the GOAT if it ever got BB or Head Smash ;_;
>implying various other implications
They share a Pokedex number, why wouldn't they gain all of the abilities of the old forme as they Mega Evolve?
Also, how does Trace work here?

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:19:28 No.19175139 Report

Quoted By: >>19175153

>>19174904
>Bibarel with Simple, Moody and Unaware

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:19:56 No.19175145 Report

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>>19174801
Oh yah, I definitely remember transferring back my Dazzling Gleam Jirachi to Pokemon Black 2 with Pokemon Bank

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:20:28 No.19175153 Report

Quoted By: >>19175214

>>19175139
>simple AND unaware

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:20:50 No.19175164 Report

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>>19175126
No, read again. Megas are a form change.
They share nat number but they have their own abilities.
Megas can have just 1 ability, so your theory is poop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:23:20 No.19175201 Report

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>>19174904
>hippowdon
>sand stream + sand force

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:23:47 No.19175214 Report

Quoted By: >>19175228

>>19175153
That would've pointless anon.

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:24:51 No.19175228 Report

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>>19175214
Sorry, meant

>simple AND moody

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:30:29 No.19175308 Report

Quoted By: >>19175397 >>19175434

>new item that activates all of the holder's abilities (minus mega abilities) at once when it's held. It cannot be removed from the holder in any way
>however, the user takes 1/8 damage at the end of each turn, and they cannot be healed except via abilities

How much would this shake the metagame up?

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:36:19 No.19175397 Report

Quoted By: >>19175442

>>19175308
Focus Sash Speed Boost Blaziken's Flare Blitz gets boosted even further, then again priority moves might fix that
Bronzong gets no weaknesses, but that health loss would limit it severely
Hustle + Serene Grace + Super Luck Togekiss would be interesting though

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:38:37 No.19175431 Report

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>>19174660
>all sceptiles will always know leaf blade

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:38:50 No.19175434 Report

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>>19175308
Reuniclus could be a potential user, as it gets an immunity to powder moves from Overcoat, recovery with Regenerator, and Magic Guard cancels out the damage of the item.
Life Orb would still be better for offensive sets, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:39:19 No.19175442 Report

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>>19175397
>Bronzong gets no weaknesses
He has ghost and dark weaknesses now ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:43:51 No.19175515 Report

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How about change from 4 to 8, but only 4 ca be used in a battle? It'd be like 4 usable ones and 4 reserves that you can easily switch them out for.

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 19:45:50 No.19175537 Report

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>>19175126
>M-Charizard Y with Solar Power and Drought
>M-Venusaur with Thick Fat and Chlorophyll
>M-Heracross actually ALMOST becomes an elder god with Moxie, Guts, AND Skill Link but loses to priority talonflame and pinsir anyway

Holy shit, these would tear the metagame apart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:05:08 No.19175810 Report

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>>19174743
I don't know why they don't raise the party limit, they did say that they wanted people to try using more pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:05:53 No.19175819 Report

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>>19174852
pokemon is already easy as shit

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:09:43 No.19175860 Report

Quoted By: >>19176071

>>19174904
>Cinccino with Skill Link and Technician at the same time

Only in my dreams.

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:15:48 No.19175916 Report

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>>19174904
>Power boost due to Download and Analytic
>All of the opponent's abilites through Trace
Best duck confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:28:59 No.19176071 Report

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>>19175860
>281 BP Tail Slap
holy fuck

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