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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:31:27 No.19176115 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19176458 >>19176964 >>19177238 >>19177278

would you like a type chart rebalance in ORAS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:32:01 No.19176119 Report

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No, I do not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:41:53 No.19176285 Report

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>Give Ice resistances
>Change up Fairy completely

It aint much to ask

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:53:55 No.19176445 Report

Quoted By: >>19176649

Grass needs some resistances. Let's make it resistant to Fairy type damage for a start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:54:34 No.19176458 Report

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>>19176115
>make ice resist water, flying, and bug, because what the fuck it only resists itself why
>make fairy weak to fire, because GF already made fire resist it and fairy needs another weakness
>remove ghost's resistance to bug because why does ghost resist bug
>make water weak to poison because water pollution, and water needs a nerf
>make ground resist ground to make poison/ground and especially rock/ground types actually somewhat okay
>make grass resist fairy because fairies don't harm nature, and grass needs some fucking resistances

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:54:59 No.19176467 Report

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Ice should resist Water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:57:58 No.19176509 Report

Quoted By: >>19176525 >>19176607

Make Psychic super effective against Fairy. It's about time Psychic gets a buff. Otherwise it's just a shittier Fairy type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:59:07 No.19176525 Report

Quoted By: >>19176532

>>19176509
make Psychic also neutral to Steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 20:59:53 No.19176532 Report

Quoted By: >>19176555 >>19176630

>>19176525
I would agree with this if it weren't for the fact that steel has been nerfed hard already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:01:46 No.19176555 Report

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>>19176532
Make Steel resist Ghost again. Ghost is still a strong type without that buff, so it should be fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:05:29 No.19176607 Report

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>>19176509
I think thats the point

>Except poison kills the Aliens while the clairvoyant can see past the toxic enemies

Psychic should resist poison though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:07:23 No.19176630 Report

Quoted By: >>19176664

>>19176532

>Nerfed hard
>Still has 10 resistances and an immunity

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:09:02 No.19176649 Report

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>>19176445
fucking this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:09:36 No.19176664 Report

Quoted By: >>19176678

>>19176630
Being neutral to dark/ghost is a really big fucking change in the era of muh priority sucker attack muh dark pulse greninja muh mega gengar. Maybe in gen 2 it wouldn't have mattered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:10:14 No.19176678 Report

Quoted By: >>19176708

>>19176664
It's still one of the best types in the game; it could handle another nerf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:11:52 No.19176708 Report

Quoted By: >>19176735 >>19176749 >>19176963

>>19176678
Yeah nah, its weakness to common offensive types like Ground and Fire and the fact that's offensively shit make it balanced. There's no need to nerf it, I don't know of any steel types that are overpowered anyway. Just because it has a lot of resistances doesn't make it the best type. Being defensive is the steel type's gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:13:45 No.19176735 Report

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>>19176708
Fighting is also a big weakness since everything and its mother carries Focus Blast or Superpower these days

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:14:49 No.19176749 Report

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>>19176708
It's not in need of nerfing or anything, but if we want to improve the worse types, we need to have them do decently against the better ones.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:15:12 No.19176753 Report

Quoted By: >>19176817 >>19177010

Best type chart y/n?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:19:27 No.19176817 Report

Quoted By: >>19176893

>>19176753

>Still seven types that resist Bug
>Still seven types that resist Grass

You blew it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:25:42 No.19176893 Report

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>>19176817
Fighting and Fairy no longer resist bug, but in return bug is no longer super effective on dark. (never made sense anyway)

Can't find anything reasonable to remove grass resistances from. Flying would be my first candidate but flying is such a shitty fragile type already I can't justify it. And Dragon's whole shtick is that it resists the elements.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:30:52 No.19176963 Report

Quoted By: >>19176991

>>19176708
Most of the reason why everything carries a ground/fire/fighting move is BECAUSE steel is such a good type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:30:53 No.19176964 Report

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>>19176115
ORAS shouldn't have been in the title. You know these things can't happen in the middle of a gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:33:08 No.19176991 Report

Quoted By: >>19177025

>>19176963
And because Fighting/Ground have really good coverage and distribution. With just fighting and ground you can hit Normal, Rock, Steel, Ice, Dark, Poison, Fire, and Electric types for super effective damage. And Earthquake and Superpower/Focus Blast are very very widely distributed among Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:35:00 No.19177010 Report

Quoted By: >>19177146

>>19176753
Changelog when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:35:39 No.19177025 Report

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>>19176991
It is good to see most reasons for movesets this gen shifting from "so you aren't fucked by steels" to "so you aren't fucked by mega venusaur"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:43:52 No.19177146 Report

Quoted By: >>19177322

>>19177010
Defensively speaking:

Ice resists water, flying, and bug.
Fairy is weak to fire and no longer resists bug.
Ghost no longer resists bug.
Water is weak to poison.
Ground resists ground.
Grass resists fairy.
Steel no longer resists Psychic but resists Ghost once again.
Fighting no longer resists bug.
Dark is no longer weak to bug.

Offensively speaking:

Water hits ice for 1/2.
Flying hits ice for 1/2.
Bug hits ice for 1/2, dark for neutral, ghost for neutral, fighting for neutral, and fairy for neutral
Poison is super effective against water.
Ground is not very effective against ground.
Fairy hits grass for 1/2.
Fire is super effective against fairy.
Ghost hits steel for 1/2.
Psychic is neutral against steel.

That should be it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:49:33 No.19177238 Report

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>>19176115
Why did OP use such a poorly designed chart?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:51:30 No.19177278 Report

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>>19176115
Poofter type should have never been introduced

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:54:10 No.19177322 Report

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>>19177146
Almost feels balanced, but again, playtesting would be needed, a few matchups would change, but I think the overall "Meta" would remain the same. So feels neutral.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:55:23 No.19177347 Report

Quoted By: >>19177403 >>19177564

we rebalances now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 21:57:42 No.19177403 Report

Quoted By: >>19177564

>>19177347
>changing normal type at all

for what purpose

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 22:05:43 No.19177564 Report

Quoted By: >>19177666 >>19181538 >>19183779

>>19177403
oh yes, >>19177347 is outdated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 May 2014 22:10:22 No.19177666 Report

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>>19177564
>all those resistances on ice
jesus christ no
just give it an extra 2 or 3 resistances, not half of the fucking chart

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 01:08:49 No.19180532 Report

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I want poison SE against bug again like in Gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 02:06:31 No.19181538 Report

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>>19177564
>Water weak to poison and flying

Kinda see how poison would make sense, but fucking flying?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 05:00:46 No.19183779 Report

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>>19177564
>the yellow dot thing was something I did when I posted my edited type chart months ago

Fucking sweet.

Here is best type chart though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 10:50:06 No.19185273 Report

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Even if they were to change type effectiveness, which is very unlikely seeing as they haven't done that since gen I, there's no way they'd do it half way through a generation. If they did it for ORAS, they'd have to keep the changes for Z/X2Y2 and that would just fuck with people trading between them. It'll have to wait till gen VIII.

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