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HE KEEPS ON TRYING and he seriously believes he can ever beat me without actually studying the meta

5FSG-WWWW-WWW7-84HL
MXGW-WWWW-WWW7-8ZVF
NCJW-WWWW-WWW7-BMY3
3UXG-WWWW-WWW7-BMP9
6P7G-WWWW-WWW7-BNRX

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 08:26:39 No.19184701 Report

Quoted By: >>19184771

>>19183081
Why was Trevenant out by himself for so long even though he had 2 other Pokemon left?

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LukeMate FC: 3668-9079-2395 IGN: Dog Mon 12 May 2014 08:39:25 No.19184771 Report

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>>19184701
Im the guy with the trevenant and it was VGC2014 if you bothered to look lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 16:31:20 No.19187400 Report

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Definitely not my best battle, but I did get some great advice from Ash Ketchem about how switching is "noobish."
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/randombattle-119286521

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Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 20:14:56 No.19189786 Report

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Dear lord...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 20:42:32 No.19190143 Report

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http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-119364717
based totem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 20:49:47 No.19190241 Report

Quoted By: >>19190640 >>19190678

>>19183081
may i ask the EV spread and nature for spookytree?

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LukeMate FC: 3668-9079-2395 IGN: Dog Mon 12 May 2014 21:14:45 No.19190640 Report

Quoted By: >>19190678 >>19192548

>>19190241
Its
252HP
252SpD
4Def
with Careful nature

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LukeMate FC: 3668-9079-2395 IGN: Dog Mon 12 May 2014 21:17:00 No.19190678 Report

Quoted By: >>19192609

>>19190241
>>19190640
Although im thinking of changing it to
126 Def 252Spd and 130HP
Because of the heavy physical meta this VGC

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LukeMate FC: 3668-9079-2395 IGN: Dog Mon 12 May 2014 21:22:55 No.19190791 Report

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http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2014-119210141

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Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 21:23:58 No.19190811 Report

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http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-uu-119378246
>guy spams leech seed on my tree

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 22:49:15 No.19192091 Report

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Movin' on up
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-119406741

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Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 23:21:06 No.19192548 Report

Quoted By: >>19192578 >>19195281

>>19190640
Why focus so much on SpD? Is there anything specific it accomplishes? I think it would be much better to split between Def and SpD more evenly depending on what threatens it.

While I am at it, can I ask why Smogon does such pointless EV spreads such as putting 252 Def onto a mon with a much lower SpD stat that would appreciate the EVs there much more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 23:21:17 No.19192553 Report

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>>19190811
I had that happen to me in gen 5, except instead of my tree, it was my Reuniclus. Reuniclus avoided it like 3 times, then on the 4th he got it and he was so mad when it didn't drain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 23:23:00 No.19192578 Report

Quoted By: >>19192650 >>19195281

>>19192548
It's the concept of a one sided wall. It's presumed that you're only really going to be using it for one type of attacker and have a second mon to support it. That said, some mons like being mixed walls and can handle it due to not having piss poor secondary defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 23:25:38 No.19192609 Report

Quoted By: >>19192810

>>19190678
>Thinking VGC is still heavily physical
8 out of the top 12 most used mons in VGC according to Battle Spot statistics are specially oriented mons.
Yes VGC was heavily physical at first but as people counter that with things like WoW and Intimidate people started using mons that could just shug those off and still hit at full power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 23:29:18 No.19192650 Report

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>>19192578
Thanks, that makes sense. I guess I have gotten used to having to account for there being 4 pokemon on the field at a given time in VGC meaning more like for physical and special attacks to be flying around.

Now what doesn't make sense is why a singles spread was being used in VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 23:41:29 No.19192810 Report

Quoted By: >>19193080

>>19192609
>using battle spot statistics
>Not using tournament statistics

If Battle spot statistics were accurate to what was happening competitively, it would be heavier on the physical still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 23:58:30 No.19193080 Report

Quoted By: >>19193628

>>19192810
Okay lets take the top 16 from Germany Nationals
out of the 96 pokemon, 48 were special attackers, 40 were physical attackers. The rest were ones I don't know if they were physical or special or they were support mons.

I think it is safe to say the meta is no longer physically dominated but instead more evenly split.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 May 2014 00:31:40 No.19193628 Report

Quoted By: >>19193835 >>19193905

>>19193080
Yet the top 16 from aisa had closer to a 65/35 split physical/special, from what I recall.

The big issue is that even with dominance of Intimidate/WoW, Kang/Chomp still crush the shit out of other mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 May 2014 00:45:28 No.19193835 Report

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>>19193628
Once again lets have a look, this time at the top teams in the BR Gloria Asia Cup
oh look, 31 physical attaackers, but wait whats that? 48 Special attackers?!
Quick, get your pure team of physical walls ready!
what you want more evidence? Okay then, of the top 10 pokemon used in this cup, 4 were physical and 6 special, just look at the physical dominance!

Seriously do some fucking research.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 May 2014 00:50:02 No.19193905 Report

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>>19193628
I will say that yes those two are still the most commonly used pokemon, but that does not make the meta physically oriented.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 May 2014 01:02:37 No.19194132 Report

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>>19183666
The second battle was great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 May 2014 01:25:56 No.19194480 Report

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http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2014-118740919

This is what happens when you don't use protection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 May 2014 01:37:24 No.19194629 Report

Quoted By: >>19194652 >>19198819

>>19183938
I was waiting for the Ice Shard the entire time. What kind of weird-ass Mamoswine doesn't have Ice Shard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 May 2014 01:38:56 No.19194652 Report

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>>19194629
They switched it in and it died to the hit meant for the Venusaur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 May 2014 02:12:26 No.19195040 Report

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Oblivious needs to be used more often.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-99836349

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 May 2014 02:24:08 No.19195281 Report

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>>19192548
What >>19192578 said.

But I also believe its bc WoW takes care of physical attackers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 May 2014 02:26:17 No.19195323 Report

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>>19195040
>B-but muh taunt

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LukeMate FC: 3668-9079-2395 IGN: Dog Tue 13 May 2014 08:21:31 No.19198819 Report

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>>19194629
My Mamo is banded. If i didnt predict that charizard i would have been finished.

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