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Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 14:36:42 No.19186373 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19186409 >>19186434

>setting up turn one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 14:41:10 No.19186409 Report

Quoted By: >>19186471

>>19186373
I have been playing with Prankster Sableye with trick and a flame orb recently. Just trick the orb onto them off the bat and steal the life orb or choice item, then throw that on the wall later in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 14:45:17 No.19186434 Report

Quoted By: >>19186544

>>19186373
This is the mistake that most bad players make, actually.

>"My setup sweeper has a good match against most of this guy's team! I'm gonna lead with it and get a quick 6-0 sweep!"
>proceeds to kill 1 mon (or not even that) and get revenged shortly after
You're supposed to save that shit for later, when stuff is worn down.

Unless you have a SD/DD Crawdaunt with aqua jet and the enemy team is mono fire or something like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 14:49:33 No.19186471 Report

Quoted By: >>19186510

>>19186409
thats clever, but is it worth forgoing a better specific item and willowisp for taking a chance on whatever your opponent has?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 14:54:27 No.19186510 Report

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>>19186471
I have wisp on an arcanine and aroma therapy on clefable, so I can cleanse my own burn if I opt to taunt a SR setter instead of tricking.

Since I am running trick (and prankster) I don't really care what item I have.

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Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 14:57:16 No.19186538 Report

Quoted By: >>19186540 >>19186544 >>19186588

>Opponent uses Stealth Rock
>my Cloyster uses Shell Smash
>sweep entire team

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 14:57:38 No.19186540 Report

Quoted By: >>19186577 >>19186672

>>19186538
What is priority?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 14:58:11 No.19186544 Report

Quoted By: >>19186577 >>19186672

>>19186538
not even one priority?
Jesus your opponent is bad
>>19186434

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Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 15:00:49 No.19186577 Report

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>>19186540
>>19186544
>The opponent used Mach Punch/Bullet Punch on Cloyster!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 15:02:20 No.19186588 Report

Quoted By: >>19186642

>>19186538
I find it hard to believe that a team doesn't have either a priority user or a mon with unaware, That cloyster is just setup bait vs my clefable nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 15:08:53 No.19186642 Report

Quoted By: >>19186728

>>19186588
Not quite.
252+ Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Clefable: 240-285 (60.9 - 72.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Oh and before you ask about Moonblast OHKO'ing, I gotcha covered
4 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Cloyster: 184-217 (76 - 89.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 15:12:46 No.19186672 Report

Quoted By: >>19186710

>>19186540
>>19186544
>Implying Cloyster can be OHKOed by a priority move

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 15:18:00 No.19186710 Report

Quoted By: >>19186732 >>19186762 >>19186766 >>19188061

>>19186672
Yeah it can faggot.
252 Atk Life Orb Technician Breloom Mach Punch vs. -1 4 HP / 0 Def Cloyster: 229-273 (94.6 - 112.8%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

Also assuming you're running Adamant, ScarfRaptor and Scarf Ape revenge kill you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 15:19:47 No.19186728 Report

Quoted By: >>19186754

>>19186642
>implying Cloyster wouldn't be at -1 in SpD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 15:20:21 No.19186732 Report

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>>19186710
Cloyster is at -1 from the shell smash. Not to mention it has lost HP from the turn it actually smashed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 15:22:22 No.19186754 Report

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>>19186728
>what is unaware

besides, tbolt pretty much kills
4 SpA Clefable Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Cloyster: 234-276 (96.6 - 114%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 15:22:48 No.19186762 Report

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>>19186710
>ScarfRaptor
No. Band it is.
>ScarfApe
Meh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 15:22:59 No.19186766 Report

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>>19186710
Holy shit, even better.
+2 252+ Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 380-450 (91.7 - 108.6%) -- approx. 37.5% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. -1 4 HP / 0 Def Cloyster: 254-302 (104.9 - 124.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 May 2014 17:52:35 No.19188061 Report

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>>19186710
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