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Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 19:45:57 No.19231317 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19231328 >>19231373 >>19231447 >>19231480 >>19233595 >>19233808

Scrubs who disconnect/ragequit from a pokemon battle should be barred from playing the game

Seriously, there is no legitimitate reason to leave other than funbro or being up against a pleb like verlisify

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 19:46:50 No.19231328 Report

Quoted By: >>19231349 >>19233034

>>19231317
OKAY

I NEED TO KNOW WHO THE FUCK IS THAT GUY

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 19:46:52 No.19231330 Report

Quoted By: >>19231361 >>19231462 >>19231515

>that guy that forfeits when he's down to his last pokemon

END IT WITH PRIDE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 19:48:25 No.19231349 Report

Quoted By: >>19231376

>>19231328
whatever for, anon? it shouldn't even be here. pokemon reaction images only.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 19:49:37 No.19231361 Report

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>>19231330
MY THOUGHT'S EXACTLY

You've gone this far, why not carry on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 19:50:54 No.19231365 Report

Quoted By: >>19232600

If you're a guy who doesn't like OU:the Team: the experience and leaves, you need to git gud

Chaos 2938-7628-9049

Chaos 2938-7628-9049 Thu 15 May 2014 19:51:51 No.19231373 Report

Quoted By: >>19231388

>>19231317
guitarist/vocalist for Wintersun? The dude with the unpronouncable surname

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 19:52:14 No.19231376 Report

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>>19231349
Pokefied reaction images are cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 19:53:26 No.19231388 Report

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>>19231373
maenpaa
Mein Pa
Not that hard, anon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 19:54:16 No.19231398 Report

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When my opponent DC's I breathe a sigh of relief.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:00:00 No.19231447 Report

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>>19231317
I've disconnected before, you giant fuck. it's not a big deal

Scott 4570-8911-9042

Scott 4570-8911-9042 Thu 15 May 2014 20:01:10 No.19231462 Report

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>>19231330
Sometimes it's better to forfeit.

If your last Pokemon is a wall and you're just going to spend 40 turns stalling until you run out of recovers, then don't waste the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:03:15 No.19231480 Report

Quoted By: >>19231516

>>19231317
I quit when I know I will lose and I dont want to waste the other person's time.

Fuck me right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:06:39 No.19231515 Report

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>>19231330
>people who forfeit at the VERY last turn

I don't understand.
My battle spot team is bulky with both stall and offense, so I see a few disconnects out of rage here and there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:06:40 No.19231516 Report

Quoted By: >>19231538

>>19231480
Yes, fuck you. It's pathetic, you can't even be fucked to try.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:08:40 No.19231538 Report

Quoted By: >>19231560 >>19231594 >>19232612 >>19234603

>>19231516
Time is a finite thing. You're saying you would rather spend your time on something worthless then to spend your time on something worthwhile?

Grow up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:10:54 No.19231560 Report

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>>19231538
not that anon, but I can understand if you're absolutely cornered and can't do a thing to the other party.

If I had at least a chance at winning I would at least try. back in gen 4 I had a Togekiss vs a Glaceon IN HAIL and I managed to toxic-encore it to death when it used Yawn on me. A chance is a chance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:13:30 No.19231594 Report

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>>19231538
>implying that you don't waste your time everyday
I would understand if you were a time efficient freak, but you're not. Heck, if you did more exercise, you'd live 5 years longer.

rekt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:15:51 No.19231634 Report

Quoted By: >>19231664 >>19232624

I forfeit if the match is a lost cause. I am admitting they won and ending the match.
I'll D/C before the match begins again OU: The team though. I don't even wanna bother. I wont have fun, and that is my only concern.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:18:19 No.19231664 Report

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>>19231634
The match isn't over, anon. You don't get to do that in matches irl, so why now? You're teaching yourself bad habits.

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Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:22:27 No.19231701 Report

Quoted By: >>19231725 >>19231978 >>19232125 >>19232187

>faint opponent's Spore Smeargle without much hassle
>they bring out Drifblim
>they start minimizing
>fuck FUCK FUCK
>they substitute
>it's too late
>+3 minimize
>they start stockpiling
>turn off 3DS

Just boring man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:25:01 No.19231725 Report

Quoted By: >>19231867

>>19231701
>not running no guard
>not running accuracy check moves

git

GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:39:03 No.19231867 Report

Quoted By: >>19231916

>>19231725

I do need to git gud. I ADMIT IT. ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:44:10 No.19231916 Report

Quoted By: >>19232036 >>19232046 >>19232277 >>19233725

>>19231867
Don't listen to him. The only pokemon with No guard wouldn't be able to do enough damage to a stockpiling Drifblim to take it out.

Moves that never miss are extremely weak and awful moves in any other scenarios aside from Aura Sphere but that doesn't do anything to drifblim and is not very effective against a lot of the common minimizers.

Don't run either of his suggestions to deal with minimize(granted, if you wanna run a Machamp just in general, go ahead) The best way to deal with evasion strategies is to hit the mon as hard as possible and take it out, you just need to hope you don't get really unlucky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:47:30 No.19231943 Report

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I don't even battle seriously, I find it hilarious when someone using some shit legendary like Entei or Zapdos uses their best move on my Clefable that already cosmic powered thrice and it doesn't do shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:50:09 No.19231978 Report

Quoted By: >>19232046 >>19232110

>>19231701
you need a phazer, man
and not some shit like dragon tail / circle throw
you need the good shit, like roar and whirlwind

what minimize users can hurt snorlax, out of curiousity for people who know

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:55:19 No.19232028 Report

Quoted By: >>19232048 >>19234088

Do DCs count as losses?

I used to do it a lot back in BW1 days because they didn't count as losses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:55:22 No.19232029 Report

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My general rule is that you should try to see the match to the very end, you can still hope for lucky misses or Crits.

However...

One time I did this, the match ended up being 300+ turns. It was stall vs. stall, and through some unfortunate plays I lost a few Pokemon very early on while they still had their full team. Mine didn't go down so easily but I didn't want to just give up right there. I probably ended up just unintentionally annoying my opponent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:56:07 No.19232036 Report

Quoted By: >>19232052

>>19231916
>tl;dr: baaaawww just disconnect like me :'(

What is No guard + toxic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:56:51 No.19232046 Report

Quoted By: >>19232131 >>19232159

>>19231916
Or... as >>19231978 said, phaze it out while you still can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:57:09 No.19232048 Report

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>>19232028
Of course they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 20:57:34 No.19232052 Report

Quoted By: >>19232108

>>19232036
why no guard + toxic?
just a poison type, they cannot miss with toxic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:02:16 No.19232108 Report

Quoted By: >>19232169 >>19232219

>>19232052
Can't break a substitute. No guard with a faster mon, and you're fine.

Heck, you could even run foresight and be okay.

>inb4 m-muh valuable moveslot

With singles users spamming minimize everywhere, it's worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:02:37 No.19232110 Report

Quoted By: >>19232219

>>19231978

What are some good Roar or Whirlwind users?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:03:50 No.19232125 Report

Quoted By: >>19232143 >>19233121

>>19231701

and this is why I love not having those lame Smogon rules. Anything goes and it's how Pokemon was intended. I love beating those OU teams with awesome tactics like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:04:04 No.19232131 Report

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>>19232046
Thanks for your input, m8

You brought so much fuck all to the table, I have no idea what I'm going to do with it!

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Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:05:27 No.19232143 Report

Quoted By: >>19233121

>>19232125
Me too. Smogon users can't be bothered to run anything to counter it, and then complain

Just whut

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:07:17 No.19232159 Report

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>>19232046
Yeah, unless you can't. If we're talking about minimize and disconnection we're probably talking about Battle Spot. In the 3v3 meta, it's gonna be pretty often the minimize user is the last alive. Generally, people save it for last since most of the mons will be weakened. Nobody really leads with their minimizer going for the game unless they're a giant idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:08:41 No.19232169 Report

Quoted By: >>19232203

>>19232108
>No guard with a faster mon
Oh yeah! All the no guard mons are so fast!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:10:44 No.19232187 Report

Quoted By: >>19232208

>>19231701
Smogonfag status: BTFO

God bless the minimize abusers, for they make Smogonfaggots cry bitch tears.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:12:19 No.19232203 Report

Quoted By: >>19232443

>>19232169
What is priority?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:12:31 No.19232208 Report

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>>19232187
What makes you think someone who plays on Battle Spot is a smogonfag?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:13:40 No.19232219 Report

Quoted By: >>19232277 >>19232336

>>19232108
nah man, valuable is what you need for the team
foresight is an interesting option, does it reduce their evasiveness? or just to hit them with dynamic punch for a confuse?

also what'd be a good champ set for dealing with minimize?
dynamic punchu and what else?

>>19232110
to be honest, steel types are what i like best, or snorlax, since they can't be toxic'd.

but ones i've found 'useful' are

Granbull
Skarmory
Drapion
Dialga >legendaries
Heatran >again
Cobalion >and again
Pangoro (mold breaker beats soundproof but its shit other than that tbh, just a niche)
Hariyama w/ Guts
Mandibuzz
Snorlax
Hippowdon
Mew, funnily enough, if they're trying to toxicstall you and it's not Muk

each have their problems though, but Snorlax, Mew, and Skarmory are my main ways to handle minimize

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:19:35 No.19232277 Report

Quoted By: >>19232302 >>19232427 >>19232428

>>19232219
Resets their evasiveness, allows for ghost mon to be hit with normal/fighting.

It's pretty easy to use. But people like >>19231916 would say otherwise, because they refuse to consider anything outside of their meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:22:09 No.19232302 Report

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>>19232277
Oh, and did I mention that it cannot be blocked by a substitute?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:25:50 No.19232336 Report

Quoted By: >>19232344 >>19232427

>>19232219
I've only done maybe 350 or so battles on singles (non-rated) and I haven't encountered very many minimize users. Maybe I'm lucky?

The few times I dealt with them was to use Toxic on a decently faster mon (over base 80, which is Drifblim's base speed), phaze it out (Muk cannot be Toxic'd and Chansey/Blissey mainly have Natural Cure), or taunt it.

A fast, strong pokemon can deal with them before they start boosting... forgoing a moveslot for Foresight seems pretty out there. I don't see minimizers much, so I'm not a very reliable source.

My team has Jirachi which can not be Toxic stalled, and has Cosmic Power for more shenanigans if all else fails. Though, I can be critted and evasion doesn't work that way..

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:26:35 No.19232344 Report

Quoted By: >>19232366

>>19232336
>non-rated

Jirachi Anon

Jirachi Anon Thu 15 May 2014 21:28:36 No.19232366 Report

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>>19232344
Like I said, I'm not reliable
I can't use one of my favorites in rated so I stick to unrated

They're really that persistent in the rankings? That's really bad..

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:35:58 No.19232427 Report

Quoted By: >>19232493

>>19232277
sounds cool

machamp can probably get by with 3 move coverage I think, if it removes ghost's immunity

Dynamic Punch, Stone Edge, Poison Jab and foresight maybe? what do you use?

>>19232336
i don't find it a lot either. To be honest, I also don't see a lot of spore abuse as much as I see it on PS, except in doubles

I think the pokemon official site shows what pokemon use what moves the most though, i remember there was a thread on here about Rock Tomb being one of garchomp's most used moved or somethin

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:36:01 No.19232428 Report

Quoted By: >>19233009

>>19232277
I would say otherwise because there are more useful options. Don't think I refuse to consider things "outside of my meta". I hardly ever play by smogon rules and I've played various metas. I've used foresight myself and I've found that in most battles I don't even end up using it and would have preferred a different move.

When discussing evasion, I don't think it's that common that you would need a specific counter like that for it on your team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:37:43 No.19232443 Report

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>>19232203
So, Non STAB Bullet Punch and shadow sneak? That'll do a hefty 15%. Maybe 40% tops on a SE hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:41:37 No.19232487 Report

Quoted By: >>19232577

okay so i have a question

What spreads do minimize abusers run?
do they want to be fast and get an eva boost before being hit, or do they want to be able to tank several and boost?

or does it depend on the mon

Jirachi Anon

Jirachi Anon Thu 15 May 2014 21:42:40 No.19232493 Report

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>>19232427
Rock tomb is really popular, in tangent with Focus Sash and SR. I see it a lot in ranked videos (mostly JPN players)

It can also check a switch in to slow it down if it happens to be scarfed, or a threat to one of your bench mons that Garchomp can't afford to stay in on.

I don't feel evasion is extremely common over here in unrated and isn't worth much of a hassle to mold your team around stopping it but having something like a decently fast Toxic/Taunt and the phaze moves that bypass evasion now. Hell I have phazing in case someone gets really cheeky with defensive boosts or when I predict a boosting move.

The only real difference unrated has is stronger Pokemon to worry about (I ran into Darkrai a lot one day) but there can be a lot of newer players and there are no ranks so that you see better players with approximate ranks

Jirachi Anon

Jirachi Anon Thu 15 May 2014 21:48:31 No.19232577 Report

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>>19232487
Minimizers aren't collectively very fast. The fastest I know is Drifblim (and Chandelure), and it has the HP to run a fast set + some defensive EVs. Base 80 speed isn't that fast but it can be a problem for defensive status users. Chandelure I'm not so sure about

Blissey and Chansey always run defenses and HP. Muk probably as well because base 50 isn't helping it with anything.
Clefable is the worst, as it can abuse Magic Guard to become immune to Toxic.. it also has Cosmic Power to be extremely annoying. They usually run defensive sets--most Minimize users would rather tank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:50:16 No.19232600 Report

Quoted By:

>>19231365
This. Seriously. A lot of you scrubs need to stop being little bitches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:51:33 No.19232612 Report

Quoted By:

>>19231538
If you forfeit fine, but if you turn off your 3DS/disconnect your Internet then you can go fuck off and die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 21:52:36 No.19232624 Report

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>>19231634
You'll never get good if you don't try and actually play. You never know your opponent could be stupid and not know what they are doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 22:26:00 No.19233009 Report

Quoted By: >>19233088 >>19233202

>>19232428
>I-I just can't deal with all these minimizers!
>Huh, using a move that counters minimize? I tried it. And by tried it, I mean I didn't use it when I should've.

Keep on trolling, smogonfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 22:28:47 No.19233034 Report

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>>19231328
Kinda looks like Jari Mäenpää. Might be wrong though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 22:32:50 No.19233088 Report

Quoted By: >>19233288

>>19233009
I never said I couldn't deal with minimizers. I don't find them to be so much of a problem, actually. And in my post, I clearly stated I don't affiliate myself with smogon. I actually prefer battle spot personally.

And I tried the move and found that it wasn't very useful and the moments when I "should've" used it hardly ever came up. There's a giant difference between not using the move and a lack of opportunities where I need to use it appear.

It's incredible how much of my post you altered.

Lord Business

Lord Business Thu 15 May 2014 22:36:14 No.19233121 Report

Quoted By:

>>19232125
>>19232143
6/10 You tried

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 22:43:08 No.19233190 Report

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>Opponent leads with Dragonite
>I lead with Cinccino
>Rock Blast one-turns it because multi-hit fucks up Multiscale
>Opponent has disconnected

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 22:44:06 No.19233202 Report

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>>19233009
>Use stomp
>dead.jpg

Thoughtless celestial !prw5BjXTeI

Thoughtless celestial !prw5BjXTeI Thu 15 May 2014 22:51:19 No.19233288 Report

Quoted By: >>19233369 >>19233418

>>19233088
>B-but

Somebody sounds like they're in denial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 22:56:35 No.19233369 Report

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>>19233288
Denial of what? Do tell.

You hardly even play competitively, I recognize your name and I've seen past posts of yours. What kind of input do you think you have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:00:52 No.19233418 Report

Quoted By: >>19233499

>>19233288
>implying that smogonfags aren't always in denial

please respect my meta anon
please accept my meta down your throat anon
please regard me as a serious competitive player because I play by smogon rules, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:07:11 No.19233499 Report

Quoted By: >>19233524 >>19233545

>>19233418
Daily reminder that top VGC player Ray Rizzo posts on smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:09:05 No.19233524 Report

Quoted By: >>19233568

>>19233499
No one cares

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:10:31 No.19233545 Report

Quoted By: >>19233602

>>19233499
That's largely because there weren't really any dedicated VGC forums until about two years ago though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:12:32 No.19233568 Report

Quoted By: >>19233913 >>19233983

>>19233524
>wahhh smogonfags force their meta
>no smogonfag is a serious competitive player!!
>Well, this smogon user has proven to be a competent competitive player by winning many official tournaments
>DOESNT MATTER

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:12:53 No.19233574 Report

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I-its not my fault I guessed which Charizard it was gonna m evolve into

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:14:33 No.19233595 Report

Quoted By: >>19233933

>>19231317

Hahaha i was going to call you a faggot until that vers comment. He truly is the scum of the earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:15:13 No.19233602 Report

Quoted By: >>19233958

>>19233545
I realize, my point was that the "smogon stereotype" isn't true and the actually good battlers from the site are respectable people. Smogon is a large community and with every large community, there's a large amount of assholes on it. In smogon's case , they suddenly become the face of smogon for whatever reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:26:28 No.19233725 Report

Quoted By: >>19233786

>>19231916
Golurk and machamp both have stone edge/ice punch

not to say I like minimize, but still, drifblim isn't all that great especially if it used its slots on minimize

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:31:15 No.19233786 Report

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>>19233725
True. I'm more used to seeing Clefable as a minimizer. It does the same thing as Drifblim in terms of evasion boosting essentially, only better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:33:17 No.19233808 Report

Quoted By:

>>19231317
>there is no legitimitate reason to leave other than funbro
Leaving against funbro? Do you hate fun?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:38:46 No.19233888 Report

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forfeiting is fine, just dont hit the internet switch to d/c. If you're gonna ragequit at least let me save a battle video of you being a fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:40:47 No.19233913 Report

Quoted By:

>>19233568
Anti-smogonfags are the cancer that's killing /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:42:41 No.19233933 Report

Quoted By:

>>19233595
Thanks man. Glad we're united in our hate of that faggot.

>I went undefeated at the VGC regionals
>I got straight A's at my public high school and didn't even try

He bullshits like a bull shits

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:44:36 No.19233958 Report

Quoted By: >>19234002

>>19233602
and you're one of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:46:49 No.19233983 Report

Quoted By: >>19234046

>>19233568
Actually, I was referring to the fact that people tend to refer to themselves as 'competitive' because they lurk on smogon, and play smogon rules.

Nice attempt at a strawman, but you failed :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:48:06 No.19234002 Report

Quoted By: >>19234035

>>19233958
In what way? I don't denounce any kind of play. I only play smogon rules when I play showdown. If i'm playing doubles or VGC on cart I'll use shit like Mega Kan if i feel like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:50:43 No.19234035 Report

Quoted By: >>19234223

>>19234002
>The best way to deal with evasion strategies is to hit the mon as hard as possible and take it out
>Best way

omg ur a smogon player i must obey ur evry command

When in fact, other users have shown you to be flat out wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:51:15 No.19234046 Report

Quoted By: >>19234116

>>19233983
If anyone actually does this, then they're a moron. I've never met a person like this before ever.

The only time I've seen someone refer to themselves as competitive, it was because they thought they took the game seriously, not because they were using smogon rules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:54:22 No.19234088 Report

Quoted By:

>>19232028

yes.

you can even be temp banned from rating battles for doing it too many times

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:55:53 No.19234116 Report

Quoted By: >>19234288

>>19234046
...competitive means gud
plebs think that they're good because they've played a few cookie cutter smogon builds

see
>The best way to deal with evasion strategies is to hit the mon as hard as possible and take it out
for an example

don't shitpost anymore thanks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 May 2014 23:59:40 No.19234166 Report

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>Your opponent sent out Ferrothorn!
>Go, Espeon!
>Espeon used Calm Mind
>Ferrothorn used Stealth Rock
>Magic Bounce bounced Stealth Rock back at your opponent!
>Your opponent has disconnected

my sides still haven't recovered

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 00:04:36 No.19234223 Report

Quoted By: >>19234508

>>19234035
Who showed that I was wrong? I gave my opinion on the best way to deal with minimize without restricting your team to specific counters.

All the other posts I've seen were no guard mons(who are extremely easy to beat and see almost no use, aside from Machamp who is still fairly easy to beat), moves that always hit which are very weak except for Aura Shpere which does practically nothing to the most common minimizers, Clefable and Drifblim, Foresight(another move that isn't as useful as coverage options or even taunt) and phazing, which like I've said isn't as reliable in Battle Spot with only 3 - 4 mons.

I think the best way to deal with it(and still have consistent and reliable moves on your pokes) to take it out before it gets some boosts up. You'll know what mon to bring in team preview to hit it the hardest so it shouldn't be much of an issue. All minimizers are either slow or frail to boot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 00:09:23 No.19234271 Report

Quoted By:

Infiltrator crobat w/ toxic & whirlwind

Minimize problem solved

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 00:10:59 No.19234288 Report

Quoted By:

>>19234116
>competitive means gud
Competitive means you are playing to win. You don't have to be good as long as you're doing so.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 00:15:03 No.19234353 Report

Quoted By: >>19234420

>opponent kills his last pokemon with explosion
>also kills my last pokemon
>tie
why is this. I thought if you used explosion/self destruct to kill your last pokemon, even if it finished off your opponent too, it's a loss. I guess I can see why it's counted as a tie but still I thought it was a loss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 00:18:05 No.19234420 Report

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>>19234353
I think in VGC they count that as a loss.

Jirachi Anon

Jirachi Anon Fri 16 May 2014 00:23:22 No.19234508 Report

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>>19234223
Though I don't have a lot of competitive merit (I play unraked BS for fuck's sake) I think it's best to either:

A) Attack and hope you can take it down or at least to a bearable amount of HP left
B) Taunt it. It becomes dead weight if it cannot boost
C) Toxic/Burn it, hindering its recovery
D) Trick/Switcheroo a choice item/Assault Vest onto it
E) Phaze moves. Good, except you have to deal with it later on.

One thing I'm not very sure of is if Toxic coming from a Poison type is able to hit through the evasion boosts.
Foresight doesn't have very good distribution, but if evasion users bother you that much then go right ahead. No Guard can come in handy too but they won't be doing much to Clefable, the most potent user.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 00:29:54 No.19234603 Report

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>>19231538
You're taking the time in the first place to start up your system and play pokemon in the first place.

On top of that, you're pissing away time on 4chan. I doubt you're the first person who needs to tell someone else to grow up.

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