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Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 01:15:19 No.19235178 View View Reply Original Report

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What where they thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 01:16:06 No.19235186 Report

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>>19235178
I prefer Tobias to Cameron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 01:16:11 No.19235187 Report

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>>19235178
>PROMOTIONS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 01:17:22 No.19235198 Report

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>>19235178
>Let's make a tourneyfag character so they realize how much everyone hates them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 01:36:39 No.19235458 Report

Quoted By: >>19236034

>>19235178
Whatever it was, it was infinitely better than Cameron. Fuck Cmaeron. He is without a doubt the worst most irritating character in the history of televised media. He's one of the few character who legitimately deserves to be caught in a nuclear explosion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 01:38:29 No.19235480 Report

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That they needed to ship Ash off to Unova within the next three episodes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 01:39:49 No.19235509 Report

Quoted By: >>19235758

>Ash actually used a Rock Smash Gible against a fucking Darkrai

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 01:40:27 No.19235517 Report

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It was a good concept. The problem was that in delivery it meant there were only two good fights in Ash's last Sinnoh League match.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 01:50:02 No.19235679 Report

Quoted By: >>19235717 >>19235810 >>19235836 >>19235875 >>19235921 >>19235966 >>19236063

>>19235178
can you guys guess the rest of his team? pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 01:52:14 No.19235717 Report

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>>19235679
Ho-oh. That's why we haven't seen it for years. He also has Latias (can't have one without the other), Entei and Zyguard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 01:55:20 No.19235758 Report

Quoted By: >>19236059 >>19236162

>>19235509
>not complaining about Torkoal instead
Gible is one of Ash's best glass cannons with meteor and at least Rock Smash was super effective and probably softened him to get taken out by Sceptile.

Torkoal just got one shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 01:59:17 No.19235810 Report

Quoted By: >>19235823

>>19235679
I'm not too familiar with the show's canon, but arn't the top-end legendaries like Lugia/Rayquaza/Groudon etc completely unique whereas the ones like the trios are the only ones confirmed to have multiples?

I'm guessing he probably has one of the legendary beasts, a kanto bird, one of the Regis and a Magikarp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:00:09 No.19235823 Report

Quoted By: >>19235853

>>19235810
There are multiple Lugia, not sure about the others

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:01:12 No.19235836 Report

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>>19235679
I'm thinking Terrakion, Heatran, Deoxys and Shaymin-Sky.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:03:06 No.19235853 Report

Quoted By: >>19235867 >>19237629

>>19235823
>There are multiple Lugia
The last movie I watched was the second one as a kid so that does make that seem a bit silly when just one is enough to blow up the world or whatever it was.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:04:10 No.19235867 Report

Quoted By: >>19236017

>>19235853

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:04:41 No.19235875 Report

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>>19235679
>Darkrai
>latios
>Zapdos
>Suicune
>Registeel
>Shaymin

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:08:05 No.19235921 Report

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>>19235679
Darkrai, Latios, Entei, Celebi, Rayquaza and his ace pokemon.. an extremely well trained pikachu that he used to capture his legendary pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:10:25 No.19235957 Report

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>>19235178
He literally had no point in the anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:11:30 No.19235966 Report

Quoted By: >>19235988

>>19235679
I read somewhere that he only has dragon tipes outside of Darkrai.Faggot.maybe Arceus-dragon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:13:48 No.19235988 Report

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>>19235966
His statement was just that Draco meteor could've defeated any Pokemon but his Darkrai, I don't get why people interpret that to mean that he has nothing but Dragon types. He was just praising Gible's strength.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:14:28 No.19235994 Report

Quoted By: >>19236029 >>19236155

>>19235178
He came out of nowhere when all the past league champions were chumps, but I'm fine with him. Cameron is the one to get mad about.

I want Ash's all-star team, Pikachu/Charizard/Snorlax/Sceptile/Infernape/Greninja, to fight someone that strong in a league final. Hopefully the one he wins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:15:51 No.19236011 Report

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>>19235178

>>19235178
RIP blackasaur, he was a true patrior

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:16:32 No.19236017 Report

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>>19235867
Oh god my pancreas just achieved critical mass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:17:41 No.19236029 Report

Quoted By: >>19236092 >>19238914

>>19235994
>Greninja

>not Heracross or even Muk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:18:07 No.19236033 Report

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RIP blackasaur, he was a true patrior

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:18:15 No.19236034 Report

Quoted By: >>19236117

>>19235458
Fucking seriously. I'll prefer Tobias with his out of nowhere Legendaries ANY DAY over that runt Cameron. Tobias was basically the writer's way of saying "fuck, we made Ash too competent, so we have to put a stop to him", and even then, out of everyone in the region Ash still managed to trump two of Tobias's Pokemon, the second of which no one has really seen. At least Tobias is cool, even if they didn't explain him.

But Cameron? That fuck. He didn't deserve his Humilau Gym Badge, he didn't deserve to even place as far as he did in the Unova League, and he did NOT deserve to defeat Ash. At the very least, Ash should have won and then lost to Virgil so he could have another tournament where he places in the semifinals, leading to him actually placing in the finals for the Kalos league or even WINNING it. Cameron was one of the worst pieces of trash that the already fairly mediocre BW series had to offer.

Pic related, I'm this mad that they wrote that horribly awful character Cameron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:18:24 No.19236036 Report

Quoted By: >>19236117

>>19235178
The thing is...Ash v Paul was this epic and emotional 2.5 episode clash. Ash losing to a random trainer in a close match would have been underwhelming. So being in a time crunch and needing to top the Paul battle, they created a trainer with a Darkrai and a Latios to make it impossible for Ash to win but at least make him look the second best trainer in Sinnoh outside the Champion/Elite 4.

I heard a rumor they were originally intending for Lucario v Pikachu with Tobias and have him use more Pokemon but they didn't. I don't know if that's true, but I wish his team included the Auradog that way we didn't have to see idiotic Cameron's Riolu DEM his way to victory. Then again BW Ash didn't deserve to make a semifinal with that shitty team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:20:15 No.19236059 Report

Quoted By: >>19236124

>>19235758
I believe torkoal actually has the highest win/loss ratio of all ash's pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:20:23 No.19236063 Report

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>>19235679
Darkrai, Latios, Latias, Zapdos, Entei, and Regice.

He would then have one Legendary from each region available at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:22:40 No.19236092 Report

Quoted By: >>19236218

>>19236029
Shit man they need to bring Muk back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:23:46 No.19236117 Report

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>>19236034
>>19236036
not to metion the garbage animation in bw and battle strategies, evade atack, evade, attack hit win next evade attack wtf dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:24:01 No.19236124 Report

Quoted By: >>19236150

>>19236059
Torkoal has a mediocre win/loss record, his best is actually Infernape just going by that.

Torkoal's most notable battle was him nearly beating that Regice, other than that he was probably mid-tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:25:27 No.19236150 Report

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>>19236124
RIP blackasaur, he was a true patrior

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:25:37 No.19236155 Report

Quoted By: >>19236182

>>19235994
Oh my god YES. I am so sick and tired of Ash always losing the goddamn pokemon leagues and the battle with Tobias was so half-assed I'm so tired of talking about this faggot to the point where it pisses me off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:25:55 No.19236162 Report

Quoted By: >>19236182 >>19236252

>>19235758
I love Torkoal. I won't complain about it, but I will complain about how the writers handled it. Torkoal is awesome. It came very close to defeating a fucking legend raised by the strongest Frontier Brain. That's pretty impressive. It may be one of Ash's best tanks, if not the best...yet it got taken out in one blow?

Swellow was a complete badass during Hoenn and had many feats, yet it was OHKO'd as well.

Both of them deserved better. Gible only got a hit in because of the short time it spent on Ash's team, on top of missing out on the battle against Paul. Sceptile ended up relying on a bullshit "power of friendship" thing.

It's a shame some of my favorite Pokemon ended up being the fall guys. I wish they would've let the Johto starters get slaughtered instead. At least it would've been more believable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:26:55 No.19236182 Report

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>>19236155
>>19236162
RIP blackasaur, he was a true patrior

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:28:58 No.19236218 Report

Quoted By: >>19236373

>>19236092
Why dont they? Muk can just take hits everyday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:31:16 No.19236252 Report

Quoted By: >>19236309 >>19236348

>>19236162
Most of Ash's Hoenn team was amazing.
>Swellow's never lose attitute
>Sceptile's desire to become stronger
>Corphish not knowing his own strength
>Torkoal the still-kickin' old man
>Glalie beating half the league
I'm guessing they showed Torkoal and Swellow getting one-shot because they wanted to show just how strong Darkrai/Latios were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:35:10 No.19236309 Report

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>>19236252
Glalie is one of Ash's pokemon I constantly forget he has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:37:28 No.19236348 Report

Quoted By: >>19236488

>>19236252

Some dude on Serebii posted this:

Tier 1: Charizard, Infernape, Sceptile, Pikachu, Snorlax, Glalie
Tier 2: Krookodile, Kingler, Swellow, Heracross, Bulbasaur, Gliscor
Tier 3: Gible, Quilava, Torterra, Corphish, Buizel, Staraptor
Tier 4: Squirtle, Tauros, Donphan, Noctowl, Torkoal, Pignite
Tier 5: Bayleef, Leavanny, Muk, Snivy, Palpitoad, Boldore
Tier 6: Oshawott, Scraggy, Unfezant, Totodile

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Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:38:34 No.19236364 Report

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What WERE they thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:39:22 No.19236373 Report

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>>19236218
I haven't a clue, I just want to see him again really. Muk had quite the unique personality.

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Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:41:13 No.19236399 Report

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>>19235178
>Goku monkey
>Gliscor
>a fucking 600 BST base evo
How the fuck would kick Ash down a notch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 02:48:13 No.19236488 Report

Quoted By: >>19236698 >>19237672

>>19236348
What I think:

Charizard Tier: Charizard
Charizard Wannabe Tier: Sceptile, Infernape
Even More Kanto Pandering Tier: Bulbasaur, Squirtle
Depending on the Writers' Mood Tier: Everybody else

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 03:05:18 No.19236698 Report

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>>19236488
This is actually pretty accurate. They've never been terribly consistent about the power levels of Ash's Pokemon other than the ones they deem to be powerhouses which are usually Charizard, Infernape and Sceptile. Arguably Shadescroc is in there too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 04:34:22 No.19237629 Report

Quoted By: >>19237662

>>19235853
The problem in the movie was more caused by the birds being out of balance or whatever, if I remember right. Lugia's job was calming their shit down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 04:36:51 No.19237662 Report

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>>19237629
The 3 birds got caught and abused, went mad, and Luiga showed up like
Bitch. Free my niggas or earf is doomed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 04:38:09 No.19237672 Report

Quoted By: >>19237692 >>19237696 >>19237705

>>19236488
Infernape > Charizard, at least when it activates Blaze.

Blaze !qn.edqTrdk

Blaze !qn.edqTrdk Fri 16 May 2014 04:39:21 No.19237683 Report

Quoted By: >>19237707

I really hate how Ash never uses his best Pokemon in the matches that really truly matter? Why didn't he use Infernape? Why didn't he use Glalie? It just irritates me when I know someone can achieve something they really aspire for, but then hold themselves back when they already have the means. Luckily! I have a lot of hope for the new director and so far, I'm very much liking X/Y so far... I think the league will be the best one ever!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 04:40:37 No.19237692 Report

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>>19237672
That is a shitload of people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 04:41:31 No.19237696 Report

Quoted By: >>19237723

>>19237672
Charizard should have Blaze as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 04:42:52 No.19237705 Report

Quoted By: >>19238488 >>19238989 >>19238999 >>19239003

>>19237672
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2CVvijnmqY

Pardon the stupid border, it was the only one I could find that wasn't an AMV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 04:43:08 No.19237707 Report

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>>19237683
>tripfag
Why do we still have newfags here even after the ORAS announcement?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 04:44:19 No.19237723 Report

Quoted By: >>19238835

>>19237696
We've seen other mons use Blaze (and Torrent and Overgrow) before and it's nowhere near as crazy as Infernape's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 06:25:56 No.19238488 Report

Quoted By: >>19238962

>>19237705
I was watching the actual dubbed episode and they unfortunately didn't play that song. It seems whoever made this video edited in this song insert. And holy fuck, it is awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:04:04 No.19238737 Report

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This guy pretty much changed the Pokemon League in the Anime.

After seeing how well he did in his Gym Challenges. They had to step up their game and make sure Gym Leaders can handle themselves if someone challenges them with Legendary Pokemon in the future.

After this, they decided to test the Gym Leaders in their capabilities in case someone challenges them with a Legendary Pokemon in the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:18:09 No.19238835 Report

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>>19237723

Ash's infernape confirmed for bullshit

and I want it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:29:49 No.19238914 Report

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>>19236029
Muk was so god-tier
>literally lets bellsprout smack him 70 times without flinching and then suffocates it with a body slam

Primeape too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:32:16 No.19238924 Report

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>Ash has a strong-as-fuck team
>how can we end it so that it looks like he legitimately loses
>how about a guy with legendaries on his team
>brilliant

Something like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:38:43 No.19238962 Report

Quoted By: >>19239003

>>19238488
I remember watching the subbed version and I think there was a j-pop/rock song in that spot, it reminded me a lot of the japanese version of Gohan turning SSJ2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:41:09 No.19238989 Report

Quoted By: >>19239003

>>19237705
ash's infernape is fucking ridiculous
>eats a bunch of damage before fighting electivire
>eats a bunch of thunders and toxic spikes damage
>eats more damage
>lives and puts electivire flat on it's ass

what the literal fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:42:42 No.19238999 Report

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>>19237705
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2CVvijnmqY

>Infernape goes down, referee fucks about and waits for it to get back up
>Electivire goes down, referee calls it immediately

fucking ref

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:43:49 No.19239003 Report

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>>19238962
One of the very early ending themes of the original series, I believe. Still a fuckton better than the trash they used in the dub, which you could barely even hear and even silence would have been better.

The song insert in >>19237705 however, was great, and is actually the same theme that played during the climax of the Charizard vs. Blastoise battle between Ash and Gary way back in the Johto League.

>>19238989
Maybe Pokemon Amie set in and Infernape kept surviving at the brink of fainting and then it wasn't until it finally fell onto the ground that it remembered, oh, it has a pinch ability, time to superpower fire up.

It's still fucking cool though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:47:29 No.19239029 Report

Quoted By: >>19239037

Has Charizard's Blaze ever activated? People tend to rank Infernape as Ash's strongest on the back of that battle vs Electivire, but I don't think we've ever actually seen Charizard unleash his most potent power.

I mean it'll be irrelevant after the inevitable transofrmation into Mega Charizard X, but hey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:48:59 No.19239037 Report

Quoted By: >>19239060 >>19239087

>>19239029
I don't think it has. Its tournament bouts were before Abilities were introduced, and it was never in peril in the BW series for us to find out.

And I'm guessing he's getting Zard Y since Alan's got Zard X.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:52:03 No.19239060 Report

Quoted By: >>19239072 >>19239087

>>19239037
Plus X really doesn't suit Ash at all design-wise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:53:52 No.19239072 Report

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>>19239060
Not unless you all want him to become a Chuuni like Alan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:56:11 No.19239087 Report

Quoted By: >>19239132

>>19239037
>>19239060

Either way, a full transformation is going to overshadow Blaze.

(also its kind of weird from a marketing perspective to not give Ash Char-X, given that Char-Y is being completely ignored in Smash Bros, was ignored in Origins, etc)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 07:59:13 No.19239102 Report

Quoted By: >>19239121 >>19239394

has anybody ever pulled Ash aside and been all

"dude, you have access to some kickass Pokemon and you're just leaving them at Oak's lab. Do you actually WANT to win a tournament? Deposit some of these shitmon into the PC and make an all-star team you homo."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 08:03:47 No.19239121 Report

Quoted By: >>19239124

>>19239102
Ash: But I want to give all Pokemon I catch a chance to be the best that they can be! I have trust and faith in all my Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 08:05:26 No.19239124 Report

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>>19239121
that sure sounds like "I like losing, mmm yes please shit in my mouth rational trainers of the world."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 08:09:14 No.19239132 Report

Quoted By: >>19239155

>>19239087
>its kind of weird from a marketing perspective to not give Ash Char-X, given that Char-Y is being completely ignored in Smash Bros, was ignored in Origin
My guess is that X was used in Origins and the Special because they always intended to give Ash Y.

As for Smash Bros., a physical fighter probably made more sense for a fighting game, and it's probably the more popular of the two.

I think it'd make less sense to completely shun Y all together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 08:16:19 No.19239155 Report

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>>19239132

Well considering Charizard was the only Gen 1 starter to get two Megas because of hurr durr marketing I don't think its unprecedented that they'd ignore the slightly less popular form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 08:54:31 No.19239394 Report

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>>19239102
He usually uses his best mons at the tournaments. Though he didn't in Hoenn and I didn't even bother watching the Unova league so I couldn't say there.

Heck, in Sinnoh they even had a whole episode to him gathering up his Oak'd mons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bb3EFHOXws

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 May 2014 09:38:36 No.19239594 Report

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>>19235178
>What where they thinking?
That Ash should lose to a guy with legit strong pokemon and not just to some regular pokemon team with a Cowboy Meowth. and at least Tobias won the tournament all the way, and not to some nameless new character

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