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Typing shennanigans

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:25:21 No.19299504 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19303468 >>19311081

Make a pokémon better(or worse) by just changing its typing.

>Steel/Ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:26:18 No.19299514 Report

Quoted By: >>19299535

goodra is now fire/water

see how i made it better or worse just by changing its typing

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:27:48 No.19299535 Report

Quoted By: >>19299616

>>19299514
>Not making it female-only

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:36:51 No.19299616 Report

Quoted By: >>19299658

>>19299535

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:37:32 No.19299626 Report

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Make it Water/Fighting

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:39:42 No.19299647 Report

Quoted By: >>19299667 >>19308624

Fighting/Flying

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:40:46 No.19299656 Report

Quoted By: >>19299690

Fairy/Grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:40:49 No.19299658 Report

Quoted By: >>19299813

>>19299616
>Thread about typing shennanigangs.
>Not "Die in a Ice"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:41:06 No.19299667 Report

Quoted By: >>19308624

>>19299647
>saving a thumbnail

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:42:47 No.19299688 Report

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Grass/Steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:42:57 No.19299690 Report

Quoted By: >>19299704

>>19299656
>making it better
>by giving it more weakness

hurr

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:44:21 No.19299704 Report

Quoted By: >>19299730

>>19299690
>makes it not completely outclassed by Sylveon in singles by adding a different type
>can take advantage of its own ability
>OP also mentioned you can make it worse

hurr

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:46:57 No.19299730 Report

Quoted By: >>19299775 >>19299783 >>19314306 >>19314475

>>19299704
>>makes it not completely outclassed by Sylveon in singles by adding a different type
>by giving more weakness

Sure bro, now people will totally use Florges over Sylveon, especially now with that glaring weakness to Fire and Flying. It's not like they're extremely common coverage types or anythign :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:51:22 No.19299775 Report

Quoted By: >>19299787 >>19314475

>>19299730
>Sure bro, now people will totally use Florges over Sylveon

different sets of resistances
grass STAB
better status/leech seed absorber

having some differences for a niche is better than having none at all. :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:51:58 No.19299783 Report

Quoted By: >>19299808

>>19299730
I bet you think Heatran is bad because it's weaknesses are common

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:52:32 No.19299787 Report

Quoted By: >>19299829

>>19299775
having a niche doesn't stop it from being outclassed in almost every way that matters :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:54:14 No.19299808 Report

Quoted By: >>19299828 >>19299829

>>19299783
No, I think Grass/fairy is a shit type and not an upgrade from mono-fairy, and it definitely doesn't make florges better in any way to sylveon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:55:03 No.19299813 Report

Quoted By: >>19299917

>>19299658
Sorry, don't have a .gif for that.

I'll go find one.

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:56:45 No.19299828 Report

Quoted By: >>19299831

>>19299808
>Make a pokémon better(or worse) by just changing its typing.
>or worse
>OR WORSE
learn to read

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:56:51 No.19299829 Report

Quoted By: >>19299848

>>19299787
>>19299808
All the differences I already listed make it not outclassed in every way that matters. If you're building a team in singles you can consider Florges if you need, for example, a ground resistance because your team has a weakness to ground. As opposed to now where you'd totally ignore it because Sylveon has the same type AND does what Florges does but better. :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:57:10 No.19299831 Report

Quoted By: >>19299864 >>19299883

>>19299828
>moving the goal post

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:58:31 No.19299848 Report

Quoted By: >>19299990

>>19299829
>All the differences I already listed make it not outclassed in every way that matters.

Except being scared of Half the metagame :^)

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:58:41 No.19299853 Report

Quoted By: >>19299864

>bug/dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 01:59:49 No.19299864 Report

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>>19299831
>joining a game without reading the rules
>>19299853
Fuck, I was going to suggest that for Scyther.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:01:40 No.19299883 Report

Quoted By: >>19299914 >>19307377

>>19299831
I see no fallacy with his statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:04:12 No.19299914 Report

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>>19299883
First he talks about how I "think Heatran is shit because of his common weakness". When I retort, then he pulls the out "y-yeah well it doesn't matter because the rules say nothing against making a pokemon worse". So he either joins a metagame discussion then backs up, or it's not even the same anon

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:04:28 No.19299917 Report

Quoted By: >>19299935 >>19299944

>>19299813
Not a gif, but here's something

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:06:59 No.19299935 Report

Quoted By: >>19299953

>>19299917
We need to caption that.

Something witty about Starmie and Freeze-Dry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:07:45 No.19299944 Report

Quoted By: >>19300006

>>19299917
Cool.

What can you find about "Die in a Dark"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:08:28 No.19299953 Report

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>>19299935
Let's better not and say we did

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:11:28 No.19299990 Report

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>>19299848
With those resistances, special bulk, and still having useful resistances such as water, ground, fighting, and dark? I thought think so. I'd rather have more weaknesses but with an actual small use rather than less weaknesses but 100% overshadowed.

It's astounding how even in a thread where OP specified we can make Pokemon worse someone gets on my case for discussing a perfectly logical type on Florges. :^(

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:12:36 No.19300006 Report

Quoted By: >>19300040

>>19299944
Not that guy, but here's this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:14:30 No.19300040 Report

Quoted By: >>19300076

>>19300006
"Die in a Fairy"?

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:16:51 No.19300076 Report

Quoted By: >>19300113 >>19300213

>>19300040
Well...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:19:47 No.19300113 Report

Quoted By: >>19300135 >>19300161

>>19300076
What the fuck did I just watch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:21:16 No.19300135 Report

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>>19300113
An accurate representation of the move Moonblast

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:23:02 No.19300161 Report

Quoted By: >>19300178

>>19300113
Stella's finisher from Dragon Quest Monsters: Battle Road Victory. The game is roughly comparable to the Dissidia: Final Fantasy series, but for a better SE JRPG series, with that webm being from what could be equated with a Limit Break.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:24:44 No.19300178 Report

Quoted By: >>19300210

>>19300161
>DQM
IS IT COMING TO THE US?
I love that series

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:28:18 No.19300210 Report

Quoted By: >>19300289 >>19300464

>>19300178
The Battle Road series isn't really part of the DQM series, despite the name. DQM:BRV is the only installment that wasn't an arcade game. It came out four years ago.
Japan only.
Everywhere in my folder, I see reminders of the joys that I will never personally experience.

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:28:28 No.19300213 Report

Quoted By: >>19300244

>>19300076

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:31:35 No.19300244 Report

Quoted By: >>19300298 >>19300464

>>19300213
Shit, guys, this isn't even the first time I've posted that to /vp/.
No one's said anything until now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:36:07 No.19300289 Report

Quoted By: >>19300393

>>19300210
is that Lisa Simpson being abducted by some sort of armored titan?

anyway I just did some Googling
BRV actually looks p lame despite being fairly pretty for a DQM game but on the other hand Terry's Wonderland isn't dead yet
get hyyyyyyyyyppppe I'd be so fucking stoked if it got a US release

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:37:09 No.19300298 Report

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>>19300244
>Orgodemir is busy boogieing!
top fucking kek

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:39:42 No.19300322 Report

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Grass/Steel

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:48:29 No.19300393 Report

Quoted By: >>19300424 >>19300551

>>19300289
Terry's Wonderland came out two years ago. That picture is from its sequel. It's Luca (Cobi for those who played DWM 2 in the West) listening to an injured Grand Estark.

I want to play those games so very, very badly. They're honestly the biggest reason why I bought a 3DS, even moreso than Pokemon X and Y. But no, Square Enix a faggots. We'll see the 3DS emulated before they release another Dragon Quest game outside of Japan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:51:58 No.19300424 Report

Quoted By: >>19300443 >>19300551

>>19300393
>Terry's Wonderland came out two years ago. That picture is from its sequel
I feel like I just woke up from a coma
so much good and bad news at once
thank you based anonymous herald of DQM knowledge

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:54:24 No.19300443 Report

Quoted By: >>19300479 >>19300551

>>19300424
There's still an English-language fansite for the Dragon Quest series that's roughly comparable to Pokemon's Serebii.net. In both a good and bad way.
http://www.woodus.com/den/home.php is our last bastion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:57:18 No.19300464 Report

Quoted By: >>19300479 >>19300545

>>19300210
>>19300244
I have no idea what's being talked about, but I'd sure like to. Where should I start?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 02:59:56 No.19300479 Report

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>>19300464
I posted a link in >>19300443. That's where you begin.
And maybe, once you and many others have been initiated, we can resurrect Dragon Quest in the West.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 03:06:49 No.19300545 Report

Quoted By: >>19300691

>>19300464
Emulate Dragon Warrior Monsters or DWM2
it's GBC/GBA

it's a really charming game in my opinion
you'll fucking love the breeding system omg
protip: Google as few things as you can and be high while you play it for maximum childish wonder mode

maybe the other dude will recommend starting with DQMJoker or DQMJ2 but when I tried Joker I found it really sterile and cold

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 03:07:31 No.19300551 Report

Quoted By: >>19300691

>>19300393
>>19300443
>>19300424
Coma is a fairly accurate analogy. I remember when Terry's Wonderland was announced and something to look forward too.

Seconding thanks, anonymous DQM herald. Glad to see based woodus still standing. Last time I went to visit was to check for scraps of possible news for DQM:J2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 03:19:34 No.19300691 Report

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>>19300551
That one did come out in the West. It sold poorly, since DQM:J2 Professional had come out in Japan six months prior, when there hadn't even been an announcement for the vanilla version's Western debut, and we all sorta assumed that we'd end up getting the enhanced version eventually.

It's if Diamond and Pearl hadn't been localized until after Platinum's Japanese launch, except even worse because Professional had over 100 more monsters.
>>19300545
I agree with you on Joker, but Joker 2 (yes, even the objectively inferior vanilla version) was pretty comfy. It helped that they hyped giant monsters in general for the entire game, instead of focusing on what felt to me like a Lucario parallel.

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 03:22:09 No.19300716 Report

Quoted By: >>19303449

Pinsir is now bug/ground

just had this argument in another thread actually

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 03:44:49 No.19300949 Report

Quoted By: >>19303435

Steel/Dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 10:05:42 No.19303399 Report

Quoted By: >>19303473

>Grass/Dragon Serperior
>Water/Fighting Samurott
>Fire/Dark Emboar
>Fire/Fighting Darmanitan
>Dragon/Fighting or Ground/Fighting Scrafty

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 10:08:53 No.19303411 Report

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>fire/grass gourgeist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 10:16:11 No.19303435 Report

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>>19300949
Dragon/Dark is perfect for edgygon

Its literally shadow the hedgehog in pokemon form

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 10:22:00 No.19303449 Report

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>>19300716
How about Bug/Fighting

It learns more fighting moves than Heracross itself, Heracross learns Brick Break, Counter, Revenge, Reversal, Seismic Toss and Close Combat

Pinsir learns Seismic Toss, Submission, Close Combat, Brick Break, Superpower, Vital Throw, Revenge, Storm Throw, Focus Blast etc., i can see gamefreak giving him Aura Sphere just to upset us

Both could learn Focus Punch via TM

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 10:29:08 No.19303468 Report

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>>19299504

Make him Fairy/Fighting.

Please, GameFreak - make it happen. He has no competitive function that can be useful even in a single format.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 10:30:33 No.19303473 Report

Quoted By: >>19308807

>>19303399
/dragon any starter ruins the type triangle tho

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 10:32:44 No.19303493 Report

Quoted By: >>19314425

>these guys weren't Fairy/Poison and Fairy/Ground
I get that Fairy was a new type and they didn't want to introduce lots of dual types, but there's too many pure fairies already.
Also if you're curious about ground for Slurpuff, with a few design tweaks (or using the shiny variant) they could have easily added mud cake to the mix.

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 19:37:31 No.19307287 Report

Quoted By: >>19307350

Fairy/Steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 19:43:08 No.19307350 Report

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>>19307287
Aw hell nah

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 19:43:57 No.19307361 Report

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Psychic/Normal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 19:45:02 No.19307377 Report

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>>19299883
i saw a phallus in ur mum

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 21:41:02 No.19308522 Report

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Make it a Fairy and give it a Fairy/Dragon evo.

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 21:52:56 No.19308624 Report

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>>19299647
>>19299667

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Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 22:03:16 No.19308745 Report

Quoted By: >>19314281

>Steel/Steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 22:09:42 No.19308807 Report

Quoted By: >>19309985

>>19303473
I still don't understand how Dragon ruins the type triangle for Starters when we had a starter that was part-Steel, one of the best defensive types around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2014 23:49:00 No.19309985 Report

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>>19308807
not to mention dark

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 May 2014 01:35:11 No.19311081 Report

Quoted By: >>19314350

>>19299504
There goes STAB Earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 May 2014 08:03:37 No.19314281 Report

Quoted By: >>19314316

>>19308745
>Giving it 4x weakness to fire/ground/fight

Good plan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 May 2014 08:09:37 No.19314306 Report

Quoted By:

>>19299730
>flying
>common coverage move

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 May 2014 08:11:29 No.19314316 Report

Quoted By:

>>19314281
>not wanting a double weakness and 11 double resists
>not wanting 80 bp bullet punch and 180 bp meteor mash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 May 2014 08:19:50 No.19314350 Report

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>>19311081
>What is No Guard with Dynamic Punch and Stone Edge?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 May 2014 08:40:04 No.19314425 Report

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>>19303493
I'd be down for Fairy/Poison Aromatisse, but Slurpuff doesn't need any change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 May 2014 08:53:09 No.19314475 Report

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>>19299730
>>19299775
And don't forget that with grass, it will wall garchomp sets slightly better (depending on what coverage they're carrying)

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