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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 07:58:51 No.19451417 View View Reply Original Report

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Smogon tier update:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/smogon-usage-based-tier-update-june-2014.3508291/

Gardevoir, manectric, medicham, quagsire, scolipede, smeargle, and vaporeon are now OU
Alakazam, Blissey, Goodra, Infernape, Lucario, Manaphy, and volcarona are now UU

Sableye is now UU
Jolteon is now RU

Discuss

>LOL U PLAY SMOGON XD XD
Fuck off and don't post if you don't like smogon tiers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:03:41 No.19451436 Report

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>Blissey
>UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:04:05 No.19451439 Report

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>>19451417
>Alakazam, blisse,goodra, volcarona
About time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:06:16 No.19451447 Report

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>>19451417

tiers r 4 queers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:08:10 No.19451458 Report

Quoted By: >>19451934 >>19453270 >>19453318

don't forget that shuckle, doublade, durant and virizion are now ru

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:17:10 No.19451502 Report

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>smeargle OU
I want baton pass to leave

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:21:35 No.19451526 Report

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>Scolipede, Smeargle, and Vaporeon are now OU

Yep, Baton Pass is getting dealt with soon.

3480 2540 3227

3480 2540 3227 Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:24:25 No.19451538 Report

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>Protect
>Spore
>Geomancy
>Baton Pass

This shit is glorious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:25:37 No.19451543 Report

Quoted By: >>19451662 >>19452452 >>19452638

I've used the current OU suspect test to test out a new team, which ended up bringing a hybrid VoltTurn/Fantasy Core/Deosharp team.

And I must say Mega Manectric with Scarf Lando is amazing. My current record in the suspect test is 15-6. One of the wins was against a battler with Victory Road priveledges (hue).

Niggas don't want M-Manny taking up their mega slot when it's the best Electric type in OU right now. It's checklist is monstrous: M-Mawile, Greninja, Talonflame, M-Pinsir, Birdspam in general, M-Gyarados, Azumarill, the list goes on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:32:16 No.19451572 Report

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>>19451526
scolipede deserves to be ou retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:33:56 No.19451579 Report

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>>19451417
Does this mean based Vaporeon joins Gengar as a all-gen OUer? Or did its brief stay in UU cost it the throne?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:33:58 No.19451580 Report

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>vaporeon

I know its only there because of baton pass but as a constant MVP on my team as a toxic/scald wall I have always loved it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:35:04 No.19451587 Report

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>>19451579
uu in gen 1. bl in gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:36:54 No.19451594 Report

Quoted By: >>19451603 >>19451610 >>19453105

Why is Florges so good in UU? Never used her before, pls explain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:38:47 No.19451603 Report

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>>19451594
because of its huge special bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:40:27 No.19451610 Report

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>>19451594
Huge special bulk, but hey blissey so prepare your anus for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:40:49 No.19451611 Report

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>>19451603
>>19451610
Obviously, but what moves she runs? And what spread? Thats what i wanna know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:41:30 No.19451614 Report

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>>19451611
Cleric.

Wish, aromatherapy, protect, moonblast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:41:49 No.19451617 Report

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>>19451611
Wish, Protect, Moonblast, Toxic/Aromatherapy

what else would it do? I guess there's the odd Calm Mind set, but it's not that good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:43:06 No.19451625 Report

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>>19451610
Florges has a decent spa and better typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:45:00 No.19451630 Report

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>>19451625
Blissey has even more bulk. Why isn't Florges used in OU? Chansey/Sylveon are better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 08:49:35 No.19451662 Report

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>>19451543
I love thunderdoge, easily one of the most underrated megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:02:40 No.19451727 Report

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>>19451614
>>19451617
yall niggas need BOOM BOOM

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:08:23 No.19451751 Report

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>>19451417
It's hard to imagine Volcarona in UU, usually when you don't have a rock move and it Quiver Dances it's over. Anyway, why is regular Deoxys still in Ubers? With megas everywhere its power fits for OU now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:13:52 No.19451772 Report

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>>19451751
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/xy-ou-ban-of-blaziken-and-deoxys-n.3492497/
they put it in ou for like a week but it wrecked too much shit

Serena 3351 4082 8975

Serena 3351 4082 8975 Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:13:59 No.19451774 Report

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>>19451751
Smogon prefers to ban everything before unbanning things

Ryan/Bishop 3840-7025-7759 [Phanpy, Gastrodon, Marowak]

Ryan/Bishop 3840-7025-7759 [Phanpy, Gastrodon, Marowak] Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:42:07 No.19451896 Report

Quoted By: >>19451903 >>19451904

>>19451417
>Gardevoir
Really? OU? I thought only waifu fags legitimately ran one on a team, much less enough to bump up to OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:45:10 No.19451903 Report

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>>19451896
Stats are only counted from those with a moderately high rating, gardevoir is usable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:45:54 No.19451904 Report

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>>19451896
100 base speed as a mega, insane Sp.attack, good bulk and fairy is one of the best typings, not to mention its movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:48:29 No.19451911 Report

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>>19451417
>Smeargle in OU
Is Baton Pass really that relevant now?
I never really thought it was a threat back in Gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:53:37 No.19451924 Report

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>>19451630
Blissey has way more bulk than is needed. Florges isn't ou because Sylveon is better in just about every way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:56:30 No.19451930 Report

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>>19451911
BP wasn't as relevant because speed boost scolipede didn't exist and the meta was full of SPECS RAIN HYDRO PUMP LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:57:07 No.19451932 Report

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>>19451904
>good bulk

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:57:08 No.19451933 Report

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If Manectric is OU, will Jolteon become UU again as the single fastest pure electric type available to them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:57:09 No.19451934 Report

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>>19451458
NU confirmed for even more shit than it was before

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:58:11 No.19451939 Report

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>>19451933
No because Jolteon already fills that role in RU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:58:40 No.19451941 Report

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>>19451933
jolteon is ru now. jolteon is basically a shittier raikou. I have no idea why jolteon was ou last gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 09:59:48 No.19451944 Report

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>>19451417
Manaphy was banned from UU before it rose to OU, so it is BL again after the drop until UU gets around to retest it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 10:03:17 No.19451956 Report

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>>19451941
Probably because jolteon was one of the only good thunder spammers that weren't uber in weather wars: the meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 10:04:10 No.19451958 Report

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>>19451933
Jolteon was pretty great last gen, because of Thunder in rain and speedcreep. It was probably one of the best mons to deal with dragons pressing muh button, but now that fairy's here, it's not really so relevant anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 10:04:10 No.19451959 Report

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>>19451939
>>19451941
I meant that Jolteon might reemerge as it was previously outclassed by Manectric, which is now banned. But you're probably right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 10:08:26 No.19451969 Report

Quoted By: >>19451974

Megazam is cool as fuck in UU

>Kill their scarfer
>Set up a calm mind or two on their special wall (especially blissey which is everywhere on the low ladder now)
>Click psyshock
>Win

You can do the same with regular LO Zam, but the mega is fast as fuck and outspeeds some of the slower scarfers even

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 10:09:20 No.19451971 Report

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>>19451417
The homie Jolteon's in RU; Say it ain't so. ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 10:11:01 No.19451974 Report

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>>19451969
>Blissey staying in on Alakazam for any purpose other than to Thunder Wave it and get the fuck out
what kind of retards are you playing against if they're actually letting you set up while they do fuckall about it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 10:21:09 No.19452006 Report

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>>19451974
Not limited to blissey, zam doesn't give a fuck about any wall or tank who uses special attacks since he can get to +1 and blow through most of the tier with little to no prior damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 10:41:25 No.19452044 Report

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>>19451772
>They said Slowbro wouldn't be viable defensively
>Funbro became such a problem that they had to enact a new clause just to keep people from trolling showdown with it.
Not that I'm particularly anti-smogon, but that's pretty fucking hilarious in hindsight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 10:51:40 No.19452064 Report

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>>19452044
it wasn't because of Slowbro though, people started finding other ways to troll with endless battles which is why there needed to be a clause

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 10:53:11 No.19452068 Report

Quoted By: >>19454957

>>19452064
slowbro was the simplest and the best, nearly none of the others could do it as reliably or as effectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 10:56:31 No.19452070 Report

Quoted By: >>19452085

Is NU out of Alpha yet and were is Sawk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 11:02:00 No.19452075 Report

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>Jolteon is now RU
Yes. This pleases Gaga

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 11:07:43 No.19452085 Report

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>>19452070
it is called nu beta now and sawk is nu

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 11:12:21 No.19452094 Report

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>>19452085
>sawk is nu
Sawk cannot stay in NU this gen too man.

I refuse to accept it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 11:14:37 No.19452104 Report

Quoted By: >>19452469

>>19452094
He won't stay. The only thing that stopped him (Mandibuzz) isn't there anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 11:15:13 No.19452105 Report

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>>19452094
Better be A rank in NU than D rank in RU
A rank in NU means he will be viable in NU teams
D rank in RU means that he's useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 11:16:00 No.19452107 Report

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>>19452094
gallade unfortunately almost completely outclasses sawk so it either has to be broken in nu or shit in ru

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 11:17:15 No.19452114 Report

Quoted By: >>19452119 >>19452208

>>19452107
Wait what
Gallade is good at something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 11:18:29 No.19452119 Report

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>>19452114
gallade is currently a- rank in ru

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 11:18:33 No.19452120 Report

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>>19451417
>Vaporeon is OU
>Blissey is UU
no thanks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 11:22:09 No.19452129 Report

Quoted By: >>19452132

>mfw verlisify was right
Say what you want, but you have to admit, Smogon is fucking retarded with banning shit and calling it "official". And now they're declaring that overcentralization isn't a bad thing. They're fine with a shit metagame because hey, fun is a buzzword. If you don't believe me, check out this thread.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/swagplay-evaluating-potential-bans-basic-definition-of-uncompetitive-in-op.3500620/
In which Haunter took scrubs getting beat by a completely counterable strategy as pretext for helping out HO, his favorite playstyle. But Smogonbeetle, Smogonsword, Smogonbird and Muhhazards-D don't get banned because using cheap shit gets them free wins and preserves their ladder rank.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 11:23:24 No.19452132 Report

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>>19452129
Now I'm hungry

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 11:45:37 No.19452208 Report

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>>19452114
I can't remember the last time I saw Gallade on the ladder, probably because it doesn't threaten my team at all and every time I come up against one it does nothing and then dies

I guess now that medi's gone it's the best psychic/fighting in the tier but it's not going on any of my teams any time soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 11:50:17 No.19452230 Report

Quoted By: >>19452439

So now BP is getting banned because smogoners in power cant use their precious ground types against them?

Seriously wtf?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 12:04:03 No.19452285 Report

Quoted By: >>19452318 >>19457599

Why is Chesnaught still UU? He's balanced enough for RU. One flying type move and he's dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 12:11:18 No.19452318 Report

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>>19452285
>has a 4x weakness to flying therefore should be ru

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 12:39:55 No.19452406 Report

Quoted By: >>19452435 >>19457023

>>19451417
>Infernape is UU
whichever anon who claimed infernape to be the best wallbreaker of all time, and would never drop while gloating about my precious starmie dropping to uu

i hope you see this. i hope you see this and choke, you faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 12:46:41 No.19452435 Report

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>>19452406
Back on Gen 4 he indeed was.

But it's a brand new world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 12:47:45 No.19452439 Report

Quoted By: >>19452520 >>19452701

>>19452230
They want to ban Confusion Ray and Swagger.

At this point Smogon will ban everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 12:52:24 No.19452452 Report

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>>19451543
It's amazing how pivoty M-Manectric is. I got one in a randbat together with a Greninja that has U-Turn and it always keeps your opponent on his toes because you will almost always get switch initiative and the Intimidate really keeps physical attackers at bay

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 12:55:53 No.19452461 Report

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Lucario + Infernape Offense Core

Go on, try to guess what sets they're running.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 12:58:00 No.19452469 Report

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>>19452104
>The only thing that stopped him (Mandibuzz)
pls. It wasn't just Mandibuzz
The buff to Knock Off allows him to wreck his other counter, Eviolite Misdreavus

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 12:58:24 No.19452472 Report

Quoted By: >>19452486 >>19452495

>dragon type is too strong, we must nerf it
>introduce a type that counters dragon, creating another strong type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:02:09 No.19452486 Report

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>>19452472
Hurr, what did you want they to do, BUFF ice, grass and maybe bug?
/sarcasm

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:03:10 No.19452491 Report

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Will Deoxys-S and Deoxys-D ever be suspected?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:04:22 No.19452495 Report

Quoted By: >>19452501

>>19452472
Fairy is not that strong.

But GF really doesnt know how to do ice types. They continue creating defensive, slow ice types instead of creating a agile and strong ice type. Imagine a ice type with 110/115/110 offenses? Or with a good move pool?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:05:17 No.19452501 Report

Quoted By: >>19452519

>>19452495
I thought that's why Weavile was there
>good move pool
Oh nevermind

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:10:20 No.19452519 Report

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>>19452501
Knock Off and Icicle Crash gave it some good STABs, its just that he can't use them together until ORAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:10:24 No.19452520 Report

Quoted By: >>19452550

>>19452439

They already banned Swagger, Not because of how "luck-based" it is, no matter what Smogon says, but because it was broken. You could make a team with

>Liepard
>Thundurus
>Klefki
>Ditto
>Chansey killer
>Deoxys-D

And climb up the latter with zero effort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:16:57 No.19452550 Report

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>>19452520
Bans are getting more complex to the point that soon in order to play the game you need to be a lawyer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:28:27 No.19452612 Report

Quoted By: >>19452637

So in OU, UU, RU, NU and LC, which at currently the best Mons? I know pawniard and misdreavus for LC, sawk for nu, what about the higher tiers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:29:29 No.19452619 Report

Quoted By: >>19452645

>>19452550
banning a move isn't complex..

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:32:21 No.19452637 Report

Quoted By: >>19452654 >>19452683 >>19452780 >>19452807

>>19452612
this is the s rank for every tier. nu doesn't have a viability ranking yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:32:24 No.19452638 Report

Quoted By: >>19452658 >>19452661

>>19451543
>Fantasy Core
is this a nickname for skarmbliss? it sounds like a music genre

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:33:27 No.19452645 Report

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>>19452619
there are planning to do moveset bans with the BP situation

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:34:44 No.19452654 Report

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>>19452637
>Gengar
GF really has a fetish for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:35:24 No.19452658 Report

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>>19452638
dragon/steel/fairy core, though I hate the name

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:36:39 No.19452661 Report

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>>19452638
It's a Fairy/Dragon/Steel core.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:42:47 No.19452683 Report

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>>19452637
>M-Gengar is Ubers S
How broken is that thing?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:44:05 No.19452690 Report

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>Blissey, Lucario, Manaphy and Volcarona in UU

I'm kinda glad I hardly play Pokemon anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:46:34 No.19452701 Report

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>>19452439
>At this point Smogon will ban everything
except Deoxys and the genies, because the swagger and BP tests were just cynical distractions from the real problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:47:53 No.19452711 Report

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>>19451974
>Blissey staying in on Alakazam for any purpose other than to Thunder Wave it and get the fuck out
>Alakazam traced foe's Blissey's Natural Cure!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:49:02 No.19452719 Report

Quoted By: >>19452733

;^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:50:21 No.19452728 Report

Quoted By: >>19452753

>Alomomola is RU
Damn, that was my favourite Wish user in NU. Nearly every team used it as a really decent physical wall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:51:11 No.19452733 Report

Quoted By: >>19452751 >>19452761 >>19452767

>>19452719
you should add "Someone posts the Smogon Thread Shitpost Bingo Card" somewhere on there

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:52:56 No.19452751 Report

Quoted By: >>19452761 >>19452767

>>19452733
#rekt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:53:03 No.19452753 Report

Quoted By: >>19452843

>>19452728
And its getting slowly recognized better, that's good r-right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:53:08 No.19452754 Report

Quoted By: >>19452762 >>19452776

>>19451417

>Scolipede
>Smeargle
>Vaporeon
>now OU

If this isn't more evidence of why Baton Pass should be BTFO, I don't know what else is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:54:10 No.19452761 Report

Quoted By: >>19452767

>>19452733
>>19452751
ebin samefag :^DDDDDD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:54:15 No.19452762 Report

Quoted By: >>19452792

>>19452754
but scolipede has a sanic hazard setter set and a sanic cleaner set. He deserves to be ou for non bp reasons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:55:11 No.19452767 Report

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>>19452733
>>19452751
>>19452761
ebin samefag :^DDDDDD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:56:32 No.19452776 Report

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>>19452754
i wouldn't mind having BP if it were for Scolipede and Vaporeon both deserves it, but then that Gimmicky/bullshitmon comes arround and i totally get it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:57:16 No.19452780 Report

Quoted By: >>19452796

>>19452637
>you can literally make an ou team out of five S-ranks and bisharp
welp, we finally have a meta shittier than weather wars. we thought it would never happen but here you go

thanks for reminding me why I quit laddering

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:58:32 No.19452792 Report

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>>19452762

It's not Scolipede, it's Scolipede coming back in with the other 2 at the same time that's damning. I have no issue with SB/BP Scolipede as long as it's without it's BP friends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 13:59:18 No.19452796 Report

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>>19452780
>I wasn't getting enough attention in my own thread ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:01:05 No.19452807 Report

Quoted By: >>19452811 >>19452821 >>19452835 >>19452855 >>19454680

>>19452637
I'm a complete competitive newfag, but how's Kyogre so high? Is it really that good?

Serena 3351 4082 8975

Serena 3351 4082 8975 Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:02:08 No.19452811 Report

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>>19452807
It can learn Thunder

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:03:58 No.19452821 Report

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>>19452807
>the #1 most used pokemon in Ubers for over a decade until Xerneas came along
Nah, it's shit mate.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:04:13 No.19452823 Report

Quoted By: >>19457599

>medicham and quagsire in OU
>UU now slowly becoming fighting type: tier
The fuck is this bullshit?
>>19452119
What does Gallade do anyways to get that high? Is it still the same sets?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:05:17 No.19452835 Report

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>>19452807
rain boosted water spout coming off 150 special attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:06:25 No.19452843 Report

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>>19452753
But I want to use my Tangela, Torkoal, Alomomola Fuck-You-Physical-Attackers core.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:07:21 No.19452852 Report

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>>19452683
Perish Trapping

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:07:37 No.19452855 Report

Quoted By: >>19452896

>>19452807
It's not. It can be countered by Gastrodon and Lanturn, so it's actually shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:13:15 No.19452896 Report

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>>19452855
Don't forget Chinchou and Shedinja.
Kyogre is truly NU garbage.

Dakoda 5343-9188-5959

Dakoda 5343-9188-5959 Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:44:28 No.19453105 Report

Quoted By: >>19453125

>>19451594
It shits on all Hydriegon as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:47:19 No.19453124 Report

Quoted By: >>19453192

Now with Lucario and Infernape in UU, there's no more reason for Weavile being BL right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:47:24 No.19453125 Report

Quoted By: >>19453184

>>19453105
not if that hydreigon is a physical witch in UU he can pull it off

Dakoda 5343-9188-5959

Dakoda 5343-9188-5959 Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:56:54 No.19453184 Report

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>>19453125
Very true but Specs Hydra is the best wallbreaker in UU, and was banned because of it until Florges dropped

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 14:58:04 No.19453192 Report

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>>19453124
There was no real reason of him being BL in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 15:02:46 No.19453213 Report

Quoted By: >>19453219 >>19453240

I like how Aegislash and Talonflame are kicking all of the fighting types out of OU.

>Alakazam, Volcorona, Blissey and Manaphy also dropped

UU confirmed washed-up celebrity tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 15:04:56 No.19453219 Report

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>>19453213
>UU confirmed washed-up celebrity tier
that's what it's always been really, you can never fit every good Pokemon in OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 15:07:51 No.19453240 Report

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>>19453213
Well, at least maybe Crawdaunt, Weavile, and Magnezone may finally get unbanned

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 15:09:47 No.19453254 Report

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>>19451417
Alakazam, Blissey, Goodra, Infernape, Lucario, Manaphy, and volcarona are now UU

Here we have a list of the best pokemon in UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 15:12:02 No.19453270 Report

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>>19451458
>Doublade ru
Finally! I really hated it in NU.
>Shuckle ru
My bro. Too bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 15:18:56 No.19453318 Report

Quoted By: >>19453341

>>19451458
Surprised how Durant even fell to NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 15:21:55 No.19453341 Report

Quoted By: >>19454568

>>19453318
it got overshadowed by Cobalion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 18:08:21 No.19454568 Report

Quoted By:

>>19453341
>durant
>cobalion
wot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 18:17:28 No.19454663 Report

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>Volcarona in UU
>No viable unaware pokemon in UU can wall it
>Only Blissey and Florges can stand up to it, but are only gonna become setup fodder
>wrecks literally everything at +1 and sets up easily on the rest

I honestly can't wait to use Volcarona in UU so I can sweep entire teams. But then again, its probably gonna get kicked to BL so I better enjoy it while it lasts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 18:19:21 No.19454680 Report

Quoted By: >>19457099

>>19452807
Water Spout from 150 Special Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 18:51:33 No.19454957 Report

Quoted By:

>>19452068
Blissey did it better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:22:04 No.19457023 Report

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>>19452406

I remember that thread. That dude was such an idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:26:24 No.19457087 Report

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>charizard x/y broken by design because you have to gamble which will come out
>not strong enough to live in ubers so it will stay ou

just shoot me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:27:13 No.19457099 Report

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>>19454680
>Priority Move
>Water Spout 1 Base Damage

Why would anyone run that shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:27:35 No.19457108 Report

Quoted By: >>19457160 >>19457409

Why/how are either deoxys S tier in OU?

They are both total gimmicks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:31:53 No.19457160 Report

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>>19457108
Deo-d can get hazards down better than anyone else, deo-s can do similar or be an amazing cleaner/revenge killer with solid coverage and the ability to outspeed most scarfers while holding a LO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:38:45 No.19457232 Report

Quoted By:

>>19451417
>Luvario
>UU
Well this is awkward.Does that mean half of UU is now demoted to NU as well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:41:17 No.19457256 Report

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I'm here, I don't like yo' tiers, and I'll be going now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:46:19 No.19457299 Report

Quoted By: >>19457334

What's the normal moveset for. M-Thunderdoge

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:49:04 No.19457334 Report

Quoted By: >>19457349

>>19457299
volt switch/thunder bolt/HP ice/overheat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:50:07 No.19457349 Report

Quoted By: >>19457390

>>19457334
Thanks bro.

Modest or timid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:53:17 No.19457390 Report

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>>19457349
timid typically, you can outspeed +1 neutral natured base 85 and less (DD dragonite and gyarados) and invested base 120+ (greninja, talonflame using flare blitz).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:54:19 No.19457409 Report

Quoted By: >>19457424

>>19457108
nigger you kidding me, the deoxys forms run OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:55:42 No.19457424 Report

Quoted By: >>19457492

>>19457409
I'm a 1600 babby and NEVER see deoxys. D is absolutely no problem for my team and S seems like it would go 1-1 at best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 23:01:45 No.19457492 Report

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>>19457424
Deo-D at least is everywhere above 1700. I swear I saw FIVE FUCKING DEOSHARP TEAMS IN A ROW one night of laddering. Right now I'm just saying fuck it and deciding to run sand rush Excadrill and Latias at the same time just for those fuckers. I hope they nerf BP teams as soon as possible so we can get to suspecting Deo-D, because holy shit it's gay as fuck

Sushi

Sushi Mon 02 Jun 2014 23:10:20 No.19457599 Report

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>>19451958
How did it stop Dragons?
I can think of 5 other pokemon who kill dragons better
>>19452285
Smogon and I are waiting for heonn move tutors to make him into a god
>>19452823
You're right. who the fuck invited megacham

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