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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 20:47:42 No.19456062 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19456857 >>19456941 >>19458917 >>19473192 >>19475970

Why are they so Hoenn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 20:50:43 No.19456091 Report

Quoted By: >>19457289

They sure as hell don't appear in Johto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 20:51:53 No.19456104 Report

Quoted By: >>19456116

You're saying you never hunted for Skarmory in the route south of Blackthorn in GSC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 20:52:43 No.19456113 Report

Quoted By: >>19456127 >>19456950 >>19457207 >>19457635 >>19459001 >>19460088

I love the concept of Macargo. Shame he's literally one of the worst Pokemon ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 20:53:03 No.19456116 Report

Quoted By: >>19456128 >>19456731 >>19458730

>>19456104
Skarmory a shit in game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 20:54:13 No.19456127 Report

Quoted By: >>19457207

>>19456113
W-well i-it counters Talonflame at least but gets destroyed by everything else ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 20:54:14 No.19456128 Report

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>>19456116
Sure but you still need to complete your pokedex, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 21:16:36 No.19456377 Report

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Because you didn't bother to play the game properly as a kid
Skarmory I can understand since it was version exclusive but there's no excuse for Slugma and Magcargo, Blaine even uses the latter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 21:48:14 No.19456731 Report

Quoted By: >>19457310

>>19456116
I did an all flying run of X, Skarmory was not shit, taunt/stealth rock/spikes is never shit, that said Gliscor was underwhelming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:01:25 No.19456857 Report

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>>19456062
Why are you so on drugs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:12:27 No.19456941 Report

Quoted By: >>19456955 >>19457335 >>19457337 >>19457356

>>19456062
Because Gen 2 had some questionable pokemon distribution. Slugma and Magcargo for instance can only be found in Kanto. No dark types (except Umbreon) can be found before postgame. And so on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:14:18 No.19456950 Report

Quoted By: >>19456964

>>19456113
Macargo and Slugma are my favorite shitmons.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:15:10 No.19456955 Report

Quoted By: >>19462355 >>19462488

>>19456941
>No dark types (except Umbreon) can be found before postgame

HG/SS didn't even try to fix this. If you wanted to nerf Psychic GF why not give the player a goddamn chance to use the type that's supposed to before they already have a full team?

What also sucks is how ingame in Gen II, the only Darks worth using are Tyranitar and Houndoom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:16:39 No.19456964 Report

Quoted By: >>19457219 >>19457408

>>19456950
>calling a Pokemon shitmon just because has bad stats

>>>/vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:35:50 No.19457207 Report

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>>19456113
>>19456127
I love it too, there must be something for which he's good
I think I'll try later to get a proper use out of him
I've never given up when it's about making a good competitive mon out of bad stats/typing/set

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:37:17 No.19457219 Report

Quoted By: >>19458209

>>19456964
It's a shitmon because everything about it is bad, not just stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:45:16 No.19457289 Report

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>>19456091
Skarmory does, though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:47:15 No.19457310 Report

Quoted By: >>19457505 >>19472727

>>19456731
>using entry hazards in-game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:49:04 No.19457335 Report

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>>19456941
Am I the only one who finds it stupid that Magcargo got such a late evolution solely because it was so late in GSC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:49:04 No.19457337 Report

Quoted By: >>19457428

>>19456941

Can't you find Murkrow near the Ghost gym, or am I confusing reality with the anime?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:50:45 No.19457356 Report

Quoted By: >>19462401

>>19456941
You are now aware that Slugma are found on that patch of grass in cycling road because they were hurled there by Cinnabar's Volcano Eruption

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:54:18 No.19457408 Report

Quoted By: >>19457494 >>19457635 >>19458389

>>19456964
Magcargo is straight horrible no matter how you slice it.

>Way too late evolution to take advantage of.
>Movepool is small, sans screens and Shell Smash
>Other Pokemon you can catch in the exact same place as Slugma normally beat it easily
>Even after damage split, it never got very many Rock moves to make great use of.
>If you hug it, you fry
>If you let it out in the house, you must call a repairman for floor damage

Being lava is suffering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 22:56:05 No.19457428 Report

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>>19457337
I'm pretty sure Murkrow is found only in the same spot as Houndour, only during the night just outside Saffron.

I like to think they put them there just to answer gripes about RBY Sabrina.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 23:01:51 No.19457494 Report

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>>19457408
>If you let it out in the house, you must call a repairman for floor damage

Don't forget that it also must move around 24/7 or it dies, so you can't even designate a fireproof spot for one unless it's large.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 23:02:35 No.19457505 Report

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>>19457310
Smogon is one hell of a drug. Once they get hooked, some people just can't help it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jun 2014 23:13:25 No.19457635 Report

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>>19456113
You can shell smash at least? Also, Magcargo is obtainable within every gen 3 game including the Orre ones. I'm pretty sure it's alone in that distinction.

>>19457408
>tfw it's one of your favorite Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 00:06:50 No.19458209 Report

Quoted By: >>19458235

>>19457219
>It's a shitmon because everything about it is bad, not just stats.
>Magma Armor and Flame Body
>being shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 00:09:29 No.19458235 Report

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>>19458209
So it's just a Talonflame you can't teach Fly to. Is that it? Yeah it's shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 00:17:05 No.19458312 Report

Quoted By: >>19458346

Because Gen 2 did a terrible job of actually showing you its new Pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 00:20:04 No.19458346 Report

Quoted By: >>19458380 >>19458385 >>19458390

>>19458312
>pls spoonfeed me all the new pokemon in trainer and gym battles so I don't have any surprises to find

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 00:22:51 No.19458380 Report

Quoted By: >>19458530 >>19459128

>>19458346
yeah, it was so awesome and hardcore that one of the big features of the game was 2 new types, but only one dark type is available in the 1st half of the game, and the only steel types are a bird that you cant get till the 8th badge, a bug that is awful ingame, and a retyped gen 1 poke.
Fucking awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 00:23:35 No.19458385 Report

Quoted By: >>19458694

>>19458346

>defending shitty game design choices

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 00:23:54 No.19458389 Report

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>>19457408
works fine for me in game

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 00:24:01 No.19458390 Report

Quoted By: >>19458694

>>19458346
This is the most retarded post I've read on /vp/ all day. Congratulations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 00:35:28 No.19458530 Report

Quoted By: >>19458648

>>19458380

What about Scizor and Steelix?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 00:47:19 No.19458648 Report

Quoted By: >>19458692 >>19472886

>>19458530
Aren't available till after the elite four, metal coat is given on the SS anne

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 00:51:26 No.19458692 Report

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>>19458648

Right, forgot that. It's been a while since I played GSC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 00:51:33 No.19458694 Report

Quoted By: >>19462321 >>19462361 >>19471983

>>19458390
>>19458385
>implying thats not exactly what you wanted like in gen IV

out of the 100 pokemon added (barring celebi), this is how many are available after e4 only
>misdreavus
>larvitar/pupitar/tyranitar
>sneasel
>slugma
>houndour
>blissey?? I don't even know for sure
>steelix
>scizor

Did I miss any? They saved a mere 10% of the new pokemon for postgame, cry more. I think its great that the player can still find new pokemon throughout the post game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 00:54:57 No.19458730 Report

Quoted By: >>19460149

>>19456116

Not using ToxStall/Spikes/Sneaky Pebbles strats

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 01:08:24 No.19458858 Report

Quoted By: >>19458975

holy fuck I though slugma was from gen 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 01:13:38 No.19458909 Report

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i got the games in a weird order and didn't use the internet much, i have an excuse
yellow, ruby, sapphire, emerald, diamond, pearl, gold, heart gold, platinum, white, white 2, X

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 01:14:40 No.19458917 Report

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>>19456062
Because hoennbabies didn't get a totally exclusive regionaldex like unovasperms

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 01:20:21 No.19458964 Report

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BTW Skarm is really good ingame. At least gen 2 and 3. Haven't tried it in later gens. But it is basically indestructible even underleveled due to its million resists.Perfect for toxic stalling beeg threats or revive spam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 01:22:03 No.19458975 Report

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>>19458858
WHOA cp on /vp/!!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 01:24:48 No.19459001 Report

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>>19456113
Well that's disappointing. I went out of my way to find a slugma so I could add Macargo to this ire type team I was making.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 01:34:38 No.19459128 Report

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>>19458380
Don't forget that Skarmory was silver-exclusive, too, so half of us didn't even get that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 02:44:00 No.19460088 Report

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>>19456113
I got swept in the Maison once by a shell smash macargo, I think he had brightpowder too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 02:48:06 No.19460149 Report

Quoted By: >>19462465

>>19458730
Works for a battle with someone, but in-game is all about going through a long series of easy battles without running out of pp/wearing down hp
Shitmons with diverse damaging movepools

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 03:23:18 No.19460558 Report

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>defensive Pokémon
>4x weak to most common special type
>4x weak to one of the most spammable and widely distributed physical attacks in the game
suffering
Stockpile/Recover is nice though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 06:08:56 No.19462321 Report

Quoted By: >>19462580

>>19458694
I completely forgot Tyranitar was Gen II

I think I only ever found it for the first time in RSE

I was young

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 06:13:21 No.19462355 Report

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>>19456955
That's true but HGSS have easy in-game so dark type moves are enough to kill psychic mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 06:14:44 No.19462361 Report

Quoted By: >>19472000

>>19458694
>literally every Dark pokemon except Umbreon
>almost every Steel pokemon
Great way to show off new types

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 06:20:36 No.19462401 Report

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>>19457356
Good God.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 06:28:06 No.19462465 Report

Quoted By: >>19470490 >>19475970

>>19460149
This is really the worst fault of Pokemon's gameplay - PP. Its inclusion changes the game from one where you want to fight (read: to play the game) to one where you want to avoid fights (read: to not play the game.)

And they aren't about to fix it in a series that took 18 years to add diagonal movement. Even if they don't remove the mechanic entirely, it'd be nice if I could, y'know, purchase Ethers at the pokemart or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 06:32:01 No.19462488 Report

Quoted By: >>19462503

>>19456955
>HG/SS didn't even try to fix this

you can catch Murkrow and Larvitar in the Safari Zone before post-game...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 06:34:22 No.19462503 Report

Quoted By: >>19462518

>>19462488
After waiting for how long? It takes like 3 months real time to get Gible, and you can't even skip the clock forward because it just resets the counter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 06:37:44 No.19462518 Report

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>>19462503
you can find Murkrow in the swamp, it really takes no time to find it... more to catch it, same thing with Larvitar in the Mountain area

http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/safarizone.shtml

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 06:46:57 No.19462580 Report

Quoted By: >>19472706 >>19476007

>>19462321
Tyranitar line wasn't in RS...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 07:19:01 No.19462828 Report

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I actually used a Macargo in Sapphire, Swept through the Elite 4 with my bro Swampert, absolutely decimated Sidney and Steven

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 13:12:42 No.19464406 Report

Quoted By: >>19472758

I'm actually surprised that a lot of people didn't find Macargo in GBC.

However, I really thought Skarmory was a gen III Pokémon until someone on /vp/ pointed it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 16:44:06 No.19466112 Report

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Corsola is the worst offender here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jun 2014 23:11:48 No.19470490 Report

Quoted By:

>>19462465
just grow sum leppa berries

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 01:09:05 No.19471983 Report

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>>19458694
on another note, this settles why Karen doesn't use tyranitar (besides being too powerful). only the champs can enter mt. silver, right? she would have never seen a larvitar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 01:10:40 No.19472000 Report

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>>19462361
>shoving a new type in everyone's faces
>guys the new type is here, it's queer, get used to it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 02:03:08 No.19472706 Report

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>>19462580
Maybe he got it from a friend who got it in FR/LG

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 02:04:25 No.19472727 Report

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>>19457310
I kept TSpikes on my Skorupi during my XY nuzlocke. Came in handy a lot (though that was probably because my team somehow ended up almost entirely stall)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 02:06:45 No.19472758 Report

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>>19464406
Were there no trainers with a Skarmory?

Did you have Gold?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 02:17:25 No.19472886 Report

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>>19458648
You can get Thief in the main storyline and Magnemite carry Metal Coat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 02:42:22 No.19473192 Report

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>>19456062
Yeah, if you are a hoennbaby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 03:18:24 No.19473532 Report

Quoted By: >>19473822

Is Magcargo even good on a Trick Room team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 03:42:45 No.19473822 Report

Quoted By: >>19474014

>>19473532
No, it a horrible Pokemon even in NU, we really need a PU tier since a lot of the new NU mons are actually pretty decent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 04:02:00 No.19474014 Report

Quoted By: >>19474062

>>19473822
PU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 04:06:43 No.19474062 Report

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>>19474014
Poorly Used. Basically the shitmons of the shitmons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 04:08:55 No.19474089 Report

Quoted By: >>19477332

Macargo was my egg hatching bro in gen 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 07:58:24 No.19475970 Report

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>>19456062
I completely agree. There are still times I forget they didn't debut in Gen III and don't originate from northwest Hoenn.

>>19462465
I am conflicted about this. For one, PP helps balance out moves in battle, which makes their total exclusion not good at all.

On the other hand, I completely agree that it's stupid to put such a break to gameplay when you have to mow down an endless stream of random encounters. You'll end up getting tired of them instead of enjoying them.

A solution would be to fill them up after each battle, but it feels even more casualizing than the new Exp. Share, so I don't fucking know what to think about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 08:06:39 No.19476007 Report

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>>19462580
Maybe he's confused with Colosseum, given that it also gave you the "similar" Metagross and Salamence, that are actually from Hoenn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 08:22:02 No.19476071 Report

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The slugma line was obviously Gen II, but I used to think Skarmory was Gen III since it's practically fucking secret in both GSC and Stadium 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jun 2014 13:40:26 No.19477332 Report

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>>19474089
Me too anon, me too...

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