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Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 06:12:39 No.19557492 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19558262 >>19558344 >>19558356 >>19558390 >>19558506 >>19558810 >>19561621

or don't make sense to you

>Scald
>Water Type with decent BP
>30% chance to burn
>Water, unless under pressure can only reach 100 degrees celcius before it becomes steam. The only things that should handle that pressure are steel types.
>Steel types can be burned by scald.
>Any type can be burned by scald.

>Flamethrower
>Fire type with decent BP
>10% chance to burn
>Fire can... wait... 10%?
>yes only 10%
>only... 10... fucking... percent.
>Fire can get to 500 - 1000 degrees by burning simple oxygen and to even more ridiculously high temperatures with other gases.
>still only 10% chance to burn
>even will o wisp has is a shit status move compared to scald

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 06:16:22 No.19557512 Report

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Focus blast: hits 70% of the time, misses 100% of the time

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 06:26:05 No.19557579 Report

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>opponent used stone edge!
>crit so hard that excadrill fainted!

>you used stone edge!
>it missed!

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 06:29:06 No.19557612 Report

Quoted By: >>19557636

>fighting is SE against rock
I guess a really strong hit can shatter rock, sure
>SE against STEEL when it should be NVE
...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 06:31:18 No.19557634 Report

Quoted By: >>19558260

>Volcano Pokemon Typhlosion
>Should do things volcanoes do
>Volcanoes make earth and gems
>Doesnt learn earth power
>Doesnt learn power gem

What kind of volcano is he?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 06:31:20 No.19557636 Report

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>>19557612
You're confusing Normal and Fighting. Fighting is not just punching shit, Normal can do that too. Fighting is punching with skill. How can a karate fighter break bricks anyways?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 07:40:46 No.19558191 Report

Quoted By: >>19558245 >>19558267

>sucker punch
>not fighting

idk man last time i sucker punched someone it didn't have an element added to it.

>lick
>not normal type

last time I licked someone I wasn't undead or anything

>Fairy type
>Not light type

Just like dragons I assume that fairy is more like a species. I guess they needed to add things like dragon, flying, fighting and bug to make things more interesting.

>No WIND type
>Idk flying just sounds retarded
>P sure birds are all still attacking with normal-physical moves. Just yunno with a beak, wings or talons. No different from scratching with a normal type claw. P sure hurricaine is to do with the wind element and not the fact that a flying type used it???

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 07:45:49 No.19558230 Report

Quoted By: >>19558268 >>19558350

Is it okay to sexualize the Nichijous?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 07:47:33 No.19558245 Report

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>>19558191
Sucker Punch is Dark-type because of the bad "sportsmanship" involved, in that it's a cruel thing to do.

Lick is a Ghost-type move because it was originally the Ghastly line's signature move, though I still agree that's fucking retarded because Lickitung was a thing in Gen 1 and it deserves STAB from that more. Still, there IS a reason at least.

Fairy-type makes more sense, imo. Both work, though, so I don't see why that doesn't make sense to you.

I agree with Wind-type though, but again, Steel-type is misnamed, as are Grass- and Bug-types, Dragon-type could probably be different. But yeah, GF a shit / want to keep it simple for the kiddies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 07:50:11 No.19558260 Report

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>>19557634
>What kind of volcano is he?
The same kind of everything Typhlosion is: a lame one.

;___;

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 07:50:24 No.19558262 Report

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>>19557492
As for flamethrower, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the other 90% of the time is when the target is pic related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 07:51:27 No.19558267 Report

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>>19558191
>>idk man last time i sucker punched someone it didn't have an element added to it.

Dark Type signifies playing dirty essentially.

Biting, sucker punches, thieving, et cetera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 07:51:29 No.19558268 Report

Quoted By: >>19558279

>>19558230
Nichijous are not for sexual

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 07:51:38 No.19558270 Report

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>Ferrothorn is Grass/Steel
It's weak to Ground I'll use Earthq-

>Azumarill is Water/Fairy
It's weak to Steel I'll use Iron H-

Bullshit I tell you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 07:52:46 No.19558279 Report

Quoted By: >>19558308

>>19558268
What are the holes for then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 07:55:08 No.19558308 Report

Quoted By: >>19558329

>>19558279
>ears for listening
>nostrils for smelling things
>mouth for speaking and eating
>anus for pooping (and unless I'm mistaken, girls also pee from the anus)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 07:56:55 No.19558313 Report

Quoted By: >>19558493 >>19561491

>>19558245
I thought the same thing about the sportsmanship, but it's still a punch right? I can see how it can destroy psychic and ghost, getting the advantage. But then I don't know how it 'connects' with a ghost type unless it's elemental.

I mean I suppose fairy and light are the same thing really, but it always worked out in my mind that dark and light countered each other. Maybe that's why they went with fairy tho, cause in fairytales good always prevails over dark/evil.

I want wind type most :/ one of these days I will have a wind spirit pokemon, like the blossom woman thing from Narnia <3

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 07:59:23 No.19558329 Report

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>>19558308
>I'm mistaken, girls also pee from the anus

You're mistaken, because girls ONLY pee from their anus.

Girls don't poop, that's why they pee so much more often than men.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:02:26 No.19558344 Report

Quoted By: >>19561356

>>19557492
>GF adds fairies to balance the type chart
>Bug still sucks
>Grass still sucks
>Ice still sucks
>Dark becomes even weaker, bordering the above times in usability

Also

>Mega evos added to buff weak Pokemon
>Everyone hype for bromons
>Game comes out
>Gengar, Blaziken, Garchomp, and Lucario all got one.
>Two (maybe 3, haven't checked in a while, I'm a VGC shitter) are banned from OU because buffing already good Pokemon predictably centralized the metagame.
(Yes, I know Garchomp's sucks, but the fact they thought he needed an extra 100 BST is just retarded).
>GF did so little playtesting Mega Kanga exists.

Honestly most of /vp/, hell, even some fucking ledditors, could come up with better balance decisions.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:03:46 No.19558350 Report

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>>19558230
Worse than genocide

Machavelli !!46WShESjfnx

Machavelli !!46WShESjfnx Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:06:02 No.19558356 Report

Quoted By: >>19558360 >>19558363

>>19557492
The fact that people find lumps of pixels sexually attractive and feel the need to cheat in Pokemon "because they don't have the time".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:07:23 No.19558360 Report

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>>19558356
Get back to being banned from /r/tf2 for shitposting Mach.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:07:45 No.19558363 Report

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>>19558356
>implying that isn't a given cringe-worthy thing in most fanbases
>implying you didn't spell machiavelli wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:09:27 No.19558367 Report

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>>19558363
Ignore him, he's just a shitposter in r/tf2 and /tf2g/. He isn't smart enough to have conversation with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:14:34 No.19558390 Report

Quoted By: >>19558407 >>19558449

>>19557492
>Water, unless under pressure can only reach 100 degrees celcius before it becomes steam. The only things that should handle that pressure are steel types.
Scalding water, not scalding steam. And steel types suffer from thermal stress.

>Fire can get to 500 - 1000 degrees by burning simple oxygen and to even more ridiculously high temperatures with other gases.
What
>fire can burn hotter if you replace oxygen with another gas

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:18:21 No.19558407 Report

Quoted By: >>19558449

>>19558390
Different gases ignite at different temperatures. Physics and chemistry 101

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:30:05 No.19558449 Report

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>>19558390
>>19558407
Except you need oxygen for ignition. Fire requires three things: a spark, a comburent and a combustible or fuel. Oxygen is the obligated comburent, while different fuels are those which actually burn at different capacities, creating different flame temperatures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:39:13 No.19558493 Report

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>>19558313

Remember that in Japanese the "dark" type is actally the "evil" type. So in a way you can argue the punch is elemental.

Its made by, uhh, evil.

Yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:41:11 No.19558506 Report

Quoted By: >>19558571

>>19557492
>hey guys I know about science because we did thing in 5th grade
Water has many orders of magnitude higher specific heat capacity than air (read: hot air (read: fire))
>what did he say?
1 kg of water contains more, WAY more "heat energy" than 1 kg of air.
Not to mention that while the water expelled from Scald is many kgs, the air expelled from Flamethrower is less than 1 kg
>Yes but air has higher thermal diffusivity! You know, how fast heat is transferred through a mass of a substance!
Irrelavant, as I said before the water carries way more energy and has way more mass for this to matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:50:51 No.19558542 Report

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>Except you need oxygen for ignition.
That was the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:52:49 No.19558552 Report

Quoted By: >>19558569 >>19558584 >>19558594

^annnd you missed the point about how a uh water type handles all of that?? yes you're all right, but im sure this was being 'basic' just because a water type being better at being a fire type (in terms of handling heat and producing heat) is illogical in any sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:56:18 No.19558569 Report

Quoted By: >>19558700

>>19558552
But it isn't better. Scald and flamethrower aren't comparable. Scald and Lava plume are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:56:28 No.19558571 Report

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>>19558506
>getting this scientific about a children's video game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:57:29 No.19558584 Report

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>>19558552
> ^

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 08:59:01 No.19558594 Report

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>>19558552
Of course you are implying that fire isn't more likely to kill you when you touch it than merely give you burns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 09:22:29 No.19558700 Report

Quoted By: >>19558707 >>19558776

>>19558569
correct me if im wrong but isnt lava/magma actually much MUCH hotter than water can ever be due to it being consisted of solid matter, including but not limited to metals. It would also remain on the for for a very long time without evaporating or cooling nearly as fast as the water that would mostly just slide off. You've implied that all the water has hit the surface of the foe, when most of it would be lost and not make contact at all. At most you are heating a single area for about 2 seconds (if that). You never considered that unlike water, fire can engulf a larger surface area and exceed the heat of water and very fast. You don't know how hot that flamethrower is, you dont know what gas is burning. None of what you just said applies to the move scald or scalding water burning more effectively than flamethrower. Yes it is likely that anything with a flesh exterior will die instantly anyway, but the specific argument is that it burns steel just as effectively or more effectively than uncapped fire temperatures.

guuuurl. scald should burn any pokemon effectively, however it's a very sad excuse for why it has a higher rate of burning than fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 09:23:57 No.19558707 Report

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>>19558700
*on the target

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 09:40:08 No.19558776 Report

Quoted By: >>19558809

>>19558700
> however it's a very sad excuse
Balance.
Check mate.
flamethrower is quite a bit stronger than scald.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 09:47:16 No.19558809 Report

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>>19558776
fire is weak as shit right now. if they allowed flamethrower to burn more often then fire would at least leave a thorn in the opponents side after being destroyed by EQ/rock throw/SCALD ITSELF LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 09:47:18 No.19558810 Report

Quoted By: >>19558836

>>19557492
Lava plume is the equivalent anon, not flamethrower.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 09:54:22 No.19558836 Report

Quoted By: >>19561161

>>19558810
but lava plume should burn more effectively, along with flamethrower. burning belongs to fire type and they need to let it do its frickle fracken job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 16:21:45 No.19561161 Report

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>>19558836
Do you want to know why there's a low chance of burning for Fire moves?

Because that's the chance that you'll survive one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 16:34:36 No.19561356 Report

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>>19558344
>Dark becomes even weaker, bordering the above times in usability
Nigger, I really hope you are joking. Dark is one of THE best attacking types this gen, especially with Steel no longer resisting it, and Dark resisting both itself and Ghost makes it a fairly competent defensive typing too, or at the very least not nearly as bad as rock or ice.

Now if you want a shitty type, look no further than psychic. It sucks dicks offensively and defensively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 16:42:58 No.19561491 Report

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>>19558313
Sucker punch isn't necessarily a punch, it's a surprise attack. Sucker punch isn't even a translation, in the japanese versions it's called Ambush, which makes it obviously a dark type move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jun 2014 16:54:49 No.19561621 Report

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>>19557492
It's a game you autistic fuck

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