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Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 03:36:46 No.19570224 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19570281 >>19570310 >>19570328 >>19570366 >>19570618 >>19570648 >>19570981 >>19571053 >>19571296 >>19573571 >>19573844 >>19573978

>BST is 460
>70/70/70 defenses across the board
>only above average offenses

Jesus christ I never knew how horrible this shit was until specuationfags came up with Mega Camerupt and Sharpedo. +100 BST sure ain't gonna fix things if it can't hold an item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 03:42:10 No.19570281 Report

Quoted By: >>19571296 >>19573351

>>19570224
Then what CAN save him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 03:44:17 No.19570310 Report

Quoted By: >>19570393

>>19570224

at least he's not magcargo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 03:45:58 No.19570328 Report

Quoted By: >>19570637

>>19570224
>Primal Camerupt
>Primal forms give +200 BST instead of +100 like megas
maybe Kyogre and Groudon get a lil broken but its for the greater good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 03:50:04 No.19570366 Report

Quoted By: >>19572631

>>19570224
> +100 BST sure ain't gonna fix things if it can't hold an item.
It sure could.
70
100->30
70->100
105->185
75->100
40->30

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 03:53:04 No.19570393 Report

Quoted By: >>19570478 >>19571015 >>19571527

>>19570310
Oh okay let's see, uhhhh

>BST is 410
>mfw only 80 SpA when I've always figured it had >100

I know not all Pokemon were designed for competitiveness, but fucking shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 04:01:26 No.19570478 Report

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>>19570393
Oh, it's got a lot worse than just stats.

>base 120 defense
>x4 weak to water, weak to common priority
>no special rock-type STAB that isn't shit
>gets shell smash
>but only has base 30 speed
>just plainly outclassed, both offensively and defensively

50
50->65
120->135
80->125
80
30->55
+ Fire / Steel typing
+ an ability that isn't shit

Maybe then it'd be usable. But probably not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 04:15:26 No.19570618 Report

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>>19570224
well when you consider they could move stat points from useless stats like ampharos and abomasnow losing speed. and storm drain

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 04:17:01 No.19570637 Report

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>>19570328
>both have 670 BST
>+200 effectively gives them stat advantages over Arceus and Mega Mewtwos

gee whiz can Arceus ever catch a break?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 04:18:09 No.19570648 Report

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>>19570224
Give the piece of shit Water Absorb

Because of that myth that camels store water in their humps or some shit I dunno. Give it +30 to its defenses and it might actually be able to carve out a niche in RU.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 04:26:37 No.19570780 Report

Quoted By: >>19571112 >>19571254

yfw gets fire version of gale wings and all 100 points go to sp attack. Becomes new Mega Kangaskhan banned to ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 04:51:53 No.19570971 Report

Quoted By: >>19571003

Mawile had 380 BST and it turned out just fine with its +100 from mega evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 04:53:12 No.19570981 Report

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>>19570224
What if its Mega loses either ground or fire and gets water absorb (Because camels carry large amounts of water in their humps)>

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 04:56:13 No.19571003 Report

Quoted By: >>19571122

>>19570971
huge power would make a lot of shitmons less shitmon. A good ability can make or break a mega, just look at I don't know Mega Garchomp lets say. If Mega Garchomp even had sand stream or something it would probably be used a hell of a lot more than it is now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 04:57:35 No.19571015 Report

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>>19570393

Honestly, if Gamefreak could ever stop wanking about popular pokemon megas and their stupid doubles format they would have a perfect chance to give Magcargo a 3rd stage; the damn thing already performs worse than alot of NFE's anyways. Require a certain trade with an item or some conditional like the others to get a Fire/Steel, or at least a Fire/Rock type with at least two useable stats and a niche.

Less fucking likely than farfetch'd ever becoming viable though for them to actually give a shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 05:01:40 No.19571053 Report

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>>19570224

>Looks like a tank
>HP/Def/SDef worse than Flygon

For what purpose.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 05:07:38 No.19571112 Report

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>>19570780
>priority eruptions
stop

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 05:08:35 No.19571122 Report

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>>19571003

If it hadn't lost 10 speed it would have been banned before the game was even fucking out, forget about sand stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 05:25:09 No.19571254 Report

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>>19570780

>Priority Lava Plume

Oh dear, that possible 60% to burn either opposing pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 05:31:35 No.19571296 Report

Quoted By: >>19572621

>>19570224
>>19570281
Lets see for Camerupt.

70 > 70
100 > 80 (-20)
70 > 160 (+90)
105 > 155 (+50)
75 > 55 (-20)
40 > 40

>Groundcanos envelop most of it's back, lava streaming down from cracks/top

>Ability: Devouring Flames This Pokemon's Fire type moves can't be resisted

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 05:51:06 No.19571456 Report

Quoted By: >>19571483

Gale Hunps can save it...you just have to believe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 05:53:25 No.19571483 Report

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>>19571456
>just like Mega doll the ability doesn't activate till the next turn

Eternal shitmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 05:57:24 No.19571527 Report

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>>19570393
i have no idea why they fucked up Magcargo stats.
I mean, it's not like is an "early game" Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 05:58:42 No.19571541 Report

Quoted By: >>19571586

Shit mon mega gives 200bst instead of 100
To pokemon like ledian and farfetched

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 06:01:30 No.19571564 Report

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There was a ton of awful gen 3 mons. Only the starters and postgame mons were really any good. Made it so the best ingame team was Swampert/Blaziken + 5 pickup mons and Wailord/Tropius for HM slaves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 06:02:32 No.19571575 Report

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Did anyone else notice there are a lot of slow Hoenn mons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 06:04:01 No.19571586 Report

Quoted By: >>19571684

>>19571541
Mega Ledian NEEDS to happen, it's design is too cool to be a weakling

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 06:09:45 No.19571626 Report

Quoted By: >>19571634

Does anyone has good fanmade pics ofMega Camerupt?
I couldn't be able to find anything decent

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 06:10:46 No.19571634 Report

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>>19571626
*couldn't find

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 06:18:56 No.19571684 Report

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>>19571586
I know that feel, Ariados and Ledian are probably my favourite bug types. I'd rather they just get stat boosts than megas though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 07:27:18 No.19572061 Report

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A bit more special attack and a better ability would make it an absolutely insane Eruption user for trick room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 08:46:48 No.19572494 Report

Quoted By: >>19572523

I run a Camerupt with Roar / Amnesia / Lava Plume / Earthpower in UU (1500-1700 rating). It's purdy good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 08:50:39 No.19572518 Report

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Well it comes from the 3rd gen, overall the gen with the worst stats distributions. Also Camerupt ia supposed to be a common second stage and final evolution like shitmons a la Floatzel and Cherrim, don't expect miracles even if it gets a mega, at least Sharpedo has biyh offensive power, speed in its ability, new Destiny Bond and coverage, it can work even with its shit bulk while Camerup is missing a loy of these factors and TR wouldn't make it better since there are more reliable TR sweepers. Feeling bad for it and other mons like Chimecho, Absol, Cacturne and Shiftry or Volbeat and such.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 08:52:42 No.19572523 Report

Quoted By: >>19572601

>>19572494
Mew does the same but better? So does Milotic, Aggron, Zygarde, Snorlax, Suicune etc

Evan 2509 3110 5128 (Azurill Panpour Gyarados)

Evan 2509 3110 5128 (Azurill Panpour Gyarados) Wed 11 Jun 2014 09:05:40 No.19572601 Report

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>>19572523
That's not how tiers work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 09:10:26 No.19572621 Report

Quoted By: >>19573323 >>19573537

>>19571296
>Lowering SpD.
>4x Water weakness

What the fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 09:12:44 No.19572630 Report

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camerupt type is a really dangerous offenssive type. Give its mega something that either offers priority to fire or something that negate/disminishes its weakness to the common water and ground type and you get yourself something extremely dangerous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 09:13:03 No.19572631 Report

Quoted By: >>19573365

>>19570366
>making it Special
>it has STAB Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 09:20:18 No.19572657 Report

Quoted By: >>19573141

i get that the fur on some breeds of camel can make the legs look stocky, but camerupt just doesn't read "camel" to me. it looks like a cow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 10:41:25 No.19573141 Report

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>>19572657
Yeah, it's way too short and bulky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 11:17:02 No.19573323 Report

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>>19572621
Its not gonna survive a water attack even if it got +100 sp.def. you fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 11:24:00 No.19573351 Report

Quoted By:

>>19570281
A boosted Solid Rock or Water Absorb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 11:26:43 No.19573365 Report

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>>19572631
earthpower>earthquake, fucktard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 11:30:57 No.19573385 Report

Quoted By: >>19573505 >>19573566 >>19573810

Better yet, how do we fix Sharpedo? Even if it gets +50 in each defense stat, it's still made of wet paper.

I think it could use a gale wings like ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 11:55:46 No.19573505 Report

Quoted By: >>19573523

>>19573385
>I have no idea what speed boost is
just give its offenses a bit of a buff and it'd be fine

+10 def, +40 atk, +10 spd, +40 spa, keep speed boost

(does that do more damage than LO?)

alternatively, give it strong jaw in mega. Speed boost up, then when you're sanic enough, mega and wreck shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 12:01:46 No.19573523 Report

Quoted By: >>19573841 >>19573848

>>19573505
speed boost doesn't matter if it dies to priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 12:03:55 No.19573537 Report

Quoted By:

>>19572621

like if its current spdef could save him from water type attacks regardless

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 12:11:15 No.19573566 Report

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>>19573385
Buff its defenses, then give it an ability that's good defensively. Think Fur Coat, but, y'know, something that would actually make sense on Sharpedo.

Sure, you'd lose Speed Boost. But it's already decently fast. Plus, you could Protect the first turn, get the Speed Boost, THEN go mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 12:12:49 No.19573571 Report

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>>19570224
it's a shame too i fucking love camerupt used him in XD:Gale of darkness

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 12:14:58 No.19573576 Report

Quoted By: >>19573589 >>19573597

>people speculating about them being megas
>inb4 they end up being omega-camerupt and alpha-sharpedo, being primal devolutions like groudon and kyogre, which we still don't know how the stat changes will be
>yfw megalodon-like sharpedo
>yfw pure fire camerupt

screen cap this faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 12:18:26 No.19573589 Report

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>>19573576
i thought primal devolution was just mega evolution for different pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 12:22:10 No.19573597 Report

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>>19573576
But they have megastones already.

Also, pure fire Camerupt? You got shit taste, buddy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 12:24:36 No.19573608 Report

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Yeah the more I think about it after Groudon's type change I think either Camerupt will get shafted or have a different typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 12:31:24 No.19573653 Report

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What if Maxie and Archie's mega stones are just to devolve groudon/Kyogre?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 13:02:05 No.19573810 Report

Quoted By:

>>19573385
Speed Boost + Mega Strong Jaw I agree.
Sharpedo doesn't really need bulk boosts, only sheer power. It's the Deoxys-N/A in its fish form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 13:08:42 No.19573841 Report

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>>19573523
It has its own priority, 120 attack prior to going mega, and a speed boosting ability.
>protect turn 1
>speed boosts
>go mega turn 2
>ability changes to Sheer Force, Strong Jaw, or Adaptability
>mega speed +1, massive attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 13:09:09 No.19573844 Report

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>>19570224
Just give Maxie a Mega Flygon, don't bother with this shit please GF

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 13:09:22 No.19573848 Report

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>>19573523
It has aqua jet

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 13:30:52 No.19573978 Report

Quoted By: >>19573995

>>19570224
70>70
100>120
70>90
105>145
70>90
40>45

>Simple
>Gains a crapload of boosting moves(Acupressure, Curse, Growth, Autotomize, etc)

Basically this turns it into THE poster mon for Simple. Uninvested base 45 speed can reach over 480 speed after a +4 boost which is basically up there with scarf 100s. Then you can invest heavily enough into both offenses to do serious damage as a mixed sweeper. Fire/Ground is a very good STAB combo to have and it gets many good options for attacking.

It can also double as a Trick Room sweeper since its sitting at 85 speed points with a minus nature and 0 speed IVs and gaining access to many attack options that hit both opponents. Immunity to Discharge helps its case too.

The Water weakness is workable with a bulky Grass type as a partner.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jun 2014 13:32:38 No.19573995 Report

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>>19573978
My mistake, speed remains at 40.

Still practically the same.

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