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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 10:34:29 No.19616549 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19616971 >>19617026 >>19618689 >>19619133 >>19622935 >>19623876 >>19625267

So... I guess Nintendo aren't doing Special Editions anymore?
I tend to call the third game in the series a special edition. Forgive my assburgers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 10:39:41 No.19616568 Report

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3rd games come 2 years after originals

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 10:39:50 No.19616570 Report

Quoted By: >>19616856

Yup. We never played Emerald and Platinum since FRLG and HGSS came out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 11:41:49 No.19616856 Report

Quoted By: >>19617241

>>19616570
Didn't emerald come after FrLg

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 11:55:45 No.19616904 Report

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I call it the "director's cut".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 12:06:46 No.19616971 Report

Quoted By: >>19621485

>>19616549
RIP moneywhore edition
You were fucking hated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 12:14:32 No.19617026 Report

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>>19616549
Black and White 2 could have very easily been Grey if Gamefreak wasn't ordered to "try something different."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 12:49:58 No.19617241 Report

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>>19616856
Yes it did

It's Platinum that didn't come after HG/SS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 13:01:24 No.19617309 Report

Quoted By: >>19617451 >>19618074 >>19622840

>Xerneas
>shaped like an X
>name begins with an X
>mascot of Pokémon X

>Yveltal
>shaped like a Y
>name begins with a Y
>mascot of Pokémon Y

>Zygarde
>shaped like a Z
>name begins with a Z
>take a wild guess

>3rd Generation
>RS came out in 2003
>FRLG came out in 2004
>Emerald in 2005

>2013 - X/Y
>2014 - ORAS
>2015 - Z

Tell me why we're not getting Z again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 13:21:09 No.19617451 Report

Quoted By: >>19617475

>>19617309
because anyone can speculate things and you are wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 13:24:42 No.19617475 Report

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>>19617451
Yeah, the dex entries for Zygarde and the amount of unexplained shit and areas in X and Y are only a myth and photoshopped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 14:33:11 No.19618074 Report

Quoted By: >>19618642 >>19618659 >>19618737 >>19619020 >>19619058 >>19625319 >>19626021

>>19617309
>Reshiram
>colored white
>mascot of Pokemon Black

>Zekrom
>colored black
>Mascot of Pokemon White

>Kyurem
>colored grey
>Mascot of Pokemon Black 2 and White 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 14:35:56 No.19618097 Report

Quoted By: >>19618106

The only Special Edition was Yellow. What you're referring too is solitary versions, expansion packs, or Director's Cut editions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 14:36:59 No.19618106 Report

Quoted By: >>19619959

>>19618097
>too
*to

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 15:38:37 No.19618642 Report

Quoted By: >>19618702 >>19618710 >>19618744

>>19618074
Except Gen V was a completely separate gen on it's own and more or less a reboot.

Also it had no remakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 15:40:51 No.19618659 Report

Quoted By: >>19618689 >>19618702 >>19618744

>>19618074
Yeah good thing there weren't any new games other than Black and White in Gen V

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 15:43:07 No.19618689 Report

Quoted By: >>19622921

>>19616549
>Doesn't know Emerald came out after FRLG
>Uses weird terminology and then explains it inside a spoiler, citing autism as cause
>In a format of communication that allows the speaker ample time to choose their worlds wisely.

No sir I don't like it.

>>19618659
There weren't. What are you implying?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 15:44:18 No.19618702 Report

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>>19618659
>>19618642

>gives good reason why Z isn't 100% for sure
>disregards because muh patterns

The "No Pokemon Grey" deal isn't the only thing that proves Z isn't a sure thing, Gen V also showed that you can take your shit patterns and throw them out the window. If GF followed "pattern", we'd have the R/S remakes already

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 15:44:44 No.19618710 Report

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>>19618642
>see, gen 5 didn't follow your precious patterns

>nuh uh man, it was the exception that proves the rule!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 15:46:50 No.19618737 Report

Quoted By: >>19622692

>>19618074
>Pokemon X2 and Y2
>you now have to face an immortal Lysandre

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 15:47:43 No.19618744 Report

Quoted By: >>19618789

>>19618642
>>19618659

so how does getting remakes prove that the next gen 6 game is going to be Z? Are you fucking stupid, or are you just bad at arguing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 15:52:30 No.19618789 Report

Quoted By: >>19618838 >>19618887

>>19618744
Because gens III and IV had remakes AND third versions. Gen V had no remakes and sequels.

If we weren't getting R/S remakes this gen then we'd be more likely to get X2/Y2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 15:58:13 No.19618838 Report

Quoted By: >>19618863

>>19618789
I'm not sure, but I think s/he's trying to say that we'd be more likely to get two "third" edition games if we weren't getting remakes. I don't really agree, I feel like the reason we got two third versions with Black and White was because of plot differences that couldn't be consolidated into one game. Maybe they chose not to make the R/S remakes then because they had put so much time into BW2? That makes some sense, but I don't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 16:01:05 No.19618863 Report

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>>19618838
The reason they didn't remake R/S in Gen V is easy: because they were obviously planning Gen VI at that stage while pushing out B/W2 and making remakes for the 3DS using the X/Y engine would be ten times better than using the B/W engine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 16:04:55 No.19618887 Report

Quoted By: >>19618908

>>19618789

>If we weren't getting R/S remakes this gen then we'd be more likely to get X2/Y2.
>muh fucking patterns
>muh muhtherfucking patterns

disregarding your shit patterns, I didn't ask how it proves we're getting a third game, I asked how we know that game is going to be Z

hint: we don't

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 16:06:35 No.19618908 Report

Quoted By: >>19618932 >>19618936

>>19618887
>I asked how that game is going to be Z

I think you're the fucking stupid one here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 16:08:27 No.19618926 Report

Quoted By: >>19618932

">I asked how that game is going to be Grey

I think you're the fucking stupid one here."

Shit like that probably happened before BW2 came out. We literally don't know. I'd bet it's Z as well, but we don't know for certain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 16:09:28 No.19618932 Report

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>>19618926
meant for >>19618908

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 16:09:48 No.19618936 Report

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>>19618908

>implying Pokemon fans aren't disappointed every gen because they know "for sure" what the next game is

not saying Z isn't going to happen, anon, just saying that some faggots don't need to be so confident about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 16:21:32 No.19619020 Report

Quoted By: >>19619036

>>19618074

Except it wasn't grey. It was grey and blue. What are they going to call it, Pokemon Baby Blue?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 16:24:09 No.19619036 Report

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>>19619020

oh my god I've never seen somebody more autistic in my life

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 16:24:39 No.19619041 Report

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OP we are getting Delta Emerald next because muh muthafuckin patterns er-r muh autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 16:26:00 No.19619058 Report

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>>19618074
It didn't have any remakes because it was released past the 3ds release.

It was outdated before it came out.

There would be constant bitching if there was a remake in gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 16:33:03 No.19619133 Report

Quoted By: >>19621506

>>19616549
Gen 5 isn't an exception to pattern. It's the start of a new pattern altogether with sequels instead of third versions which is Bette because that means an actual new story line instead of the same shit with barely new features

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 17:58:02 No.19619959 Report

Quoted By:

>>19618106
>asshole
Asshole

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 20:37:21 No.19621485 Report

Quoted By:

>>19616971
>implying 3rd editions aren't best games in the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 20:40:06 No.19621506 Report

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>>19619133
yeah, x2/y2 sounds way better than z if you ask me.
they could even be smug little bastards and go with x^2 and y^2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:41:28 No.19622029 Report

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Look, we only got B2/W2 because GF were saving the ORAS remakes for the 3DS. They didn't want to just have 3 games in one generation - that hasn't happened since gen II - and they wanted to give us something better to tide us over til gen VI, so they came up with sequels.

Now that we know that ORAS are part of gen VI, there's no real reason for X2/Y2 to exist - it will almost certainly be Z.

That said, I hope they treat Z as a sequel to X/Y and change as much as they did for B2/W2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:46:27 No.19622692 Report

Quoted By:

>>19618737
>my anus is ready

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:03:40 No.19622840 Report

Quoted By:

>>19617309
You know HGSS came after Platinum right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:04:19 No.19622854 Report

Quoted By: >>19625438 >>19625548

I actually haven't bought X nor Y yet, and i won't because i'm waiting for the third version

I know a lot of you people will go >not into 3D or something, but i just find it pointless to basically buy the same game twice, and seeing the things many of tou have said about XY, i think i dodged a bullet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:05:50 No.19622882 Report

Quoted By: >>19623037 >>19623090

The only reason we got BW2 was because they had no remakes, so they split the third version in two to make up the lost profits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:09:26 No.19622921 Report

Quoted By: >>19622984

>>19618689
>Choose worlds
>not choosing mars

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:10:33 No.19622935 Report

Quoted By:

>>19616549
Are you retarded or something, OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:15:44 No.19622984 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622921
>not choosing Illium

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:20:30 No.19623037 Report

Quoted By: >>19625140

>>19622882
Yup
And before anyone questions this guy: We didn't get remakes because they wanted to move on to 3D ASAP
Instead of making a whole new game, they just tweaked what they had

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:27:44 No.19623090 Report

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>>19622882
B2W2 are sequels, not solitary versions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:33:28 No.19623152 Report

Quoted By: >>19623209

I hope they continue doing sequels. BW2 were so much better than the standard Emerald/Platinum/Crystal shit. That way it actually expands on the previous story instead of just replacing it and the region is explored in a different way. Plenty of post game content too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:35:44 No.19623182 Report

Quoted By: >>19623603 >>19623939

Still expecting Pokemon A and Pokemon Z.

>because AZ will be central to the plot and not just a random tag on
>because Alpha and Omega are already confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:37:57 No.19623209 Report

Quoted By: >>19623975

>>19623152
Except Crystal (especially the Japanese version) along with Emerald and Platinum improve on the first games, which are usually incomplete because Game Freak is trying out new stuff.

Gold and Silver are sequels to Red and Green, Black 2 and White 2 are sequels to Black and White. Nothing else justifies sequels so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:14:15 No.19623603 Report

Quoted By: >>19623901

>>19623182
>AZ will appear in ORAS
>He will have his Floette and Primal Regigigas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:36:06 No.19623876 Report

Quoted By:

>>19616549
But OP... they ARE Special Editions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:38:17 No.19623901 Report

Quoted By: >>19623948 >>19624085

>>19623603
>RSE takes place during RBY/FRLG
>XY takes place during B2W2
>AZ would have his Floette before it returned to him
What...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:40:42 No.19623939 Report

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>>19623182
I'm actually quite disappointed the remakes are Alpha and Omega. It feels like a waste, instead of, say, "LandRuby/SeaSapphire" or something.

Mostly because Alpha and Omega versions would have been great on their own for Gen VII.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:41:02 No.19623948 Report

Quoted By: >>19623989 >>19624056

>>19623901
And who said XY takes place after RSE?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:42:44 No.19623975 Report

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>>19623209
>Except Crystal (especially the Japanese version) along with Emerald and Platinum improve on the first games

So what? BW2 STILL improved on the first games while having even MORE new content. Sequels should be the standard instead of rehashes with a retconned story and more post game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:43:34 No.19623989 Report

Quoted By: >>19624085 >>19624116

>>19623948
Are you retarded? There's an official timeline and we've known it for years based on game canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:47:30 No.19624056 Report

Quoted By: >>19624116

>>19623948
The woman in X/Y who says Blue's been around and still says "Smell ya later!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:49:17 No.19624085 Report

Quoted By: >>19624197 >>19625905

>>19623901
>>19623989
Yeah but the thing you're forgetting is that this would be ORAS, not R/S/E.

We have no clue where this fits into the timeline so far since Sycamore said the first time anyone has ever reported Mega evolutions was in Kalos years after the events of BW2, which is 3 years after the events of every single Pokemon game. Yet they show up in ORAS.

For all we know there could be a time skip or something in ORAS now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:50:22 No.19624116 Report

Quoted By: >>19624301 >>19624304

>>19623989
>>19624056

Fuck.

Minding linking me to that official timeline? I've literally never heard news of it before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:56:13 No.19624197 Report

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>>19624085
Remakes don't change the timeline, they never have. FRLG replaces RG, HGSS replaces GS, the timeline is still the same. Everything that didn't exist in the originals is retconned to exist as if it has always been there (Dark and Steel types as well as Eggs in FRLG, etc.).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 01:03:11 No.19624301 Report

Quoted By: >>19624368

>>19624116
Goddammit, someone seems to have posted it in another thread.
>>19580877
Seems the original tweet was deleted, as far as the link via Bulbapedia would show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 01:03:36 No.19624304 Report

Quoted By: >>19624368

>>19624116
http://archive.today/D9iPz
It was posted by Toshinobu Matsumiya from GAME FREAK on his Twitter but he has since deleted it.

The official timeline is:
RG = RS > GS = DPPt > BW > B2W2 = XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 01:07:08 No.19624368 Report

Quoted By:

>>19624301
>>19624304

Hah, as I've always advocated. Thanks.

Rocky 5000-1735-4014 Ice(Snorunt, Beartic, Piloswine)

Rocky 5000-1735-4014 Ice(Snorunt, Beartic, Piloswine) Sun 15 Jun 2014 02:11:21 No.19625140 Report

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>>19623037
while i would say this is true, i still think they did a good job with those two games.

i think that the sequels were a good continuation of the story and had some touching moments

i couldnt care for the kyurem alterations though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 02:20:03 No.19625242 Report

Quoted By:

But we already got Pokemon Z

The Z stands for zero content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 02:21:46 No.19625267 Report

Quoted By:

>>19616549
They only made B2W2 because they felt like expanding on Unova's story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 02:25:32 No.19625319 Report

Quoted By:

>>19618074
>has two forms, one colored black and one colored white

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 02:33:53 No.19625438 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622854
Enjoy not having fun for ages.

Rocky 5000-1735-4014 Ice(Snorunt, Beartic, Piloswine)

Rocky 5000-1735-4014 Ice(Snorunt, Beartic, Piloswine) Sun 15 Jun 2014 02:40:25 No.19625548 Report

Quoted By: >>19625604 >>19625789

>>19622854
>dodged a bullet
great joke friend

X & Y are the best games to date

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 02:43:25 No.19625604 Report

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>>19625548
>absolutely no late game
>worst villainous team ever
>linear Gyms that don't even have a puzzle
>best games

kek poT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 02:56:00 No.19625789 Report

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>>19625548
They could have been better, but it seems like Gamefreak is feeling rushed lately.
For what it's worth, I only ever asked for a fully realized 3D Pokemon main series game.
I got that much, but I really wish there were something to do after finishing story mode other than dedicating my life to battling elitist assholes.

My only joy was Emma.
The dex is conquered, Team Flare is in ruins, I have no friends, and I will never understand competitive battling.
I'm sitting in wait for the day I'm given a purpose again.
Still this was not a waste of my time and money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 03:05:39 No.19625905 Report

Quoted By: >>19625952

>>19624085
>Sycamore said the first time anyone has ever reported Mega evolutions was in Kalos years after the events of BW2
Sycamore is an idiot that can't see beyond his own nose.
You find out that mega evolution has existed for generations prior to ORAS/FRLG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 03:10:12 No.19625952 Report

Quoted By: >>19626004

>>19625905
>years after the events of B2W2

Confirmed for an idiot, B2W2 clearly take place during XY.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 03:15:33 No.19626004 Report

Quoted By:

>>19625952
Posting for prosperity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 03:17:05 No.19626021 Report

Quoted By: >>19626052 >>19626663

>>19618074
>Still has special edition versions released
Nice argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 03:19:29 No.19626052 Report

Quoted By:

>>19626021
What?
At least use the right terminology if you're going to be wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:03:02 No.19626663 Report

Quoted By: >>19626859

>>19626021
That's like calling GSC a 'special version'

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:15:25 No.19626859 Report

Quoted By: >>19626898

>>19626663
Blue in Japan was the extra game
Yellow was the extra game
Crystal was the extra game
Emerald was the extra game
Platinum was the extra game
Black 2 and White 2 were the extra games

It's not that difficult to understand

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:18:14 No.19626898 Report

Quoted By: >>19626931

>>19626859
'Extra game' isn't a term that applies to Black and White 2, idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:20:28 No.19626931 Report

Quoted By: >>19626954

>>19626898
And why not? What makes it different than any of the other ones?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:22:03 No.19626954 Report

Quoted By: >>19626977

>>19626931
The fact that it was a full sequel rather than an expansion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:23:40 No.19626977 Report

Quoted By: >>19627012 >>19627079

>>19626954
>story is different
Ok, they all had a different story, these two just happened to be more radical in the differences. Still the same region, still the same characters, no new Pokémon.
I'm not seeing much difference, man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:26:22 No.19627012 Report

Quoted By: >>19627142

>>19626977
I didn't know that every third version had completely different stories, characters and protags as their previous games anon.
Stop being retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:32:25 No.19627079 Report

Quoted By: >>19627242

>>19626977
>I'm not seeing much difference, man.
That's because you want to believe you're right and instead of focusing on what's different from the regular third versions you're focusing on the similarities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:37:03 No.19627142 Report

Quoted By: >>19627199

>>19627012
>implying they have to be the same every time
The second release of main games aren't always the same shit, get your head out of your ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:43:03 No.19627199 Report

Quoted By: >>19627253

>>19627142
>The second release of main games are always the same shit, just with extra fluff
ftfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:46:48 No.19627242 Report

Quoted By:

>>19627079
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:48:45 No.19627253 Report

Quoted By: >>19627272

>>19627199
The story is changed with the third versions, that's the main difference.
The story was changed with BW2, that was the main difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:51:31 No.19627272 Report

Quoted By: >>19627324

>>19627253
>The story is changed with the third versions
Very minor changes, the story as a whole is the exact same as the previous games just combined into one.

Black and White 2 is a continuation of Black and White and therefore isn't the same story used in Black and White at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 04:56:47 No.19627324 Report

Quoted By: >>19627391

>>19627272
>The degree of what changed between versions isn't uniform, therefore, not the same!!
Wow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 05:01:59 No.19627391 Report

Quoted By: >>19627438

>>19627324
Do you even know what you're talking about anymore?
Or are you trying to say that Black and White 2 had the exact same story as Black and White?

I mean, that's like saying Metroid and Super Metroid have the same story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 05:06:00 No.19627438 Report

Quoted By:

>>19627391
No, I'm saying that the story was indeed different.
Yes it was a sequel.
Yes it was quite different than previous third versions.
The fact remains that they were collectively the third versions of Gen V, just a different take on them.

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