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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:48:02 No.19622085 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19622099 >>19622106 >>19622157 >>19622234 >>19622517 >>19622718 >>19624290 >>19627744 >>19628667 >>19628954

ITT: Break a Pokemon by giving it a move or ability.
Hard mode: No Huge Power or Speed Boost
pic related gets Sheer Force

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:49:42 No.19622099 Report

Quoted By: >>19622630

>>19622085
But it's already broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:50:04 No.19622102 Report

Quoted By: >>19622719

>Typhlosion
>Gale Fire
>Priority Eruption
>gg everybody

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:50:08 No.19622103 Report

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Sheer Force Deoxys-A.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:50:27 No.19622106 Report

Quoted By: >>19628173

>>19622085

Guts or Sand Force.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:52:18 No.19622128 Report

Quoted By: >>19622139 >>19622315

Thought claws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:53:10 No.19622139 Report

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>>19622128
>Thought claws

Do you want it to become more intelligent?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:54:52 No.19622157 Report

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>>19622085
>Slaking
Even Own Tempo would be broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:55:59 No.19622176 Report

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Dark Void Klefki

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:57:02 No.19622197 Report

Quoted By: >>19622226

Poison heal chancey/blissey

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:57:27 No.19622210 Report

Quoted By: >>19622226

Gale Wings Staraptor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:58:10 No.19622220 Report

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Pure power slaking

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:58:30 No.19622226 Report

Quoted By: >>19622250

>>19622197
>Poison heal chancey/blissey

>>19622210
>Gale Wings Staraptor.

I don't even want to think of those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 21:59:36 No.19622234 Report

Quoted By: >>19622900

>>19622085
DD Simple Garchomp.
Simple Xerneas.
Fire-type Aerilate Arcanine.
Slaking, Regigigas, and Archeops with any non-hindering ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:00:12 No.19622244 Report

Quoted By: >>19622262

>Give annoying defensive guys like Blissey Shadow Tag.
>Sableye or Spiritomb with Wonder Guard means only fairy moves can hurt him now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:00:39 No.19622250 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622226
>staraptor
>not Braviary

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:01:22 No.19622260 Report

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Guts Slaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:01:30 No.19622262 Report

Quoted By: >>19622839

>>19622244
Spiritomb would be cool but Sableye is still better with Prankster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:01:42 No.19622266 Report

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Wonder Guard M-Sableye (with all 100 extra point split between defenses)

Prank then tank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:02:43 No.19622275 Report

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Shedinja with Endeavor and Shadow Sneak (Does he already learn that?) Might not be broken, but sure would be annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:05:05 No.19622315 Report

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>>19622128
>Thought Claws
>SpAtk version of Tough Claws.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:06:17 No.19622331 Report

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Dark Void on Galvantula.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:10:50 No.19622377 Report

Quoted By: >>19622464

What if Mega Houndoom had, like, Drought but it powered up Dark moves?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:11:44 No.19622388 Report

Quoted By: >>19622425

All you gotta do is slap Vital Spirit on Slaking and you're good to go.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:12:02 No.19622389 Report

Quoted By: >>19624340

Quiver Dance or a move that boosts speed and satk. Volcarona 2.0 - automatic sun version.

All it's missing to become as threatening as its brother is a boosting move. Predicting whether a Charizard will DD or QD on its first turn will be hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:12:20 No.19622393 Report

Quoted By: >>19622491

Would a Mega Spiritomb with 50+ in each defense and Filter be broken?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:16:08 No.19622425 Report

Quoted By: >>19622442 >>19629373

>>19622388
What would be scarier on Slakong, Unaware or Furcoat?

>Furcoat Assvest Slaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:17:41 No.19622442 Report

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>>19622425
Fur Coat, definitely.
252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Focus Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Fur Coat Slaking: 308-363 (69.6 - 82.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:19:34 No.19622458 Report

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Espeon with Geomancy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:19:48 No.19622464 Report

Quoted By: >>19622480 >>19622485

>>19622377

Let's call it Eternal Night for maximum edge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:21:40 No.19622480 Report

Quoted By: >>19623069

>>19622464
>Not Imperishable Night

Step it up anon-senpai

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:22:16 No.19622483 Report

Quoted By: >>19623052

Wonder Guard Drapion/Skuntank.
Give it an air balloon and its invincible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:22:49 No.19622485 Report

Quoted By: >>19622494

>>19622464

>Impenetrable Darkness

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:23:13 No.19622491 Report

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>>19622393
>filter
>1 weakness

>Sylveon with Fur Coat
Infinite bulk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:23:29 No.19622494 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622485
lewd

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:25:51 No.19622517 Report

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>>19622085
Quiver Dance + Boomburst on Gardevoir
Pixilate on Carbink
Recover on Wobbuffet
Perish Song on Wobbuffet and Gothitelle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:33:12 No.19622568 Report

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Magic Guard on Articuno might not be completely broken, but it would be right up there with Gliscor in terms of annoying walls.
>Doesn't lose 1/2 health from stealth rock
>Poison/Burn does nothing
>Substitute-Roost-Toxic moveset is already there
>High special defense and decent bulk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:40:08 No.19622627 Report

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>kek king
>speed boost/moxie

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:40:26 No.19622630 Report

Quoted By: >>19622677

>>19622099
>paper defenses
>broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:44:58 No.19622677 Report

Quoted By: >>19623974

>>19622630
>implying defences matter with 150 base speed, 180 offenses and 80BP priority
>implying Deoxys-A would be sent in against something it can't defeat or scare out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:48:50 No.19622712 Report

Quoted By: >>19622729

How about Typhlosion with No Guard? Inferno all day every day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:49:47 No.19622718 Report

Quoted By: >>19622725 >>19622754 >>19625021

>>19622085
Brace Yourselves:
Extremespeed Mega-Mom

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:50:12 No.19622719 Report

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>>19622102

> Gale Flare

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:50:52 No.19622725 Report

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>>19622718
Truly this is hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:51:22 No.19622729 Report

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>>19622712
>inferno and focus blast with 100% chance of hitting
Yes please

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 22:54:05 No.19622754 Report

Quoted By: >>19622811 >>19622820

>>19622718
>Extremespeed Mega-Mom

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:01:07 No.19622811 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622754

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:01:43 No.19622820 Report

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>>19622754
>Extreemspeed Mega-Pinsir

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:03:13 No.19622836 Report

Quoted By: >>19622975 >>19623033 >>19628511

>Control+F "Shell Smash"
>No dice

kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:03:37 No.19622839 Report

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>>19622262
>17 immunities
>reliable recovery
That and there's only a few Pokemon that can viably run a surprise Fairy move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:07:18 No.19622900 Report

Quoted By: >>19622930 >>19622955

>>19622234
Archeops with a non-hindering ability would be good but not broken, especially in the current metagame. Base speed of 110 and poor defenses as well as weaknesses to Mach Punch, Aqua Jet and Ice Shard just doesn't cut it.

Now, if it got a better ability, and a decent boosting move such as, for instance, Dragon Dance (or even some good special coverage moves to make it more unpredictable as it does have 110 base SpA), that would be a different story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:07:52 No.19622906 Report

Quoted By:

Give Slaking Entrainment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:10:13 No.19622930 Report

Quoted By: >>19622943 >>19622995

>>19622900
Gale Wings?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:11:26 No.19622943 Report

Quoted By: >>19622992

>>19622930

>Gale Wings Flying Gem Acrobatics

pls no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:12:50 No.19622955 Report

Quoted By: >>19622995

>>19622900
>weakness to Mach Punch
It doesn't have that, though.

Also, what would happen if you were to trade Mega Aerodactyl and Mega Sceptile's abilities? How about their secondary typings instead, provided Treecko picks up Air Slash and possibly Hurricane as Egg moves along the way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:14:58 No.19622975 Report

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>>19622836
You could give it to Vaporeon, I guess? It has Baton Pass, and stuff like Acid Armor or whatever could offset the lost defense if you need it to. I always thought it was kind of a clunky move. Powerful, but clunky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:16:25 No.19622992 Report

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>>19622943
I mean, thematically it doesn't make any sense, but it's Pokemon, fuck it.

It would be glorious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:16:30 No.19622995 Report

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>>19622930
Well obv that would be good, it was more the "any non-hindering ability" part that I was referring to.

>>19622955
Oh right, derp. I meant Bullet Punch.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:17:38 No.19623004 Report

Quoted By: >>19623050

Deoxys gets Stance Change with King's Shield as a move tutor
King's Shield activates Defense form
Psycho Boost activates Attack form
Agility activates Speed form

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:20:21 No.19623033 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622836
Shell Smash Mega-Mom

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:20:28 No.19623036 Report

Quoted By: >>19623049 >>19623058

>archeops
>rock head ability
>head smash
>brave bird
>dragon dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:22:46 No.19623049 Report

Quoted By: >>19623074

>>19623036
>archeops
>any non-negative ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:22:47 No.19623050 Report

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>>19623004
Wouldn't it work better if it just worked the same way as it does for Aegislash? King's Shield activating Defense forme, and any attack activatiing Attack forme. Otherwise you'd get fucking rekt by all dark types since you can't stance change.

Deoxys is also too fast to make good use of stance change, no? If it doesn't OHKO, it's dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:23:06 No.19623052 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622483
>penisbutt breaks the mold

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Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:23:41 No.19623058 Report

Quoted By: >>19623098

>>19623036
>not magic guard which not only provides immunity to recoil but also status damage and sneaky pebbles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:24:54 No.19623069 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622480
Touhou pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:25:53 No.19623074 Report

Quoted By: >>19623258 >>19628572 >>19629866

>>19623049
Would that break archeops, or would it just be OU? Say it got Run Away, or Honey Gather, or another useless but not harmful ability. It'd jump to OU, but would it really be broken?

I ____ think so

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:28:28 No.19623098 Report

Quoted By:

>>19623058
I thought of it, but rock head seemed more logical, archeops being a rock type and all
i didn't actually think of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Jun 2014 23:43:26 No.19623258 Report

Quoted By: >>19625179 >>19627555

>>19623074
Why the hell would Archeops be anything even close to broken? It's typing is shit and its stats are not even that good. It'd probably not even be prominent in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:42:39 No.19623974 Report

Quoted By: >>19629553

>>19622677
Aegislash used Shadow Sneak!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:49:34 No.19624091 Report

Quoted By:

contrary darmanitan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 00:56:03 No.19624194 Report

Quoted By:

HA Serperior with V-Create

1984

1984 Sun 15 Jun 2014 01:02:22 No.19624290 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622085
No OP give that Protean

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 01:05:28 No.19624340 Report

Quoted By: >>19628203

>>19622389
What is dragon dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 01:06:45 No.19624358 Report

Quoted By:

Sandtrap Flygon?
Maybe good for OU? Maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 01:09:09 No.19624395 Report

Quoted By: >>19624491

Give Gengar Nasty Plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 01:15:00 No.19624491 Report

Quoted By:

>>19624395
or even better, shadow tag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 02:00:41 No.19625021 Report

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>>19622718
>implying mega mom isn't already broken

Anyway, to be on topic: Weavile getting the new and fantastic ability known as Adaptability.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 02:14:55 No.19625179 Report

Quoted By: >>19627587

>>19623258
>140 attack
>110 speed
>not that good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 02:35:16 No.19625460 Report

Quoted By:

Natural Cure Ferrothorn.

Parental Bond Snorlax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 05:05:53 No.19627435 Report

Quoted By:

regenerator shrekle?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 05:13:49 No.19627539 Report

Quoted By:

Guillotine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 05:14:50 No.19627555 Report

Quoted By: >>19627808

>>19623258
Showdown had an OM called Almost Any Ability where people could put almost any ability on any pokemon.

Archeops was put in the same group as Regigigas, Slaking and Black Kyurem; Banned.

If it has anything other than Defeatist it would be top tier at worst.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 05:16:54 No.19627587 Report

Quoted By: >>19627615 >>19627691 >>19627730

>>19625179
>weak to sr
>weak to ice shard
>weak to bullet punch
>has no form of priority
>shit defenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 05:19:05 No.19627615 Report

Quoted By:

>>19627587
A good number of the pokemon that run those things can't directly switch in without taking massive damage.

I'll give you Donphan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 05:24:07 No.19627674 Report

Quoted By: >>19627726 >>19628486

Shuckle - Arena Trap.
Shuckle - Regenerator.
Shuckle - Slack Off.
Shuckle - Leech Seed.
Vespiquen - Simple.
Vespiquen - Filter.
Chansey - Prankster.
Breloom - Skill Link.
Breloom - Knock Off.
Slowking - King's Shield. Hue hue hue.
Whimsicott - Whirlwind.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 05:25:06 No.19627691 Report

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>>19627587
Oh it's weak to rocks and has shit defenses! It would end up in the dumpster just like Charizard and Talonflame. Good thing it isn't weak to Mach Punch too, because then it would become as useless as Tyranitar or Excadrill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 05:28:06 No.19627726 Report

Quoted By:

>>19627674
whirlwind would only become -6 but those others are bretty gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 05:28:15 No.19627730 Report

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>>19627587
>weak to sr
Talonflame confirmed for NU

>Ice Shard
Anything except Donphan that can use this gets BTFO by Head Smash/Stone Miss.
It won't one-shot anyway and you'll go down to the following attack.

>Bullet Punch
Only a couple of viable Pokemon learn this and Scizor is the only one I can think of that can switch in without risking a OHKO if they get predicted.

>has no form of priority
Granted. Although that's hardly crippling.

>Shit defenses
Oh look, it's (almost) every sweeper ever!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 05:29:52 No.19627744 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622085
Prankster Smeargle.
Straight to ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 05:36:34 No.19627808 Report

Quoted By: >>19628193

>>19627555
Sorry, but how is 75/140/65/112/65/110 better than, say, Thundurus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 06:02:17 No.19628133 Report

Quoted By:

sucker punch gyarados
spore sceptile

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 06:06:45 No.19628173 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622106
yeah, because Marowak needs more power, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 06:08:27 No.19628193 Report

Quoted By:

>>19627808
A lot of pokemon can't just switch into it and expect to clean house. Most physically defensive threats can get severely damaged by a well run mixed set, and any sweeper that has the potential to immediately deal with it the moment it shows up can't directly switch in.

Thundurus is good in its own right and the two aren't immediately comparable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 06:10:14 No.19628203 Report

Quoted By:

>>19624340
A move that does not increase SpA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 06:50:32 No.19628486 Report

Quoted By:

>>19627674
knock off assvest Ttar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 06:51:55 No.19628511 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622836
Shell Smash rhyperior, please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 06:58:34 No.19628572 Report

Quoted By:

>>19623074
Archeops' type means it can never be broken. There's priority everywhere that can wreck it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 07:13:25 No.19628667 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622085
Marowak gets any priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 07:19:30 No.19628697 Report

Quoted By:

Mega Ninetales with Compound Eyes.
Lati@s get Aura Sphere.
Azumarill gets Extremespeed.
Bisharp learns Mach Punch.
Mega Sceptile gets Multiscale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 08:03:47 No.19628954 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622085
Umbreon gets Magic Bounce

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 08:46:41 No.19629294 Report

Quoted By:

cryogonal gets no guard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 08:58:40 No.19629373 Report

Quoted By:

>>19622425
>Slakong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 09:25:38 No.19629553 Report

Quoted By:

>>19623974
It's not very effective...

You know, because he fucking SWITCHED which people seem to forget you can do in this game on /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jun 2014 10:09:03 No.19629866 Report

Quoted By:

>>19623074
Honestly now, it would probably end up in UU's BL.
It's killed by basically anything so it won't see much use in OU but is way too strong for UU too.

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