Anonymous
Talking about Rayquaza, might you rate my RayDelReshiBoar deck?
Anonymous
From plasma to XY4. Boundaries Crossed rotated.
Anonymous
>>19728283 with that rotation, keldeo/rayquaza ex are out right
Anonymous
>>19728315 Keldeo got a reprint on legendary treasures, so it's ok. Rayquaza ex is out, tho.
Anonymous
Furious Fists looks fun as hell. Too bad grass still seems sort of useless and Hawlucha isn't that great. Love the full arts though.
Anonymous
>>19728605 If skyla goes out all the stage 2 decks will be affected, no more searching for rare candy
Anonymous
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>>19728634 People could start using Evosoda and everything could be awful.
Though speaking of furious fists, Korrina being Skyla+Pokemon searcher is just lovely. Definitely building Machamp+Lucario EX +20 dancing once that comes in.
Anonymous
Wait...will N go out too?
Anonymous
What should come back?>Dark pokemon >Light pokemon >Delta species >Shining >Kadabra
Anonymous
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>>19728897 N has a really recent BW promo. Like the very last one or something like that.
He's staying even if Boundaries Crossed gets cut.
>>19728992 Fucking Delta Species was the best and all the art for it was always so beautiful.
A part of my mind wants more silly concepts like LEGEND cards.
We haven't actually had gym leader cards in a while I think. We got Team Plasma's Pokemon instead and they turned into their entire own thing
I found a box the other day with some of the cards from my first ever competitive deck. I really miss playing Flareon/Cofagrigus sometimes.
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>>19728255 Take out Tool Scrapper for Startling Megaphone
Anonymous
>>19729694 Speaking of Flareon/Cofagrigus, I was looking at that Lucario/Cofagrigus/Milotic deck and it seemed interesting. Especially combined with Plasma Gigigear
Anyone try it out with that in mind? Thetopcut's video is pure powering up Lucario with no fallout plan if he faces something that can OHKO Lucario or something. That fear goes really far down if EXes are taken out of damage.
Also for being Steel/Fighting, how does that work in terms of weaknesses and resistances? Is Xerneas weak to Dual Armor Lucario? What happens if there's a Pokemon who's weak to metal and resists fighting or something?
Anonymous
>>19728188 Is that card a remake of this?
I can't help but think it is
Anonymous
>>19728283 Wait, is that a confirmation or a guess?
Anonymous
>>19728335 Rayquaza got a reprint in the tin promos. It could still be in depending on how far they rotate through the BW promos.
Anonymous
>>19730342 Lots of pokemon see new printings that either function similarly or identically, even going all the way back to Base Set. The current Blastoise is very similar to the original.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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I'm back.
>>19730589 It's just a guess, we won't know anything until July or August.
>>19730609 Rayquaza EX has a very high chance of getting rotated, remember that 32 BW Black Star promos (one of the more recent ones being Tropical Beach's 2011 print) were rotated out when we moved to NXD-on.
Anonymous
>>19730665 Ah.
I've noticed that the new Rayquaza has more uses as well, and has a bit more HP.
I'm assuming the older one is completely unviable? (aside from set rotation of course)
Anonymous
>>19730836 Actually, they have the exact same moves.
Rhythm Emotion !QT3.14Labw
>tfw Sableye DEX will be rotated out soon
Anonymous
>>19730836 >>19730859 Well, Celestial Roar is a more reliable attack than Spiral Growth, but they both accomplish the same basic task of powering up Rayquaza. Dragon Burst is identical except for damage.
I do miss the days when there were Stage 1 and 2 ex pokemon. This whole "play Charizard as a Basic" shit started with Platinum and needs to stop.
Anonymous
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>>19730863 Dark Explorers gave us the best support engine since Team Galactic's shenanigans in the Platinum era.
CommanderInTheFlames !DBokVFBeyo
>>19728255 Extensively tested this. Emboar/Rayquaza with 1-1 Delphox is better. Delphox is just not good enough as an attacker currently.
Otherwise
-1 Juniper
-1 Outrage Reshiram
+1 Skyla
-2 Tool Scrapper
+2 Startling Megaphone
-2 Colress
+1 Rare Candy
+1 Sacred Ash
>>19728605 In by 'fun as hell' you mean Lucario EX the format. (F)(F) 60, draw to six is absolutely insane when Strong Energy, Muscle Band and the Fighting stadium are supporting it. Granted Mewtwo EX is a great check but at that point it's Mewtwo EX wars and we're back to Next Destinies.
>>19728634 Korrina can fetch Items. It's basically Skyla+
>>19730342 Yup. Rayquaza EX is an update of that.
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And, in true Japanese style, they've announced the fourth set, Phantom Gate. It will feature Mega Gengar EX, in addition to basic Dialga EX and Aegislash EX. We're most likely to see Mega Banette EX but knowing how PTCG deep down doesn't have a clue we might end up seeing Mega Ampharos EX of all things.
Anonymous
Here's quite a few Pokemon online TCG codes. These are all from the Flashfire expansion. Have fun and report back with what you get.
CommanderInTheFlames !DBokVFBeyo
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>>19733733 Much appreciated. Seemed to be a race to see who could redeem them all first - managed to get 21 of them. Opened one (pic related) and keeping the rest to use as trade fodder.
Rhythm Emotion !QT3.14Labw
>>19733298 We already had a Dialga EX a few sets ago. I'm still waiting for my Arceus EX ;~;
>>19733733 Internet is going so slow.... Managed to at least open two packs. Got this! :D
But no charizard EX to use it.... Anonymous
I'm planning to buy a booster box but can't seem to decide about xy or flashfire, wich one is better or has better pull-rates?
CommanderInTheFlames !DBokVFBeyo
>>19734275 Both really aren't that good for pulls but Flashfire is far better than XY.
Anonymous
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>>19734416 Yeah...flashfire has better cards, and remember that in xy you'll end with a shit ton of energies.
CommanderInTheFlames !DBokVFBeyo
Alright, here's summet to get people discussing things in this here TCG general, and see what many of you see in the current format. Here's the template.
1juniperfag
>>19728255 dude ... here you have i've got an awesome background in europe any question just ask !
3-0-3 emboar
2-0-2 deplhox
3 rayquaza ex
2 reshiram (outrage )
1 jirachi Ex
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1 lisandre
1 juniper
3 colress
4 N
4 skyla
4 super energy retrieval
2 professor letter
3 ultra ball
1 level ball
3 candy
2 megaphone
1 switch
1 escape rope
1 dowsin machine
2 tropical beach
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2 lightning
9 fire
i find this the best list to use ... any question just ask mate !
inb4 only 1 juniper fag...
- I only use 1 juniper because i do not want to discard important stuff..
Critical Kris-chan 0576-5779-5540
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>>19735472 Garbodor is unreliable as balls I havent had any success with that shit.
Anonymous
>>19735525 Are you that one guy from Norway or something that got shit in Virbank City for playing just 1 Juniper?
1juniperfag
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>>19735554 I Don't think so mate... last time i checked i was portuguese :v
Anonymous
Why the fuck are booster boxes so expensive. Holy shit. How do I get around this while still getting a ton of cards?
NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY
>>19735684 You can find them online for $85-90 plus shipping. Even with shipping costs, they're much cheaper than getting them at a store.
Anonymous
>>19735748 I'm scared to buy online since I think that thay will sell me packs that they had weighted and/or resealed packs
NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY
>>19736197 That's why you buy sealed booster boxes and not 36 loose packs.
Anonymous
>>19736363 They might reseal the box :( I've never bought boxes because I'm always afraid
Anonymous
Cheap decks. That work. And won't go out of rotation or whatever you guys use soon. This seems fun but I don't want to invest heavily into a game where everything just dumps its value at the end of a cycle.
Anonymous
>>19738724 Resealed boxes are stupidly easy to tell. There's no good way to remove the plastic without stretching it.
Anonymous
Looks like Fighting-types are going to get shat on just as they're running out of the gate, the next set's going to be Psychic-type themed.
>As we learned several months ago before Rising Fist was even revealed, Japan's XY4 set will be named Phantom Gate and is set to be released on September 13th! Like the type-themed sets before it, Phantom Gate will focus on Psychic-type Pokemon, featuring Gengar-EX and M Gengar-EX as its set mascots a la Charizard and Lucario for Wild Blaze and Furious Fists. The set will have at least 88 cards. Japan's also getting a deck featuring a new Aegislash EX card and a possibly-new Dialga EX, which will probably be mixed into Phantom Gate's international release when it's released. Oh, and WPM believes that the "Delta Emerald" trademark that was discovered a few months ago is TCG-related.
>>19738786 >Resealed boxes are stupidly easy to tell. Seconded, the easiest way is to see if the plastic wrap has the standard Poke Ball pattern or not.
Anonymous
>>19738877 But since I live outside the US it will ne fucking hard to order online, wait to receive the box and check....do you by any chance know somewhere where I can order a box that ships to central america?
Anonymous
>>19733870 >>19733298 Legendaries without a current EX printing:
>Suicune >Regirock >Regice >Uxie >Mesprit >Azelf >Manaphy >Phione >Arceus >Zygarde >Diancie >and the two unreleased event legendaries However, the PLB print of Suicune may have considered as completing the trio, given it's anti-EX gimmick. The missing Regis haven't seen print since the 3rd gen sets. The lake guardians saw print in non-EX forms in PLB, but we all know how useful those are. Manaphy and Phione are understandable, though Phione's only appearance since 2008's Majestic Dawn was in Legendary Treasures. Arceus hasn't been seen since Platinum Arceus, which has been its only appearance, though there were like fifteen of them in that set. The missing 6th gen legends are understandable since we're not even halfway into 6th gen sets yet.
Anonymous
>>19738774 Buy tins instead of boxes, buy singles instead of boosters, buy promos instead of singles of powerful cards. Stay away from deck archetypes that require cards like Tropical Beach, they're not worth it.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>19738923 I order from Dave and Adam's card world and they have pretty good prices and ship internationally. Dunno what shipping charges would apply for your country with customs but you could hit them up.
Anonymous
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Does anyone know where can I buy booster boxes in charlotte NC?
Anonymous
>Five year old daughter comes home from school >Asks me for Pokemon cards >Tear up a little >Buy her a pack >Pull a full art Yveltal Ex >Buy a second pack >Pull a full art Mega Blastoise >Both cards are like $25 cards >The adult in me wants to sell them >The child in me knows I would have hated my parents for doing the same with my Charizard
Anonymous
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>>19740318 Trade her both cards for a Xerneas EX tin
Rhythm Emotion !QT3.14Labw
I fucking hate TCGO's shuffle mechanic. I either draw too many supporters, or too many energies. It's never an equal amount no matter how many times I adjust the deck.
Anonymous
>>19728992 >Kadabra Make my waifu happy again, Nintendo.
Anonymous
>>19740663 Yeah. Fuck randomness, we want patterns!
Rhythm Emotion !QT3.14Labw
>>19740796 I already have patterns tho. This was my starting hand and it nearly happens all the time. After using N/Shauna, I practically get back what I just shuffled into the deck. I would get three more supporters just from one. And if I take out one N or one Shauna then it's like I never draw any of them. Same with Juniper.
I know I have the shittiest luck in the world, but I was really hoping it wouldn't extend into the stuff I enjoy...
Anonymous
>>19740318 >full art mega blastoise nice one mate, almost
Anonymous
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>>19738923 where are you from? just look in facebook hobby shops, i found mine recently
Anonymous
what's more profitable, trading away my soon to be rotated cards, such as prism energy before the rotation, or after it?
Anonymous
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>>19740318 Don't go jew on your daughter.
It ain't like she got a Power Nine, if you are worried about her ripping up the cards put em up in picture frames and have in her room to show off.
Anonymous
>>19741046 You're calling coincidences in randomness 'patterns'. That is illogical.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>19740785 Pity that Uri Geller is still alive, though.
Well, that and Alakazam having a Mega Evolution possibly renders the chance next-to-impossible now.
>>19742112 Before is usually the way to go for things that are going to be lost to the yearly rotation, folks always need tournament-viable stuff for Nationals and Worlds.
But that's IF, and only if, you're in areas where National and World Championships are held (US Nationals is in Indianapolis and Worlds is in Washington, DC). If you're not, you're better off selling 'em online via eBay.
Another thing to remember is that TPCi is adding a new BW-on format come the 2014-2015 season.
Anonymous
>>19731070 >play against someone >every single card he has is a fucking EX It's gotten ridiculous to the point I have 4 of these fuckers
>people get mad when you play it since they can't do jackshit Not my fault you only have EXes, you fuck.
Anonymous
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I grabbed a few 3-pack blister the the other day, and pulled (among a few minor things) M Charizard X. I've never built a deck and attempted to play, but I'm curious as to what I should do with this guy.
Critical Kris-chan 0576-5779-5540
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>>19742720 >randomness No, TCGO has an absolutely horrible RNG.
TCG
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guise any more pack codes for TCGO?
Anonymous
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Do they make any cheaper TCG albums? Like, I'm looking for a small 4 card spread like this old one I have.
Rhythm Emotion !QT3.14Labw
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>>19742720 I have the same deck in real life. I've never had draws as shitty as the ones in the TCGO. I swear the TCGO's RNG is the worst. And this is TCPi we're talking about here.
If those are "coincidences" then they occur fucking a lot. Which defeats the "randomness" aspect, just a little.
Anonymous
>>19741887 Sorry, just looked at it, it's a full art Blastoise Ex.
CommanderInTheFlames !DBokVFBeyo
>>19749624 The PTCGO got recently updated, with one of the best changes being that, after finishing a ranked match, you get a spin on a 'wheel of fortune' which has either 1-5 trainer tokens, a tournament ticket or a 'mystery box' which contains BW black star promos and additional trainer tokens. The price for this is that the servers have got worse - the connection has broke twice now, once kicking me out of a match seconds before wrecking a PlasBad's Lugia EX with my Raichu.
yes I got fed up of losing with chandelure/reshiram so I said fuck it and went pyroar/leafeon/raichu. works nicely when it does. other times it's painfully inconsistent Other changes include improved decklists for the Trainer Challenge opponents (mainly muscle bands, hard charms and other XY trainers) and there is now proper battle music, which intensifies once either side is on 2 prizes or less.
Anonymous
>>19749885 I've got red genesect promo twice, is it always the same card? (is it worth anything?) Also, there was a time where the box gave me an invisible item. if I clicked "info" it said "enjoy your tokens"
Anonymous
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>>19752857 I've got the mystery box once. It was 1 token.
I'd grind for more of them, but I don't have a competent standard deck. The unlimited deck that I use is also bad, but fun.
It is too bad they broke the unlimited queue. You can't find your unlimited decks under unlimited, only under standard. When you try to use them, it tells you that you can't play an unlimited deck in a standard match...
I just wish pokemon would hire some developers who knew what they were doing. I have to download the new client every single time because the updater doesn't work. This game is seriously a piece of shit. If it were any good I would actually invest some money in some cards.
Anonymous
Going to leave my Garchomp-EX codes from that email here, since I have no use for them. Take and redeem them if you like.
Critical Kris-chan 0576-5779-5540
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>>19756056 Thank you very kindly
Anonymous
This card is reprinted.
Anonymous
>>19739150 >Arceus hasn't been seen since Platinum Arceus, which has been its only appearance, though there were like fifteen of them in that set. Personally I think I can live without ever seeing another Arceus card.
Anonymous
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>>19756748 That card was my nigga until they rotated Stormfront out early because Sableye.
Critical Kris-chan 0576-5779-5540
>>19756748 >Knock out any basic pokemon >Non-mega EX are basic >For one energy >Can do up to 200 damage to evolved pokemon >Will likely gain HP and maybe even a damage boost because power creep lol Take a wild guess
Rhythm Emotion !QT3.14Labw
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Garchomp EX code: 6PA-8XPN-Q6V-GJL
>>19756748 new meta when
Anonymous
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>>19740796 niqqa pls, its like you never played ptcgo.
the RNG of that game is fucking AWFUL
also, its tails biased on coins FIRST then has a balancing algorythm
that client has so much wasted potential being run by idiots
Anonymous
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>>19756806 Change Take Out to do only 10 if the Pokemon is evolved, and have the rest of his attacks do low amounts of damage.
Anonymous
Anyone else think that the new Dedenne won't make any dent on Yveltal? It is too easily played around. Both shadow circle and wise energy movement on Y Cyclone are going to make ohkos impossible.
CommanderInTheFlames !DBokVFBeyo
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>>19757288 Well for starters if Darkrai/Yveltal decks don't want to die horrible decks post-Furious Fist they're going to be running Shadow Circle regardless, which they have to do without LaserBank.
Dedenne is really a Lugia EX killer, because the damn thing can't attack anything without staying in KO range of Energy Shot. I reckon Dedenne and Raichu are going to be played together as they combine rather nicely.
Anonymous
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>>19756766 I think everyone can, booster boxes of that set are cheaper than when it launched. They're like $75.
Anonymous
In BW-on format, do you think rayeels is a good deck?
NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY
>>19759616 It's used a lot in Japan and is actually winning shit. All versions of Eelektrik do in fact.
Anonymous
>>19759646 This is my current build, whatsapp can I change?
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>Try out the TCGO after the new "Mystery Wheel" was added to the prize pool. >Get a tournament ticket from my first win. >Get the Mystery Box in my second. >Mystery Box contains a token and pic related.
Anonymous
I bought a box of Legendary Treasures, and Flashfire, and a few singles and built my first ever Pokemon deck.
Anonymous
>>19739188 Good advice. Any decks you'd reccomend? Something that can fare well in a tourney. Are Pokemon as greedmode as Konami is with Yugioh?
Anonymous
Colton [4382-3102-9523]
This little guy's still in rotation, right?
Rhythm Emotion !QT3.14Labw
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>>19760429 Round decks tend to be really slow compared to other decks. Your biggest problem will be the fact that nearly every major EX will OHKO your pokemon, or finish it off with poison w/ virbank out.
As for advice, I'm not really that great of a TCG player, but I do know that is an awfully low amount of draw supporters.
>>19761378 Yes. It's from Plasma Storm, so odds are very likely it will stay for another year as well.
Anonymous
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>>19760429 Need more draw cards like Juniper or N, I think you have too many Colress, Lysandre and Switch, especially since your bench won't be filled too often. Also the monster ratio with Rare Candy is too much, you'll get dead cards.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
And I just did some digging, the only PR promos on the TCGO are for Legendary Treasures and
Furious Fists .
Other notable promos include...
>Plasma Landorus >Genesect (BW99) >Plasma Electrode >Darumaka >Axew Oh, and the wheel gives out retired coins as well.
>>19761378 Victini EX was reprinted in Legendary Treasures, so you're safe for another two years.
>>19760429 Look up Round decks on The Top Cut and NuggetBridge.
And as Rhythm Emotion mentioned, Round decks aren't that good in the current format (It's considered a Tier 3 deck by SixPrizes).
Here's a decklist that Pooka built a few months ago...
Pokemon
>4 Tympole (NVI, LTR) >4 Palpitoad (NVI, LTR) >4 Seismitoad (NVI, LTR) >4 Meloetta EX (LTR) Trainers
>4 Professor Juniper (BLW, DEX, PLB) or Professor Sycamore (XY) >4 N (NVI, DEX, BW Promo) >4 Skyla (BCR) >4 Colress (PLS) >1 Dowsing Machine (PLS) >4 Ultra Ball (DEX, PLB, FLF) >4 Rare Candy (DEX, PLB) >2 Level Ball (NXD) >2 Silver Bangle (PLB) >2 Switch (BLW, BCR) >2 Super Rod (NVI, DRV) >1 Escape Rope (PLS) Energy
>6 Water Energy >4 Double Colorless Energy (NXD, LTR, XY) Anonymous
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>>19760320 emolga is useless cuz u cant turn 1 attack anymore
junk arm got rotated
where are your fire energies
Rhythm Emotion !QT3.14Labw
What should I do?
>>19761881 Does any deck use the PR promos? I could see the Machamp PR Promo in Furious Fist getting used with Lucario, but used as in the few decks that used Hydreigon with Darkrai. Lucario can already do a lot of damage even without Machamp. 3 Strong Energies + Muscle Band + Fighting Stadium. Of course, that's the ideal (and assumes you're attacking an EX, but the strong energies alone are enough to take out any Stage 2). But that's still a lot. I feel Machamp would just get in the way of it all.
I'd rather just take the extra tokens really. The retired coins would be nice since I only have a Red Zoroark coin and a white Zoroark coin (and the Red Arceus one, of course).
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>19762100 To be honest, not really. There are decks that run Toxicroak EX and Dragalge, but those are crushed by Virizion EX and Float Stone+Keldeo (along with Garbodor, but that's a given). Tornadus EX would've seen use if was released before Plasma Freeze, but I've seen folks run it in Fairybox. The only other actively used PR promo that I know of is Altaria and that one isn't in the TCGO.
The only wheel-exclusive cards I've seen go for something on the TCGO are Plasma Landorus (because it's VERY good in Plasma/Fairybox decks as a Drakrai counter, especially when you don't want to run Landorus EX) and Machamp (because people think that it's possible to get 'em right now).
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
Rhythm Emotion !QT3.14Labw
>get mystery box >it's one token
Anonymous
>>19760320 Is that supposed to be a competitive deck? cause Eels aren't legal...
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>19765737 Ouch. I've been trying to score another Mystery Box, but all I've been getting are tokens and tickets.
Speaking of the Mystery Box, I wonder if you can win
packs from it...
>>19765834 >Is that supposed to be a competitive deck? >cause Eels aren't legal... They will be in the 2014-2015 season thanks to TPCi introducing a new BLW-on format.
Anonymous
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Since a thread is up and i got these with a Dragons of Unova collection i bought on whim and have no intention of playing the online version.
Anonymous
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Hello guys. I've been playing the TCGO recently, and I haven't played with the actual cards since middle school. Could someone enlighten me on what this mystery box is and where I can find it? I'd like new cards for this boring old deck.
Anonymous
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>>19760473 Nowhere near, and cards actually retain a little value after they've rotated out. Darkrai/Garbodor is basically peanuts now, you can get the Darkrai from tins basically anywhere (tip: Target price-matches Amazon, and you can usually find an Amazon listing for super fucking cheap). The other components you'd need to pick up from online or trading, but you can get them cheaply enough.
Flareon/Leafeon is even cheaper, but it's a nutty deck, hard to build and hard to run. You might look into Plasma, but it's a little pricier.
Anonymous
I cant seem to find a definitive answer so I thought you guys might know how much this Card Binder is worth. Its from around 2005 and is a full 3 ring binder
Anonymous
>>19766614 here's the back
Anonymous
>>19766614 >>19766623 Is that from the NYC Pokemon Center (which no longer exists?) or from one of the ones in Japan?
The Japanese merch commands a much higher value because they cycle through exclusive stuff constantly. I think the NYC store just sold collections of the stuff sold in other stores.
Anonymous
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>>19766674 (with a few exceptions, obviously)
Anonymous
>>19766674 I bought it online so I assume from the NYC Pokemon Center
Anonymous
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>>19766692 *I bought it online from the Pokemon Center website when it was up.
Anonymous
>>19742828 Garbodor laughs at you
Anonymous
>>19767063 Megaphone, Pokemon switcher and Lysandre laugh at your garbodor. hard.
Anonymous
>>19767096 It has 90 HP. That's a 3 energy Yveltal, Darkrai, damn it's nearly anything nowadays. You drop it mid-game and it's over for him. Great against a Plasma deck though. Plasma decks are predictable as fuck
Anonymous
>>19767117 People drop that thing in without energies most of the time. I just virbanklaser them and send out sableye or bouffalant (or just darkrai hitting benchpokes for easier OHKOs)
Anonymous
>>19767165 What I'm saying is that even early game, Yveltal decks try to start out with normal Yveltal and EX on the bench. That's 1 full turn knock out with Virbanklaser, or 2nd with Band. Nonetheless, Garbodor is going on the bench 2nd or 3rd turn. and shuts it down.
Sigilyph is good, but is too easy to knock out. Trust me, there is a guy in my league that uses him, and it's just fodder.
Anonymous
>>19767200 Of course its easy to knock out thats what Im saying. I'm also saying that garbodor is equally shit.
Anonymous
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>>19767207 Thing about Garbodor is, it's not an attacker like Sigilyph. Sure Garbodor is easy to knock out, everyone knows that. Today I went against a Shiftry deck, and he Lysandred it out for an easy knock out, but it put him back so far it didn't matter. What's pretty much the point
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>19767117 >Plasma decks are predictable as fuck. It really depends on which Plasma build you're facing. It's fucked if they're running Kyurem PLF, Genesect EX with G Booster, or the Fairybox's Plasma variant.
I'd add in Plasma Landorus, but that cat needs (F)(F)(C)(C) to OHKO Sigilyph (Its first attack only does a maximum of 70 when all of the requirements are met).
>>19767207 >I'm also saying that garbodor is equally shit. The problem is that most Garbodor players know when to set it up for maximum annoyance/effectiveness, which is why SixPrizes still classifies Darkrai/Garbodor decks as being Tier 1 decks.
There's not a lot of satisfaction to be had when you KO your opponent's Garbodor after they've decimated, if not flat-out KO'd, your key Ability carriers or high-Energy attackers.
Anonymous
>>19767244 It doesnt last long enough for that. It also requires too many cards if you want the setup to be reliable. You need more tools than normal and 4 additional cards for the mons themselves. This will eat up your energy acceleration, card draw, tool recycle or various other more important functions.
Anonymous
>>19767255 If it's another Darkrai/Garbodor, they aren't affected much by your putting down Garbodor, so they aren't going to target it.
If it's a Plasma Deck, they are usually too busy to use their Supporters on themselves, than to use a Lysandre. Especially early game.
Like I said, the point is to shut them down so you can target their big hitters. Once you get ahead, even if they target Garbodor, Yveltal is powered enough it doesn't matter.
Anonymous
>>19767289 Yeah if by some stroke of luck you can set it up early enough. If you want to make the setup reliable, you need to waste too many other functional card slots on that. You dont actually need the garbodor.
Anonymous
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>>19767565 >Stroke of luck You're acting like we doing have plenty of cards in rotation that can go through your deck fast.
NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY
>>19767565 >You dont actually need the garbodor. http://thetopcut.net/2014/05/29/2014-national-championship-results/ Yveltal/Garbodor is the deck with the most top 8s in the world right now. Also, Garbodor lets you attack Pyroar which nothing in typical Yveltal/Darkrai can do. Otherwise, you have to play Raichu which means you're dropping cards for a stage 1 line anyway.
Anonymous
>>19767610 Raichu isn't doing well in my league. Easily gets 1 shotted by anything, and no one is dumb enough to have a set up Yveltal out with a Pikachu on the field
Anonymous
>>19767628 Raichu is for taking out these things during/before setup, not after.
NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY
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>>19767628 If they're not setting up Yveltal, Raichu is doing its job well.
Anonymous
>>19767637 Eh, I haven't had to go against one before set up.
Even before though, Virbanklaser will force a retreat on the Raichu if it's active
Anonymous
>>19767650 Not if you're playing correctly, and if you're using switch and a float stone or two it shouldn't matter. You should always have a stadium in your deck just to counter Virbank, especially if they have the ability to retrieve their lasers.
Anonymous
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>>19767657 Myself, I have a Shadow Circle for Raichu as I know at least 1 top player runs him
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>>19766614 Anyone have any idea?
Anonymous
This guys gets a FA but not Shauna and Sycamore?
Anonymous
So apparently Anime Expo is having a Standard tournament on the final day.Empoleon/Miltank without Tropical Beach
Rhythm Emotion !QT3.14Labw
>>19770066 Probably saving them for later sets, like Prof. Juniper and Bianca.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>19770342 Garbodor/Yveltal is a safer bet. Miltank decks are, more often than not, slow to set up and that's taking Rare Candy and Evosoda into consideration.
>Without Tropical Beach Then stick with Yveltal/Garbodor or replace Empoleon for Greninja or
Butterfree , not having Beach makes Miltank/Empoleon harder to pull off.
>>19770692 Agreed, It took 6 sets for Bianca to get a FA and it took 4-8 sets for a FA Juniper to show up (That depends on if you count the DEX print, it was technically a part of Japan's Reshiram EX and Zekrom EX decks and was never a part of Dark Rush).
Critical Kris-chan 0576-5779-5540
Ive never seen miltank and/or empoleon be very successful. Tropical beach gives the opponent just as much of an advantage too, it's a terrible card in my experience going up against them.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>mfw there's a TCG General up again
Anonymous
Is there a free online TCG? I don't wanna pay for online packs.
Anonymous
Anonymous
What attackers would you put in a Ho-Oh deck in 2014?
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>>19776155 Don't know, what Ho-Oh are you using?
Anonymous
anybody know if Mega Kangaskhan will still be competitive in Furious Fists? Just finished making the deck when I heard about it
Anonymous
>>19776659 >Mega Anymon >Competitive I've yet to see any deck using any Mega do well in any match
Rhythm Emotion !QT3.14Labw
>>19776659 >relying on coin flips is now competitive I guess I'm biased and going off TCGO's horrible RNG.
>>19776692 I have a MegaZard Y deck. In real life, it's not too bad. On the TCGO it's utter shit. I face the same decks (sort of). I swear the TCGO hates me.
But yeah, compared to my Darkrai deck it's not that fantastic. I don't think Megas will ever be used really. Unless they change it so you can mega evolve first turn.
Anonymous
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>>19776754 Y is the only one really playable, but it will get eaten alive by nearly any Tier 1 deck.
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>>19777380 Druddigon and Yveltal EX is my guess
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>>19777380 As
>>19777412 said, they are meant to power Yveltal EX and surprise Druddigon drops. If I were to play Raichu instead of Garbodor, I can Y Cyclone a DCE into Raichu as well
Anonymous
>>19777412 I don't see why he'd need four of them for that.
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>>19777802 Things like Crushing/Enhanced Hammer exist, discarding DCE when you don't want to, and various things can happen
Anonymous
>>19771375 >>19771395 I'd likely play the Greninja variant if I could get my hands on them.
I know YvelGarb is pretty solid but what about all the Raichu play I've been seeing instead of using Garbodor for the mirror matches (and Pyroar, I guess.)
Anonymous
>>19774865 I use 8 dark and consider that the absolute minimum. I ran 10 for a while so you can be a little bit more careless and get more pokes powered up but you want the slots for other cards.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>Pikachu and Fennekin are the most expensive cards in the McDonalds 2014 Collection. Called it.
Oh, and I just pulled this out of a 5-card FLF pack.
>>19778934 >I'd likely play the Greninja variant if I could get my hands on them. If you're going to be in SoCal before Anime Expo, just visit Frank and Son's on Wednesday or Saturday and see if any of the vendors have singles. Greninja is pretty cheap right now (eBay has 'em going for 3-4 bucks right now).
>I know YvelGarb is pretty solid but what about all the Raichu play I've been seeing instead of using Garbodor for the mirror matches (and Pyroar, I guess.) Raichu is annoying, but it's predictable thanks it being a Stage 1 and needing DCE to do massive damage. If it becomes an issue, just tech in Shadow Circle (Shadow Circle is probably going to be a thing thanks to Lucario EX and Furious Fiss general Fighting buff) or smash its DCE away with an Enhanced Hammer.
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>>19779020 Staying with family for a few days in San Diego until AX. Know of any places near the Dana Point area?
Won't have my own car for this trip so I'll be relying on family when they are available. My question is more: which is the better Yveltal variant to run? Straight Yveltal with Raichu tech or YvelGarb with Shadow Circle?
Anonymous
>>19779020 >If it becomes an issue, just tech in Shadow Circle This. Shadow Circle, Hammers, Lysandre, Y Cyclone a DCE off. There are plenty of ways to counter Raichu. Just don't let it get the jump on you
Critical Kris-chan 0576-5779-5540
>>19779555 >Y cyclone read your Yveltal again.
Anonymous
>>19781040 Y Cyclone says "Move an Energy", it didn't specify you can only move Basic Energy
>2014 >Not reading the cards Costanza.jpg
Anonymous
Going to get back into the TCG soon, is that Mega Charizard deck Japan only?
Anonymous
>>19782124 Yeah, our pre-con/structure/theme decks are usually terrible compared to the Japanese counterparts
Anonymous
>>19782133 EX FireRed/LeafGreen's Charizard-ex, Blastoise-ex and Venusaur-ex were all originally from Japanese structure decks. The cards, both their ENG and JPN versions, are worth a mint.
On the other hand, they also get thousands of horrible "learn to play for 6-year-olds" decks, which have exclusive cards that get integrated into English sets, bloating them with garbage (on top of the rarity fuckery TPCi pulls - JPN uncommons get promoted to nonfoil rares, JPN commons get promoted to uncommons, pull rates for Ultra/Secret rares get radically slashed, ENG packs aren't guaranteed a foil card, ENG packs cost more despite being worse quality, etc.)
Rhythm Emotion !QT3.14Labw
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>>19782878 Don't forget about Pokemon Catcher. An uncommon that was harder to find than Ultra rares.
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>>19730000 >Is Xerneas weak to Dual Armor Lucario? Yes.
>What happens if there's a Pokemon who's weak to metal and resists fighting or something? Weakness is applied first, then resistance.
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>>19782878 >ENG packs aren't guaranteed a foil card Neither does the Japanese ones, each pack has 3 Commons and either 2 Uncommons or 1 Uncommon + 1 R (Regular Holo), RR (EX) or SR (Full Art or Secret Rare). In addition, even if you buy a Japanese box you are not guaranteed to open SR either since I've seen people whiff on those on youtube box openings
Critical Kris-chan 0576-5779-5540
>>19782001 No, you can move DCE... just not the opponent's DCE. Your own. It doesn't counter Raichu.
Anonymous
>>19784541 I'd think he meant "move DCE off your Yveltal EX to something else so it won't get wasted / prepare for Revenge KO", not "move your opponent's DCE around"
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>TCGO Update >6/27/2014: Tournament Test at 1 PM PDT I wonder if the servers are going to fall apart thanks to this and the new post-battle Mystery Wheel...
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>>19778988 What would you consider I could take out for the 8th basic Dark? One of the worst thing about the deck is that it is very packed as is and I already cut my third Virbank down for a Startling Megaphone / Tool Scrapper due to the occasional need to deny my opponents their Tools
Anonymous
>>19784694 what's the best theme deck (available in the shop) to use in the tournament? so far I've had decent results with basic green only.
Also, is the modified 8 ticket tournament full of T1 decks? Do I stand a chance with some of my rogue decks?
Anonymous
Got this badass mo-fo in the mail, but he has a boring matte finish instead of the super pretty glossy finish EX's usually have. Is this normal?
NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY
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>>19784892 Probably Basic Orange, you don't need to buy it either. Throh is kicking ass in theme deck mode.
Anonymous
>>19784946 Checked if it is a fake?
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hey, it's alright if I order some cards off of Amazon right? How legit is it? I know it wouldn't be fair for holos and regulars, but I'm completing Legendary Treasures set. My god it would be awesome to get the entire holographic LT set. and that Zekrom and Reshiram card.
Anonymous
umm... havent played since the old interface.
Anonymous
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>>19786958 oh nevermind, im just missing 95% of my cards.
GG
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should i buy every single holographic card off of amazon? or wouldn't that just ruin the point of collecting? I'm amazed LT Palpitoad isn't on amazon unlike the other cards.
Anonymous
whoa, Troll and Toad is quite amazing.
Anonymous
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>>19785450 Yup. I doubt that it's a fake, the holo pattern is the same (albeit duller because of the finish) and there are no grammatical/formatting errors.
Anonymous
Is yveltal/garbodor such a good option? I waa thi king about runnning darkrai/yveltal but it seems everybody thinks that the first is better....
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>>19728188 My guess is rotation will be Boundaries Crossed and everything before it, and the next rotation will be thr rest of Black & White.
I'm not going to Worlds, and I just started playing again after 10 years, so I don't know too much about popular players (besides Pooka) but my guess is a deck that everybody is familiar with will win. Either VirGen, VirGenChu, or some form of Yveltal EX, which is sad because I think these cookiecutter decks hinder competition and creativity in making decks when new sets come out.
Anonymous
>>19787716 >Troll and Toad They've got terrible prices and lackluster shipping habits.
Anonymous
>>19789290 Darkrai/Garbodor is top tier right now. Basically 2 of each with 2 Floatstones and Yveltal 3 Reg/ 4 EX is an easy victory. Verbank/lasers for added damage.
Biggest threat is Raichu as discussed above. Another threat is Pyroar what prevents attacks from basics comboed with
I forgot what card does this what prevents you from evolving. The solution is getting down Garbodor ASAP as soon as you see Litleo or else your fucked. This deck is getting more popular with my league, though none of the top players play it seriously as the deck you will always trample is Speed Lugia, what is getting less popular.
Xerneas/Aromatisse is easier than Rayboar play wise but is shit. Rayboar is decent, but I've yet to see anyone use it well.
Anonymous
So /vp/ how did you study for your professor's exam ?
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>>19790636 Where do yo recommend me to buy online cards?
Critical Kris-chan 0576-5779-5540
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>>19784583 Yeah so thats why he lumped it in with Circle, hammer and lysandre and speaks of countering raichu. Sure. It's retarded either way.
Anonymous
>>19792350 I still fail that stupid test. Mainly get the tournament rules wrong though.
For card rulings here are a few answers.
Rainbow Energy counts as every type of energy and you do not get to decide what it acts like.
Example: if a Poke uses an attack as follows
[C][C] If there is a Grass attached the Defending Pokemon is now Poisoned, if a Psychic is attacked the Defending Pokemon is now Confused
The Defending Pokemon is Poisoned and Confused.
Another example: You can use a Rainbow to act like Rayquaza's Electric requirement in a Rayboar deck, but you would have to discard it because it counts as an electric.
Player who's turn it is takes priority when Pokemon Powers/Bodies/Abilities happens simultaneously during a turn. A KO always stops all actions unless it states 'even if X is knocked out'. There is a question about an electric energy being attached to an Electrode (10HP left) with some Body or Power that does 10 Damage to any opponent's Pokemon that uses a PokeBody. Ampharos with the Conductivity Poke Body is on the opponent's bench. Ampharos Body happens first because the act of attaching Energy triggered it and did 10 damage. Electrode's Body wouldn't trigger as it was knocked out the moment Conductivity triggered. In this case, it wasn't simultaneously as there is a definite chain of events.
If you attached Heal Energy to the Electrode, Heal Energy and Ampharos would happen simultaneously. The player who attached it could decide the order; what would be heal 10, take 10 for Conductivity, Ampharos takes 10 from Electrode's effect.
HOWEVER, in between turns whoever owns the Pokemon determines what order effects happen. If you are poisoned and have some sort of effect that would heal 10 damage in between turns, you can heal first then take poison to avoid a knock out.
Old Pokemon Powers affect 'new' Pokemon Powers and Bodies. Both are different from Abilities. Example: Fossil Muk would not affect Garbodor and vice versa in Unlimited.
Anonymous
>>19792578 >Another example: You can use a Rainbow to act like Rayquaza's Electric requirement in a Rayboar deck, but you would have to discard it because it counts as an electric. Fucked it up should be
Another example: You can use a Rainbow to act like Rayquaza's Electric requirement in a Rayboar deck, but you would have to discard it because it still counts as a fire energy.
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>>19792585 Any new ruling on Weakness and Resistance is retroactive. Basically this means all Resistances are -20, and Weaknesses are X2 regardless of what the card says.
For the 'Spirit of the Game' Questions, it's all about not being a douche. Some answers being:
You can sell cards privately as long as whoever is hosting doesn't sell the same item or equivalent. Basically you can sell cards as long as the place hosting doesn't sell cards or you get permission.
If you disagree with a card ruling by a Judge or Head Judge and you are not involved in the match, it's proper procedure to wait until after the match to state your disagreement to ONLY the Judge. As a Professor, you can't even hypothetically give what would be your judgement would have been. Remember, saying your ruling if you aren't apart of the staff in the middle of the tournament might create an argument.
Overall that should cover it for the most part for card ruling and 'Spirit of the Game' Questions. Most questions are based around those rules I've answered here. Good luck next month!
Anonymous
As someone just getting back into the TCG competitively, I've been buying some discounted older packs at stores like Wal-Mart to refamiliarize myself with the game's rules/language. What's a good starting point for me to see which strategies work and what cards are important?
CommanderInTheFlames !DBokVFBeyo
Well, got back from the month's Unlimited 150 tournament, was using the same Typhlosion/Delphox/Muk deck as before. Four rounds of Swiss, same as always.>Round 1, vs mono-Fire Typhlosion/Ninetales >Round 2 vs mono-Dark Honckhrow/Darkrai
Anonymous
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>>19794423 How old are we talking about? If it's out of format, it's irrelevant.
Take a look at The Top Cut and Six Prizes to see what decks are winning the most and what cards they most commonly use.
Also, there's a possible set rotation on the horizon so I'd wait until August before putting too much money into this game. Don't want to throw down for a bunch of cards that will be illegal next format.
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>>19794779 >Round 3, vs mono-Electric Ampharos Lockdown Aie, this deck can be a pain. I at least get a decent start, and while he drops Cursed Stone to threaten damaging any of my side that has Poke-Powers (so combined with Damage Bind Ampharos meant their powers became unusable) I topdeck Tropical Beach next turn and overwrite the Stone. We do end up in a bit of a stadium war throughout, although none really do a whole lot. Unfortunately for him he gets a slow start, and a charged Delphox begins burning away his side of the board. He eventually Gust of Winds and kills Muk but he's too far behind to recover.
>Round 4, vs mono-Psychic Gardevoir/Dusknoir/Gallade This was the 'final boss' of the day, one of the best players in the format. Seeing as I can't stand Dark Palm Dusknoir and he can't stand Muk, we mutually agree to replace the offending cards for something else before the match starts.
Very little actual locking happened this game, it was more a voleyball match of whoever could keep the biggest threat alive. My start was horrendous, and I was forced to Colress for three on the third turn as I didn't have time to waste. My three cards included Tropical Beach! Getting what I need from the Beach, I'm back in the game and having to work around Sinister Hand Dusknoir, which, in true match-throwing style, I Gust out and kill with Delphox. Each of my Pokemon get Imprisoned by Gardevoir-ex but I'm already mainly set up so it didn't harm me much. Delphox does eventually get killed by Miltank this time, but it turns out my opponent had spent more Energy than he'd have liked, and, with the prizes are 5-2 in my favour, he has no ways to get enough energy to attack the half-health Unseen Forces Typhlosion who is raging for 110 each turn, and scoops.
I finish in first place with a score of 4-0, and get a promotional HG/SS DCE with a gold-print stamped 'Unlimited 150' on it, as well as 4 Flashfire packs. I pull FA Pokemon Fan Club but nothing else of note.
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HYPE HYPE HYPE
Anonymous
I'm probably gonna stream my super janky Ho-Oh deck.
Anonymous
>>19795466 WHERE?
LINK PLEASE!!!
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>Less than a minutes until Tournament time.
Anonymous
>>19795514 I'm one of two people streaming the game on twitch.
Anonymous
>>19795641 i can only find jodie ?
link plsssssssssssssss
Anonymous
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>>19795720 >/joefrags love u
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4 straight losses in a row with my theme decks fuck
NM2 !RUQvC7GrnY
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Didn't think I'd win a tournament with Charizard/Pyroar of all things.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>Win first round of a theme deck tournament. >Wheel spins (isn't this Modified-only?) and lands on the Mystery Box. >Get pic related.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>First Place with Resilient Life in a Theme Deck tournament.
Anonymous
Won both tournaments I've played so far with Ho-Oh. Currently in the 2nd round of the 3rd tourney.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>Enter my first Modified tournament of the day. >Finish match without issues barring one key card being prized. >About to start the second match. >Match starts. >Immediately catapulted into second without even starting the battle.
Rhythm Emotion !QT3.14Labw
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>>19792350 By playing the game and reading the rulebook carefully. Me and my friends came across a lot of "What would be the verdict on this?" Reading the compendium helps a lot.
http://compendium.pokegym.net/ It's really just reading the print and following the chain of commands. I'm a programmer, so it's pretty easy for me I guess.
Anonymous
Guys, between Darkrai/Yveltal and speed Lugia, wich one is better?
Anonymous
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>>19796591 Ended up winning 4/7or8 tournaments. I had some tough luck at the back end, losing in the first round twice.
Anonymous
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>>19797301 lugia is going to be dead when dedenne comes out
Anonymous
What are good theme decks? I don't really have the collection size good enough to build decent decks or the money, and I don't fancy my chances buying packs
CommanderInTheFlames !DBokVFBeyo
>>19804082 God tier theme decks
Resilient Life, Solar Strike
Good tier theme decks
Mystic Typhoon
Okay tier theme decks
Everything else
Anonymous
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>>19804730 I've got the solar strike deck but never seem to get good luck with it, so I'll try out that resilient life one and see how that goes.
