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Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 13:57:00 No.19733308 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19733334 >>19733343 >>19734387 >>19735485 >>19736349 >>19737112

I'm new to Pokemon, so I don't understand how something with no weaknesses, four resistances, good mixed attack with lots of coverage, and access to status moves like Thunder Wave is RU.

No, seriously, I'm pretty sure I can get less crap at Pokemon if I ask this question and get a decent answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 13:58:13 No.19733314 Report

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People don't use it enough, so its RU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 14:00:30 No.19733330 Report

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One of the first things that you should understand is that, for the most part, Pokemon are ranked by how often they're used. Eelektross is rarely used, so he's RU.

Another thing that you should know is that the meta is dominated by hyper offensive Pokemon; things that hit fast and hard. While he has no weaknesses, four resistances is still meager, and it is very easy for an offensive team to overpower Eelektross. Due to it's low speed, it also has a hard time scratching offensive teams before it gets taken down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 14:01:26 No.19733334 Report

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>>19733308
I don't really understand how smogon works, but I'm guessing it's because of it's low speed and low health with mediocre defence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 14:02:55 No.19733343 Report

Quoted By: >>19734810

>>19733308
>no weaknesses
What is Mold Breaker?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 14:02:58 No.19733344 Report

Quoted By: >>19733415 >>19734788

Just because it has no weaknesses doesn't make it good.

Steel resistance isn't even relevant in the metagame, its HP and Defenses makes it really fragile and the biggest problem is that its really slow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 14:17:24 No.19733415 Report

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>>19733344
but flying resistance is thanks to OU bird and Mega Pinscir introducing flying: the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 16:10:13 No.19734198 Report

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HOENN
CONFIRMED

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 16:27:16 No.19734387 Report

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>>19733308
>your favorite Pokemon will never be good enough to use
Anyways, the only problem with it is its speed. I seriously wish it could learn Agility or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 16:53:09 No.19734643 Report

Quoted By: >>19734698

It's not bad, just not spectacular.

It's better than it was last gen, though. Assault Vest is a pretty big boon for Eelektross, since it only really ever needs to run attacks and really appreciates the free special defense. With its wide movepool, good defensive typing, and great mixed offenses, its biggest downfall is definitely its speed. 60 speed is basically the bare minimum benchmark for any sort of offensive pokemon, and Eelektross misses that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 16:58:00 No.19734698 Report

Quoted By: >>19734720

>>19734643
azumarill and mega mawile are both base 50

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 17:02:02 No.19734720 Report

Quoted By: >>19734741

>>19734698
Azumarill is bulky with a good typing a and M-mawile has access to sucker punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 17:04:34 No.19734741 Report

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i use an AV eel on my tr team, but his speed really fucks him over from seeing any real play

>>19734720
and it has aqua jet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 17:09:51 No.19734788 Report

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>>19733344
>Steel resistance isn't even relevant in the metagame
Resisting bullet punch is never a bad thing. Scizor is certainly relevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 17:13:35 No.19734810 Report

Quoted By: >>19735513

>>19733343
>EVERYTHING HAS MOLD BREAKER

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 18:37:54 No.19735485 Report

Quoted By: >>19735752

>>19733308

Too slow, can't take a proper hit and 115/105 with no priority and no good boosting move isn't great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 18:41:00 No.19735513 Report

Quoted By: >>19736357

>>19734810
Most things with Mold Breaker can learn EQ. I think the only ones who can't are Hawlucha, Basculin and Mega Amphy and Excadrill is still competitive, r-right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 19:06:41 No.19735752 Report

Quoted By: >>19736318

>>19735485
>No good boosting move
>forgets Coil

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 20:05:00 No.19736304 Report

Quoted By: >>19736331

>no recovery
>meh bulk
>meh offenses
>shit speed
>shit movepool
>steel/electric are pretty pointless resists when it can't do anything back

Everything and its dog is immune to Ground, other than Smogonbird how often do you really see Flying type attacks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 20:06:09 No.19736318 Report

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>>19735752
>coil
>good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 20:07:23 No.19736331 Report

Quoted By: >>19736353

>>19736304
>no recovery
It can learn Drain Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 20:09:20 No.19736349 Report

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>>19733308
It's just slow. Also Mold Breaker. But its really not a bad Poke, tbf.

Love abusing Coil on it in doubles and UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 20:09:45 No.19736353 Report

Quoted By: >>19736368

>>19736331
by tutor in a previous gen. all you genning fags are out of luck. i honestly only use KB mon, it means i cant use thunderpunch ChariX or hyper voice garde but whatever

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 20:09:54 No.19736357 Report

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>>19735513
I don't think Amphy and Basculin ever were, at least in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 20:10:56 No.19736368 Report

Quoted By: >>19736388

>>19736353
>all you genning fags are out of luck
How so? I can make one right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 20:12:40 No.19736388 Report

Quoted By: >>19736424

>>19736368
>what are tourneys and events that allow only KB?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 20:15:17 No.19736424 Report

Quoted By: >>19738644

>>19736388
I assume you're talking about a Nintendo-hosted tournament.
In that case, you might as well not even bother using anything but Megamom and Garchomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 21:18:41 No.19737112 Report

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>>19733308
he is decent but as others have said his lack of speed and a usefull buff move(coil is nice but his physical attack pool lacks the coverage his special pool has) keeps him from being a real threat as a sweeper.

I run him tanky with some Spatt and have had a fair amount of success opening with him in singles/doubles as he has enough bulk to take at least 3 hits while he can 1 or 2HKO almost anything that isn't a Spatt sponge.

Ive been thinking about trying a coil toxic stall build at some point but stalls bore me so idk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 21:21:01 No.19737140 Report

Quoted By: >>19737191 >>19738741

Super effectiveness doesn't mean squat if you've been paying attention to Pokemon at all since Gen 4.

Dragon should be like the second worst offensive typing since it has only ever been super effective on other dragons. It should be shitty because it's neutral to almost everything but 3 types. 2 before Gen 6.
Fuck if that's the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 21:24:03 No.19737191 Report

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>>19737140
Also because high BP STAB moves (Outrage and Draco Meteor)
>tfw no special Ghost-type Outrage/Draco Meteor ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 22:05:43 No.19737616 Report

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there are a lot of people that don't know jack shit about pokemon in this thread

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Sushi Mon 23 Jun 2014 22:20:59 No.19737764 Report

Quoted By: >>19738765

If it got dragon dance and scald, I would be happy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 23:45:49 No.19738644 Report

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>>19736424
KB stands for Kalos-born. Current VGC only allows for Kalos-born Pokemon, but I wouldn't be surprised if this changes next year. First year of Gen 5 VGC had only Gen 5 Pokemon usable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 23:57:38 No.19738741 Report

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>>19737140
Dragon type is good because Dragons are almost all good. If it wasn't for all the 600 BST dragons, Dragon would suck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jun 2014 23:59:29 No.19738765 Report

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>>19737764
Why would Drifloon learn any of those moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jun 2014 09:50:41 No.19744331 Report

Quoted By: >>19744337

>>>/b/thread/552885426
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Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jun 2014 09:51:44 No.19744337 Report

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>>19744331
>>>/b/552885426
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