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Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:15:44 No.19762442 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19762454 >>19762459 >>19762461 >>19762491 >>19762503 >>19762544 >>19762562

Flareon@Flame orb
>Ability:Guts
>252Attack/252HP
>Flare Blitz
>Wish
>Protect
>Quick Attack/Toxic/Super Power

What does /vp/ think? I just thought this one up and it seems on paper to be alright. Idk about the last move slot. I would do priority over Super Power because with that low speed your not staying in on a rock type. Discuss.

illy 0490-5852-2118 (Steel: Klang, Excadrill, Magneton)

illy 0490-5852-2118 (Steel: Klang, Excadrill, Magneton) Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:16:57 No.19762454 Report

Quoted By: >>19762480

>>19762442

wait but flareon cant get burned?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:17:00 No.19762455 Report

Quoted By: >>19762480

Why would you give it a Flame Orb when it can't be burned and won't get the Guts boost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:17:23 No.19762459 Report

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>>19762442
Flareon is a shit and will always be a shit. Nothing can save it, and anything won't.

But QA is better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:17:33 No.19762461 Report

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>>19762442
>Flame Orb

Now OP, I want you to think real hard. What could be an issue here?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:18:00 No.19762469 Report

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>Flareon @ Flame Orb

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:18:33 No.19762476 Report

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Can't be burned, moron

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:18:51 No.19762480 Report

Quoted By: >>19762494 >>19762500 >>19762508

>>19762454
>>19762455
Toxic Orb whatever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:19:45 No.19762491 Report

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>>19762442
Flareon is too frail and too slow to try Wish.

Stick with Flare Blitz, Superpower, Facade, Flame Charge. If you can bring it in on something it threatens (teehee), you can increase your speed while they switch or whatever. At that point, your Toxic Orb (not Flame Orb, it can't be burned) will activate and you can try to accomplish something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:20:01 No.19762494 Report

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>>19762480
Items an important difference

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:20:19 No.19762500 Report

Quoted By: >>19762514

>>19762480
I don't think toxic-stalling while you're toxiced is a sound idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:20:40 No.19762503 Report

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>>19762442
>nocoverage
>wish/protect on a killyourself set
>using flareon ever

three strikes, you're out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:21:13 No.19762508 Report

Quoted By: >>19762605

>>19762480
If you go with Toxic Orb, replace Wish/Protect with Rest/Sleeptalk

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:21:27 No.19762514 Report

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>>19762500
Its why you pick QA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:24:40 No.19762544 Report

Quoted By: >>19762605

>>19762442
Wish/Protect on an orb user is a terrible idea. Under optimal circumstances you take 6% on the turn of wish and 13% on the turn of protect. That means you ideally heal 31%, and that is not even factoring in the damage you take from attacks, weather, and hazards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:26:30 No.19762562 Report

Quoted By: >>19762601 >>19762605 >>19762666

>>19762442
Literally everything Flareon can do, Arcanine can do better

>Flare Blitz
>Wish
>Quick attack
>Super Power

Compared to

>Flare blitz
>Morning sun
>Close combat
>Extremespeed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:29:18 No.19762601 Report

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>>19762562
This is why you only run flareon in NU or on joke teams

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:29:30 No.19762605 Report

Quoted By: >>19762635

>>19762544
>>19762508
So Rest/Sleeptalk would be better?
>>19762562
Yeah i know but with Flare Blitz added i just wanted to see if i could make a set with him

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:31:32 No.19762635 Report

Quoted By: >>19762683

>>19762605
You could try Flame Charge on him to try and get the speed boosts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:33:34 No.19762666 Report

Quoted By: >>19762720

>>19762562
Arcanine doesn't have guts. Flareon is the better glass cannon/wallbreaker facing extremely slow enemies, but on those cases you should pick Darmanitan with LO. In that case, the only advantage Flareon has is a stronger Superpower, but it lacks Rock Slide, Earthquake, U-Turn, and can't use Substitute as effectively due to constant poison damage. Although I guess CB/LO/other damage boosting item + predicting a Thunderwave or Toxic would do more damage than even Darmanitan.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:34:31 No.19762683 Report

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>>19762635
See i thought that instead of QA but with 65 speed 1 speed boost isnt doing much and good luck getting 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jun 2014 23:38:28 No.19762720 Report

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>>19762666
Maybe send it out against a Prankster user like klefki and either wait for the switch or get Thunderwaved, either way your getting guts or whoever your opponent brings in is getting a Flare blitz in the face.

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