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Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 18:30:33 No.19805575 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19805716 >>19805920 >>19806816

What would be the worst imaginable defensive typing that has not been used yet? (The worst one is probably Ice/Roc.)

Maybe Ice/Bug? Weak against Flying and Steel, double weak against Fire and Rock. Strong against Ice, Grass and Ground. Surely

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 18:43:34 No.19805716 Report

Quoted By: >>19805846 >>19805889

>>19805575
The worst is Grass/Psychic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 18:52:37 No.19805846 Report

Quoted By: >>19805947

>>19805716
Many resistances though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 18:56:04 No.19805889 Report

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>>19805716
>what is exeggutor and celebi

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 18:58:23 No.19805920 Report

Quoted By: >>19805965

>>19805575
http://pokemondb.net/type/dual
> This is calculated by adding up each effectiveness for a type combo: 1 for neutral damage, 2 for super-effective, 0.25 for a double resistance and so on.

The worst is Ice/Rock, followed by Grass/Ice then Ice/Bug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:00:35 No.19805947 Report

Quoted By: >>19805965 >>19805969

>>19805846
4 is not a lot.

Mario/maki 1736-0622-5559 (Rufflet, Doduo, Woobat)

Mario/maki 1736-0622-5559 (Rufflet, Doduo, Woobat) Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:02:24 No.19805965 Report

Quoted By: >>19806183

>>19805947
water, electric, grass, fighting, ground, psychic

>>19805920
why is ice/bug so low? 4 weaknesses and 3 resistances... i don't think it would matter if it's 2x or 4x weak unless it's meant to be another ice-type wall

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:02:33 No.19805969 Report

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>>19805947
Grass, Water, Electric, Fighting, Gound, Psychic.

In gen 1 Ghost immunity. More than 4.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:22:17 No.19806162 Report

Quoted By: >>19806233 >>19806346

Why did they make it so shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:24:37 No.19806183 Report

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>>19805965
That's just how it's added up. Clearly having a 4x weakness is worse than a 2x weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:29:15 No.19806233 Report

Quoted By: >>19806243 >>19806359

>>19806162
Honestly I think the restriction of making all fossil mons part rock it too much. Tyrantrum for example would have been better as dragon/dark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:30:08 No.19806243 Report

Quoted By: >>19806431

>>19806233
>Tyrantrum for example would have been better as dragon/dark.

Wot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:32:46 No.19806260 Report

Quoted By: >>19806271 >>19806272 >>19806275 >>19806375 >>19806962

On a related note, what's the best secondary type for Grass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:34:04 No.19806271 Report

Quoted By: >>19806431 >>19806474

>>19806260
If Ferrothorn is anything to go by, Steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:34:06 No.19806272 Report

Quoted By: >>19806431 >>19806474

>>19806260
Water, probably.

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Eagle 3781 0467 4535 Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:35:05 No.19806275 Report

Quoted By: >>19806431 >>19806474

>>19806260

Poison maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:39:56 No.19806346 Report

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>>19806162
No Power Gem
Snow Warning will never be released
Massive HP means nothing since it has 4x weakness to fighting and steel
Too slow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:41:01 No.19806359 Report

Quoted By: >>19806431

>>19806233
I suppose you think Luxeray should be part dark to

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:42:11 No.19806375 Report

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>>19806260
Rock is surprisingly a good match up for Grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:46:37 No.19806431 Report

Quoted By:

>>19806243
Yes. Hes basically a big dragon bully and Crunch is his most thematic move.

>>19806271
>>19806272
>>19806275
Those actually seem like the best three combos and in that order at well.

>>19806359
Nope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:50:00 No.19806474 Report

Quoted By: >>19806491 >>19806526 >>19806541

>>19806271
>>19806272
>>19806275
What would be a fun secondary type for grass that we don't already have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:51:18 No.19806491 Report

Quoted By: >>19806518 >>19806544

>>19806474
Fire and electric are the only types I think it hasn't been paired with

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:53:18 No.19806518 Report

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>>19806491
A grass/fire type would be pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:53:59 No.19806526 Report

Quoted By: >>19806544

>>19806474
Oh shit I forgot about Rotam Lawnmover but does he even count?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:55:20 No.19806541 Report

Quoted By: >>19806551 >>19806568 >>19806584

>>19806474
Grass/Rock
Grass/Fire
Are both equally "good" but still not as good as poison, water or steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:55:33 No.19806544 Report

Quoted By: >>19806574

>>19806491
Rotom.

>>19806526
Counts.

Also, there is no Grass/Dragon yet, but that is a terrible typing anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:55:53 No.19806551 Report

Quoted By: >>19806732

>>19806541
Cradily

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:57:26 No.19806568 Report

Quoted By: >>19806584

>>19806541
>Grass/Rock
I think there is a grass type with Grass/Rock mega potential, but I can't quite put my finger on it. Torterra maybe?

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:58:17 No.19806574 Report

Quoted By: >>19806585 >>19806588 >>19806599 >>19806732

>>19806544
>there is no Grass/Dragon yet

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:59:20 No.19806584 Report

Quoted By: >>19806599 >>19806612 >>19806732

>>19806541
>>19806568
>there is no grass/rock yet
guys come the fuck on

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:59:25 No.19806585 Report

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>>19806574
it isn't released so ther obv. isn't one yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 19:59:46 No.19806588 Report

Quoted By: >>19806614

>>19806574
I'm hoping for Mega Sceptile Alpha/Omega. This is just really underwhelming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:00:47 No.19806599 Report

Quoted By: >>19806613

>>19806574
Yes, anon. I am aware that this mega evolution of Sceptile is a thing. People have talked about it. I know that it exists.

>>19806584
I am not the one who said it does not exist yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:01:48 No.19806612 Report

Quoted By: >>19806732

>>19806584
It's so weird that grass and rock are the two types with the most weaknesses, but they make a pretty decent combination

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:01:48 No.19806613 Report

Quoted By: >>19806637

>>19806599
Nor was I talking to you specifically, anon. But why would you say there is no grass/dragon when one has been officially announced?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:01:48 No.19806614 Report

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>>19806588
What if the light bulbs blink in different colours/paterns?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:04:31 No.19806637 Report

Quoted By:

>>19806613
Because I said yet. It was hidden in that cute black box that we call "spoiler tags". I didn't want to spoil your fun of discovering it. Sorry :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:10:04 No.19806732 Report

Quoted By: >>19806789

>>19806551
>>19806584
Shit I totally forgot about that thing.

>>19806612
Its funny grass is so bad that "only" four weaknesses and a measly two resists can be considered good.

>>19806574
grass/dragon would be worthless 4x ice without all the resistances of drag/fly and drag/ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:15:06 No.19806770 Report

Quoted By: >>19806828

Grass/Fire with drought

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:18:03 No.19806789 Report

Quoted By: >>19806828

>>19806732
Grass is considered bad because it has not only five weaknesses, but it's only effective against three types yet *seven* types resist it (among them being very common types and types that are commonly paired together).

The type just got the short end of the stick when it comes to matchups.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:21:32 No.19806816 Report

Quoted By:

>>19805575
>TFW they made the only Ice/Rock a bulky

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:22:39 No.19806828 Report

Quoted By: >>19807104

>>19806770
High speed, high special atk, solarbeam, fire blast, maybe growth. Actually chlorophyll+growth with sun support might be better than drought.

>>19806789
Yep grass sucks in a straight up fight, it seem the developers tried to balance this by giving them a bunch of support moves like poison, para, sleep and leech seed but overall I don't think the checkbook balances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:38:44 No.19806962 Report

Quoted By: >>19807010

>>19806260
Pretty sure it's Grass/Steel, with Fire, Water or Ghost not too far behind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:43:47 No.19807010 Report

Quoted By: >>19807120

>>19806962
Why ghost? The two don't really interact, do they?

Mario/maki 1736-0622-5559 (Rufflet, Doduo, Woobat)

Mario/maki 1736-0622-5559 (Rufflet, Doduo, Woobat) Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:54:10 No.19807104 Report

Quoted By:

>>19806828
if only MegaSunflora

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:54:50 No.19807120 Report

Quoted By: >>19807151

>>19807010
Bug and poison loss but also gains a weakness to ghost and dark

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 20:57:54 No.19807151 Report

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>>19807120
Oh, right. I always forget about bug and poison and what they do.

Anyway, I think a dark weakness is worse than that (knock-off buff), but a ghost weakness is rather neglectable for the most part.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 21:14:47 No.19807329 Report

Quoted By: >>19807338

Wait wait wait what if we had a grass/fire type that was literately a plant thats on fire...

No wait listen its ability lowers its hp by 1/8 each turn but boosts its speed and special attack by one stage each turn.

It has maybe 80ish base spd and spatk and decent but not outstanding bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 21:15:52 No.19807338 Report

Quoted By: >>19807368

>>19807329
Knowing GF, it'll probably be a chili pepper pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Jun 2014 21:18:19 No.19807368 Report

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>>19807338
With a signature move that is a burn-equivalent of Spore.
Or a plant version of scald.

Sounds pretty cool actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 02:37:42 No.19810570 Report

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i'm getting bored of this

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