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Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 19:23:13 No.19817887 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19817907 >>19817947 >>19818131 >>19818208 >>19818212 >>19818786 >>19819643 >>19824108

How do we make this badass viable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 19:25:07 No.19817907 Report

Quoted By: >>19817924

>>19817887
I think Huge Power would kinda improve it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 19:26:39 No.19817924 Report

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>>19817907
That would improve on any physical attacker

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 19:27:03 No.19817928 Report

Quoted By: >>19827220

Water Absorb?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 19:28:57 No.19817947 Report

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>>19817887
Alchemate
Turns normal-type moves into steel-type and buffs power by 1.3x
Probably more fitting on something else, but I feel Steelix needs it most

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 19:52:34 No.19818131 Report

Quoted By: >>19823730

>>19817887
Make it's stats like this
HP: 90 (+15)
Attack: 100 (+15)
Defense: 200 (0)
Special Attack: 30 (-25)
Special Defense: 80 (+15)
Speed: 10 (-20)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 19:53:38 No.19818142 Report

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Give it a mega that has levitate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 19:55:51 No.19818160 Report

Quoted By: >>19818546

>viable
There's that word again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 19:57:27 No.19818178 Report

Quoted By: >>19818189

oh boy the hourly oudrone thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 19:58:24 No.19818189 Report

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>>19818178
>making every pokemon good is a bad thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 19:59:46 No.19818203 Report

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Just use curse

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 20:00:30 No.19818208 Report

Quoted By:

>>19817887
+15 HP and Sp.Def
+20 Attack
Give it a half decent recovery move

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 20:01:07 No.19818212 Report

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>>19817887
I use one for pebbles and phasing.

Impish - 248 Hp, 252 def, 8 attack

pebbles
roar
equake
gyro ball

I'm not sure how viable this one is, but I like it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 20:35:43 No.19818546 Report

Quoted By: >>19818907

>>19818160
Karen pls go

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:01:40 No.19818786 Report

Quoted By: >>19818927 >>19819312 >>19819457 >>19822591 >>19824800

>>19817887

> Step One
Rough Skin or Shed Skin as Steelix natural abilities beside Sturdy.
One of those being HA for Zygarde.

> Step Two
Spikes, Coil, Mirror Coat, Counter, Glare.

> Step Three
Eventual Mega Evolution that boost Attack over 100 base stats and Special Defense over 90 base stats.

Done, from Step 2 onward it can be decently used from LU/PU to some UU niche roles.

In any case more snake and similar Pokemon need Glare and Coil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:03:10 No.19818795 Report

Quoted By: >>19818945

Mega with all extra 100 points to defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:17:24 No.19818907 Report

Quoted By: >>19818915 >>19824806

>>19818546
smogon pls go

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:18:28 No.19818915 Report

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>>19818907
>implying Karen was right
Delcatty
Beedrill
Kricketune
Unown
The list goes on

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:19:45 No.19818927 Report

Quoted By: >>19818960

>>19818786
Thats turning it into an offensive wobbuffet jesus christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:21:22 No.19818945 Report

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>>19818795
You know, there's barely one physical pokemon that can OHKO Steelix

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:22:03 No.19818960 Report

Quoted By: >>19819010

>>19818927
Well, it's not like it has Arena Trap. Not yet!
But let's be realistic, at least one or two of these moves and abilities would be legit on this metallic worm-snake and its pre-evo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:26:03 No.19819010 Report

Quoted By: >>19819018 >>19819145

>>19818960
WWAAAaaaaAAAAABBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaAAA

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:27:05 No.19819018 Report

Quoted By: >>19819145

>>19819010
WOOOOOOBBUFFET

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:30:59 No.19819064 Report

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Current stats:
75/85/200/55/65/30

This is a fucking 1000 pound 30 foot long snake made of rock and steel.

What it's stats should be:
85/115/200/10/65/80

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:32:21 No.19819078 Report

Quoted By: >>19819094

Give it an evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:34:47 No.19819094 Report

Quoted By: >>19819110

>>19819078
Mega steelix
Becomes liquid like the T-1000 and sleeker instead of having rocky segmented parts

Ability is regenerator
100/130/255/25/85/100

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:35:09 No.19819098 Report

Quoted By: >>19828396

By using something else

>30 speed

>Expecting someone to not have Blaziken, Charizard X, or Talonflame on their team

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:36:59 No.19819110 Report

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>>19819094
Make that a regular evolution, then give Steelix an eviolite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:41:39 No.19819145 Report

Quoted By: >>19819406

>>19819010
>>19819018
Literally two moves in common and absolutely different type and roles.
Blastoise, Gastrodon, Deoxys, Swampert, Grumpig and Smeargle can also have the CounterCoat combo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 21:42:58 No.19819156 Report

Quoted By: >>19822982

Life orb, Sheerforce, combination of EQ, Crunch, elemental fangs, Iron Head/Iron Tail (especially with gravity support)
Max Atk and HP.
You're welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 22:01:05 No.19819312 Report

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>>19818786
That could find a place in OU as well in my opinion.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 22:12:08 No.19819406 Report

Quoted By: >>19819492

>>19819145
WOBBUFFET

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 22:18:13 No.19819457 Report

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>>19818786
glare would go great on steelix, and would fit with the snake theme of the move.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 22:21:37 No.19819492 Report

Quoted By:

>>19819406
Anon I...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 22:35:10 No.19819643 Report

Quoted By:

>>19817887
Make it pure steel type.
Give it solid rock/filter.
Drop it's useless Special stat
Give it more attack, at least 130

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 22:39:28 No.19819691 Report

Quoted By: >>19819749

Train a Garchomp and name it Steelix.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jun 2014 22:45:58 No.19819749 Report

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>>19819691
Train a Blaziken and name it Steelix

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 02:33:13 No.19822569 Report

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Give it power trick

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 02:35:00 No.19822591 Report

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>>19818786
Coil+iron tail be great

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 02:37:27 No.19822629 Report

Quoted By: >>19824338

Steelix @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Roar

Is how I play it.
Pretty viable, if he doesn't take Special Attack and Stab SE moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 03:11:53 No.19822982 Report

Quoted By: >>19823730 >>19823941

>>19819156
>Iron Head/Iron Tail
>it gets STAB Gyro Ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 04:20:39 No.19823730 Report

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>>19822982
Seeing as Gyro Ball can be it's strongest attack with the adition of Curse, I see this >>19818131 as the best stats to make him usable.
Also, give him better abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 04:36:42 No.19823892 Report

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Wish Steel still resisted Dark and Ghost. It was already a bad type, why downgrade it more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 04:41:03 No.19823941 Report

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>>19822982
Iron head and iron tail get sheerforce boost, which means no life orb recoil, and the damage isn't speed-dependent.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 04:59:50 No.19824108 Report

Quoted By: >>19827011 >>19827216

>>19817887
>ctrl+f: recover
>1 result

Shit guys stop trying to buff it's base stats and look at the single gaping hole in it's design.

70/200 is a huge physical mountain, and it's not going to realistically be buffed by stats without a mega, whereas getting a single move is possible and could support it all on it's own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 05:18:18 No.19824338 Report

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>>19822629
id rather use offensive ferrothorn tbh.

anyway what's all this bitching? Steelix was a dominant force in gen 4 uu and is still fantastic in ru

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 06:00:09 No.19824731 Report

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How about stop using him for anything other than a Physical Wall?

Seriously, just use him for what he was made for and he's a fucking monster, also use Dragon Tail but be careful of switching out into Special Attackers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 06:10:11 No.19824800 Report

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>>19818786

>LU/PU

Stop using that

I really hate whenever the abbreviation PU is used, the whole point is to make the Never Used Pokemon of NU be viable, not insult them and PU is just flat out insulting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 06:11:21 No.19824806 Report

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>>19818907
it's not smogon to acknowledge that a shit mon isn't viable
Viable just means "will I win in any competitive environment with this"
Some pokémon are bad or just terribly outclassed, get used to this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 13:54:53 No.19826824 Report

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Give it decent fucking speed.

and rapid spin and power trick

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 14:30:44 No.19827011 Report

Quoted By: >>19827216

>>19824108
100% this. Why do you think there are so many good special walls and so many not so good physical walls? It's because special walls have access to a form of recovery that doesn't turn walling into a gamble for 3 turns.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 14:51:13 No.19827188 Report

Quoted By: >>19827206

Mega Steelix
>Steel/Dragon
>75/145/210/45/105/30
>Sheer Force

Give it Coil, Dragon Rush. It's not terribly hard to justify the change to Dragon typing seeing how it has a very serpentine-like body, and two other megas have already. Staying Steel/Ground does no favors, even after the stat jump Excadrill can outclass it.

Also, we don't have any non-legendary Steel/Dragon pokemon yet. There's a first time for everything and I think Steelix as a Steel/Dragon would give it a very unique position as a pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 14:52:38 No.19827206 Report

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>>19827188
plus already gets dragon tail/breath and i could see that happening

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 14:56:15 No.19827216 Report

Quoted By:

>>19824108
>>19827011
>EQ
>Gyro Ball
>Curse
>Recover

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 14:56:31 No.19827220 Report

Quoted By: >>19827830

>>19817928
Is giving a drain ability for your weakness a new meme now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 16:19:49 No.19827830 Report

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>>19827220
Yes, WaterAbsorb/DrySkin is joing the SapSipper and HugePower+ExtremeSpeed meme family.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 17:25:00 No.19828396 Report

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>>19819098
>New ability; Resentment - increases the power of moves by 1.5 if they're used last in a turn and the user is hit (this includes double/triple battles, Steelix must be hit once and be the last one to attack for it to activate)
>Choice-Gyroball with Curse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2014 17:25:29 No.19828401 Report

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Play gen 2 or 3.

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