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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:10:52 No.19935109 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19935193 >>19935201 >>19935223 >>19935248 >>19935562 >>19935723

>tfw you lose the Grass Knot speed tie between Greninja every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:17:57 No.19935193 Report

Quoted By: >>19935271

>>19935109
>Not expecting the grass not
>Not switching into smogon bird
>Not using brave bird after switching

It's your fault

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:18:24 No.19935201 Report

Quoted By: >>19935258 >>19935271 >>19935410

>>19935109
>tfw you switch in brogoat, sip that sap and smash the toad with a rock slide next turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:19:17 No.19935209 Report

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>playing OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:20:57 No.19935223 Report

Quoted By: >>19935246

>>19935109
>grass knot
>not just u-turning the fuck out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:23:34 No.19935246 Report

Quoted By: >>19935279

>>19935223
>not understanding what a speed tie is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:23:53 No.19935248 Report

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>>19935109
>using greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:24:36 No.19935258 Report

Quoted By: >>19935283 >>19935288

>>19935201
>Ice Beam

How's Brogoat now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:25:34 No.19935271 Report

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>>19935193
>>19935201
>My opponent can't switch, only I can

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:26:16 No.19935279 Report

Quoted By: >>19935306

>>19935246
>Implying grass know can kill you
That's why you uturn.

Otherwise get a point slower than the average gren so you know you'll always be outspeed and go for ice beam agaist a grass type gren.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:26:24 No.19935283 Report

Quoted By: >>19935367

>>19935258
>ass vest

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:27:16 No.19935288 Report

Quoted By: >>19935367

>>19935258
pretty sure almost every Gogoat runs Max SpD with Bulk Up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:28:23 No.19935306 Report

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>>19935279
It can, dumbshit. LO Protean Grass Knot on a Greninja is an OHKO.

Lizerd

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Lizerd Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:29:12 No.19935319 Report

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>MFW I just have Banded Brobat on as my lead and U-Turn it into oblivion before it can disco

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:35:02 No.19935367 Report

Quoted By: >>19935406 >>19935410 >>19935452

>>19935283
>no bulk up
>no recovery

>>19935288
>252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gogoat: 268-320 (59.5 - 71.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

It doesn't outspeed so it would need to take two

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:39:05 No.19935406 Report

Quoted By: >>19935452

>>19935367
>Horn Leech
>+1 Atk from Grass Knot

>+1 152+ Atk Gogoat Rock Slide vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 286-338 (100 - 118.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It's not the be all and end all. but it works more often than you think

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:39:39 No.19935410 Report

Quoted By: >>19935470

>>19935367
>so it would need to take two

but >>19935201 said he went for grass knot, and honestly if you use ice beam on Greninja predicting a Gogoat switch in you are a bad player, you should go for the safe U-turn at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:43:20 No.19935452 Report

Quoted By: >>19935461

>>19935367
>>19935406
>252 HP
>252 SpD
>152 Atk
just how many EVs does this Gogoat have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:44:11 No.19935461 Report

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>>19935452
I only did the second one boss, I don't run sp.d as i have ass vest

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:45:15 No.19935470 Report

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>>19935410
Just saying Gogoat isn't exactly a reliable counter

It always makes me sad that Gogoat will never be OU ;_;

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 21:53:48 No.19935562 Report

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>>19935109
OP HERE
I FINALLY WON IT YES

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 22:14:16 No.19935723 Report

Quoted By: >>19935830

>>19935109

>Not using a hidden power

Just use your Hidden Power. I got steel and it works out well when I get the speed tie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 22:23:48 No.19935830 Report

Quoted By: >>19936128 >>19936324

>>19935723
Reconsider what you said and the problem that was at hand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 22:47:01 No.19936128 Report

Quoted By: >>19936324

>>19935830
Don't try to reason with someone who uses HP Steel.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2014 23:03:10 No.19936324 Report

Quoted By: >>19936606

>>19935830
>>19936128
>Not using Hidden Power with Protean.

Dumbasses, if you use hidden power steel and he gets off the grass knot second, you're set up with pretty much a turn considering you will resist the grass knot, you're faster, you can then hit him hard with an ice beam.

HP Steel also kills fairies really effectively.

Joni 1521 - 2878 - 5294 (IGN: Kawaii)

Joni 1521 - 2878 - 5294 (IGN: Kawaii) Wed 09 Jul 2014 23:20:54 No.19936606 Report

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>>19936324
>Not realizing that you can lose a Speed tie
>Using HP Steel instead of HP Fire

2/5 made me reply with more than just "this is bait".

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