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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:39:28 No.20016666 View View Reply Original Report

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so this guys is countered by Tyranitar and...
uhh and....?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:40:03 No.20016676 Report

Quoted By: >>20016683

Rotom Wash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:40:22 No.20016680 Report

Quoted By: >>20016744

>>20016666
Golem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:40:38 No.20016683 Report

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>>20016676
Also Corsola and Lanturn :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:40:43 No.20016685 Report

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>>20016666
Tyrantrum

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:40:44 No.20016687 Report

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Nearly anything with Rock as its typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:40:49 No.20016689 Report

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Barbaracle

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:40:53 No.20016693 Report

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Armaldo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:40:54 No.20016694 Report

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>6th gen is now 9 months old
>People still discussing how to counter Talonflame

Corsola

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:41:16 No.20016700 Report

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Pretty much every Rock type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:41:25 No.20016701 Report

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Carracosta. Kabutops. Hippodown. Gigalith. Bulky Thundurus. Lanturn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:41:45 No.20016708 Report

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Anything that can take at least one hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:41:48 No.20016712 Report

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>>20016666
DIGGERSBY THO?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:41:48 No.20016713 Report

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Any bulky Rock type or any bulky Pokemon that double resists
Carracosta walls the shit out of it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:41:57 No.20016715 Report

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LITERALLY NOTHING, NOT EVEN A WASHING MACHINE CAN TAKE THIS BIRD OUT

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:43:32 No.20016736 Report

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>>20016712
Check out this funny pic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:43:31 No.20016737 Report

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>>20016666

Sneaky Pebbles

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:44:01 No.20016744 Report

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>>20016680
Fuck yes, eternal bro at it again.

OP, just about any Rock-type can take it out. Unless it has Solar Beam. Good luck getting that off before you're pummeled with stones.

I only used it in the game for utility's sake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:44:29 No.20016753 Report

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>>20016666
Madoka waifu.
Nice quads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:44:35 No.20016755 Report

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Gyarados.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:45:05 No.20016765 Report

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>>20016666
even tangrowth can counter that thing.

get gut

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:45:14 No.20016768 Report

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>>20016666
Heatran. Zapdos. Aerodactyl. Mega Manectric.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:45:56 No.20016777 Report

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literally every rock type shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:46:31 No.20016784 Report

Quoted By: >>20017493

>>20016666
Soooo... superpower move tutor move in ORAS? :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:47:14 No.20016787 Report

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>>20016666

First of all switching Tyranitar into Talonflame is about as easy as switching Bisharp into Aegislash. If your opponent isn't a retard it can just U-Turn out on the switch for super effective damage.

But it does have solid counters. Rotom-W or H, Heatran, Mega Manectric but it woukd much prefer to be mega-evolved already. Mega evolved it can outspeed so Talon can't Flare Blitz. After Intimidate Mega Manectric is 3HKOd by even Banded Talon, so it can safely switch in, but only on a Brave Bird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:48:36 No.20016805 Report

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Carracosta
Best bro, bulky as shit and can sweep

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:50:28 No.20016829 Report

Quoted By: >>20016897

>>20016787
Or he can also will-o-wisp you and start to bulk up in your faggot face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:51:17 No.20016837 Report

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I run rhyperior or sometimes golem for the extra butthurts, beaides ttar isnt that great of a counter he gets a good chunk of damge from a CB u-turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:51:37 No.20016841 Report

Quoted By: >>20016886

>over eight months after XY release
>there are STILL people who don't know how to handle Talonflame
>there are STILL people who think it's overpowered
God what the hell. Like I would understand if it was something that was *actually* a little OP like Aegislash, Mega Maw or Mega X-zard, but Talonflame? Fucking really?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:55:03 No.20016886 Report

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>>20016841
There is absolutely nothing in this game that can't be handled in doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:56:00 No.20016897 Report

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>>20016829

Uh....which of those four pokemon I listed minds a burn? Two are special attackers and the other two are immune to burn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:57:22 No.20016910 Report

Quoted By: >>20016935 >>20016938

>>20016886
Specs Kyogre with Dual Screen/Redirect support.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:58:38 No.20016928 Report

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I use physically defensive jellicent holding rocky helmet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:59:19 No.20016935 Report

Quoted By: >>20016961

>>20016910
Storm Drain, Dry Skin, Water Absorb, Shedinja.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:59:25 No.20016937 Report

Quoted By: >>20017122 >>20018783

>mfw sword dancer talonflame
>still rekting stuff and clean-sweep after my team taking his counters/weaken them enough for clean

I fucking love this bird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 19:59:26 No.20016938 Report

Quoted By: >>20016961

>>20016910
Storm Drain

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:01:26 No.20016961 Report

Quoted By: >>20017031

>>20016935
>>20016938
Only storm drain can redirect water attacks and only one decent pokemon has it. Handling Kyogre in doubles is exactly like handling it in singles: you need a counter, or it's going to rip your team apart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:04:12 No.20017004 Report

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>>20016666
aurorus

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:05:47 No.20017031 Report

Quoted By: >>20017059

>>20016961
Wide Guard also does a pretty good job in Doubles, right? That, Disable and Torment would probably take its toll on SpecsOgre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:07:39 No.20017059 Report

Quoted By: >>20017165

>>20017031
Remember that Ogre has a partner.

Cavity [3582 - 9637 -2271]

Cavity [3582 - 9637 -2271] Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:10:33 No.20017105 Report

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>>20016666
any rock type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:11:36 No.20017122 Report

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>>20016937
fuck off smogon pleb

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:13:12 No.20017142 Report

Quoted By: >>20017202

>>20016666
Hippowdon works fairly well for me
Also Heatran works as a good counter too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:14:46 No.20017165 Report

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>>20017059
Right, and that partner is supposed to be providing redirect support. Redirecting Disable or Torment on the first turn leaves the foe free to target Kyogre on the second, while Wide Guard can be used consecutively without fail in X and Y.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:16:08 No.20017185 Report

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Porygon2

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:16:51 No.20017202 Report

Quoted By: >>20017220 >>20017367

>>20017142
What can Heatran do to it though? I have been considering using one for this specific purpose but I don't really see what much it can do to Talonflame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:18:04 No.20017220 Report

Quoted By: >>20017265 >>20017277 >>20017367

>>20017202
It can set up Rocks and then Roar the bird away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:20:43 No.20017265 Report

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>>20017220
I see. Thanks anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:21:33 No.20017277 Report

Quoted By: >>20017308 >>20017351 >>20017355 >>20017426

>>20017220
I run HP rock on mine and it does a nice chuck of damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:23:15 No.20017308 Report

Quoted By: >>20017399

>>20017277
You're probably better off using Ancient Power, which has the same 60 BP with that tiny chance of shifting Heatran into maximum overdrive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:23:37 No.20017314 Report

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diancie

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:24:28 No.20017351 Report

Quoted By: >>20017406

>>20017277
>HP Cock
>on a mon that learns Ancient Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:24:38 No.20017355 Report

Quoted By: >>20017379

>>20017277
Stone edge is actually the better option on Heatran- even with a -Attack nature it deals more damage to Tflame and Char-Y than an ancientpower will

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:25:13 No.20017367 Report

Quoted By: >>20025038

>>20017202
>>20017202
>>20017220

It also learns Ancient Power and Stone Edge. Stone Edge works better overall even if max SpA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:25:42 No.20017379 Report

Quoted By: >>20017417

>>20017355
>using stonemiss

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:26:24 No.20017390 Report

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Most rock types

Most other things that resist its dual STABs, namely Heatran, Rotom-W, Rotom-H

Many electric types can check, such as Mega Man and Raikou

Generic bulky physical walls not weak to its STABs can switch in, such as Hippowdon, Mandibuzz and Slowbro

Anything with a good amount of bulk can check, such as Azumarill

It's just so fucking easy. Defensive and offensive teams have so many options to deal with it, how the fuck can you think it's OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:26:26 No.20017391 Report

Quoted By: >>20017402 >>20017424

Am I the only one who despises Talonflame and the people who use it?

It's that ONE Pokemon. I hate it even more than Mega Milf. Mega Milf is childs play compared to Talonflame. I always need to waste a slot with boring ass Rotom-W

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:27:05 No.20017399 Report

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>>20017308
The low PP is the only thing that makes me iffy on using Ancient Power, although I'll see if that really becomes a problem.
Thanks bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:27:13 No.20017402 Report

Quoted By: >>20017419 >>20017488

>>20017391
>needing Rotom to beat bird
come on, you can use nearly any rock type ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:27:37 No.20017406 Report

Quoted By: >>20017413

>>20017351
Anon, there isn't a HP Fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:28:16 No.20017413 Report

Quoted By: >>20017437

>>20017406
Is this supposed to be funny?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:28:26 No.20017417 Report

Quoted By: >>20017537

>>20017379

>Getting beaten all the time because your Rock coverage move just can't KO that Thundurus or Mega Charizard X.

That sucks dude. I don't know what to say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:28:36 No.20017419 Report

Quoted By: >>20017469 >>20017488

>>20017402

I think Rock is my least used Pokemon type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:28:44 No.20017424 Report

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>>20017391
A huge number of things can counter or check Talonflame, not just Rotom-W

Mega Milf is way, way harder to handle, are you joking?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:28:48 No.20017426 Report

Quoted By: >>20025476

>>20017277
>yfw The Talonflame runs Natural Gift while holding a Salac Berry

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:29:09 No.20017437 Report

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>>20017413
Ebin, right? :DDDD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:31:06 No.20017468 Report

Quoted By: >>20017531

>>20016666
>Not being able to counter Talonflame
Are you fucking serious?
Rotom-W
Rotom-H
Quagsire
Unaware Clefable
Heatran
Landorus-T
Empoleon
Gyarados
Mandibuzz

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:31:09 No.20017469 Report

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>>20017419
A lot of unexpected bros are part rock. Fossils, T-Tar, Golem, Barbaracle, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:32:41 No.20017488 Report

Quoted By: >>20017502 >>20017521

>>20017402
There's exactly two Rock-types in OU. One of them doesn't even resist Brave Bird.
>>20017419
That's because it's the second-worst type defensively and doesn't get the same level of Karen kare as Grass and Ice. Which is a pity, because there's a load of based Rock-types that no one bothers using.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:33:15 No.20017493 Report

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>>20016784

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:33:49 No.20017502 Report

Quoted By: >>20017638

>>20017488
>if it's not OU it's not an option
God shut up, I'm not even a karenfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:35:09 No.20017521 Report

Quoted By: >>20017638

>>20017488
You don't need OU mons to beat Talonflame, even barbaracle counters it

252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Barbaracle: 104-123 (36.3 - 43%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after burn damage

Assuming it has WoW
252 Atk burned Barbaracle Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 372-440 (124.8 - 147.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:35:47 No.20017529 Report

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Onii-sama can counter it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:35:49 No.20017531 Report

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>>20017468

>For whatever reason not listing Mega Manectric, who was made to counter Talonflame and Greninja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:36:13 No.20017537 Report

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>>20017417
>implying my friends use smogonfagsmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:44:07 No.20017638 Report

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>>20017502
>>20017521
Sorry, I should've been clearer. The poster I was replying to was insinuating that using Rotom instead of a Rock-type to stop Talonflame was a sign of desperation, when few Rock-type Pokemon are being used for non-Bird related purposes outside of Rain/Sand teams.
Personally, I've had fun tearing shit up with Mega Aerodactyl and Shell Smash Barbaracle, the bird is just an afterthought.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:47:25 No.20017669 Report

Quoted By: >>20017695 >>20017706 >>20018444

So how do you work smogonbird jr? Same way but with a massive power drop?

I just like how it looks over talonflame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:49:09 No.20017695 Report

Quoted By: >>20017813 >>20025155

>>20017669
It just recently got banned from NU
I assume it's similar, except you spam itemless acrobatics

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:50:10 No.20017706 Report

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>>20017669
Acrobatics but you can't benefit from an item if you want to use it fully

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:55:30 No.20017771 Report

Quoted By: >>20017945

>>20016666
Anything rock type
anything with aqua jet
any bulky water type

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 20:59:17 No.20017813 Report

Quoted By: >>20017852 >>20017986

>>20017695
>banned from NU
Is fletchling b& from little cup too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 21:01:23 No.20017852 Report

Quoted By: >>20017878

>>20017813
ebin

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 21:02:54 No.20017865 Report

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Magcargo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 21:03:55 No.20017878 Report

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>>20017852
Chill out, it's just a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 21:07:11 No.20017945 Report

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>>20017771
>anything with aqua jet

What difference does that make?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 21:08:07 No.20017964 Report

Quoted By: >>20018217 >>20018619

Every single Rock-type that resists Flying except Archeops
Almost anything bulky really

It's not like priority Brave Bird matters on Talonflame either, it's already faster than almost everything and only has 81 attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 21:09:22 No.20017986 Report

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>>20017813
not yet but it might be suspected at some point

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 21:29:07 No.20018217 Report

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>>20017964
>it's not like priority brave bird matters
Opinion discarded.
Talonflame is the sole reason frailer scarf users have fallen out of favor

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 21:47:55 No.20018444 Report

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>>20017669
>I just like how it looks over talonflame.
Me too.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 22:00:02 No.20018619 Report

Quoted By: >>20018787

>>20017964
Yeah, that's wrong. Sure, bulk helps but that's not a counter. Plus BB has effected the meta drastically more than even the new type did.
>Still Dragon wrecking
>Absolutely no grass types and frail fighting types (looking at you Heracross, Meinshao)

I mean, Hera was awesome last gen, Meinshao very good and hell Priority Bird is one of the few Blaziken counters. Also counters Scolipede.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 22:09:31 No.20018748 Report

Quoted By: >>20018783

Yo, Im getting into perfect pokes and battling, and wanna get in on the fire bird rape train.

What nature, Evs, moves, and held items do I need to make the most out of it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 22:11:57 No.20018783 Report

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>>20016937
>>20018748

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 22:12:08 No.20018787 Report

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>>20018619
>no Grass-types
I hope you meant no FRAIL Grass-types. Even then, Breloom was still OU last I checked. Ferrothorn and Venusaur are also OU, unless I'm mistaken. I think the only Grass-type that's dropped is Celebi, and that can't really be pinned on Talonflame alone.
Both Heracross and Meinshao were UU at the end of last gen.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 22:18:02 No.20018891 Report

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>team full of shitmons because im not pleb
>mfw talonflame kills itself by hitting my rocky helmet archeops

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2014 22:38:06 No.20019185 Report

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>garchomp used stone edge

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 00:24:05 No.20020857 Report

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>>20016666
>Countered by T-tar
It can't get u-turn anymore?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 02:57:40 No.20023801 Report

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Avalugg.
>These niggers think I'm joking
>Don't know about 180 base defense and weakness policy
>Recover
>Curse
>Dead bird

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 03:02:53 No.20023897 Report

Quoted By: >>20025087 >>20025089

>Mfw running physical Greninja
>They know Greninja is frail as fuck and can't take a brave bird
>Surprise shuriken in their ass MUH PRIORITY

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:26:07 No.20025038 Report

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>>20017367
fucking this! it can take any hit talonflame uses on it and retaliate using ancient power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:30:48 No.20025087 Report

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>>20023897
Pretty sure it cant OHKO right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:30:49 No.20025089 Report

Quoted By: >>20025173

>>20023897
>yfw talonflame outspeeds you by 4 points.
>yfw one-shotted by bravebird before you shuriken.

Foamp

Foamp Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:32:38 No.20025125 Report

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The vagina clam. i legitimately forgot the name

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:33:06 No.20025128 Report

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So what's the GOAT set for Braviary?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:34:41 No.20025155 Report

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>>20017695
It wasn't b&, it just rose to RU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:35:54 No.20025173 Report

Quoted By: >>20025184

>>20025089
Only retards run max speed Talonflame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:37:08 No.20025184 Report

Quoted By: >>20025229

>>20025173
Retarded like a fox!
How else are you going to beat out those Physical Greninja?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:39:45 No.20025229 Report

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>>20025184
Physical greninha isn't that good.
I try running one with sub power up punch water shuriken and rock tomb but you can only really set up against blissey and ferroshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:40:12 No.20025238 Report

Quoted By: >>20025284 >>20025329

can we talk about how fucking stupid the name is for a sec
you would think after 18 years of puns and portmanteaus the english translators would name it something with variable cleverness with relative ease
nope, compound word of "talon" and "flame," bam good enough for them
who the fuck was in charge of this

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:41:05 No.20025249 Report

Quoted By: >>20025306 >>20025334 >>20025361

> Masuda noticed Talonflame being overused yet claims there's been counters for it

T-they will nerf a bit Gale Wings like they said would with Parental Bond, right g-guys?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:42:58 No.20025284 Report

Quoted By: >>20025342

>>20025238
What would u have named it? Firehawk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:45:16 No.20025306 Report

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>>20025249
Gen 7 maybe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:46:20 No.20025329 Report

Quoted By: >>20025366

>>20025238
Seel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:46:34 No.20025334 Report

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>>20025249
There are tons of counters for talonshit.
It can't take neutral hits from special attackers unless it invests on hp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:46:55 No.20025342 Report

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>>20025284
I don't know, something along the lines of using "fletch" like the other two

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:47:31 No.20025356 Report

Quoted By:

Hippowdon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:47:45 No.20025361 Report

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>>20025249
Talonflame is far, far from OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:47:58 No.20025366 Report

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>>20025329
point taken

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:49:57 No.20025397 Report

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The undertaker can tombstone it or conversely anymon that can rock tomb the speed out of it destroys its sash too forcing at least a switch or suicide or ragequit even or maybe even fucking death

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2014 04:56:11 No.20025476 Report

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>>20017426
My friend does this.
I'm still caught off guard by it.

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