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>>20123610
>>20123624
shit taste m8s

we finally get a 3D world in Pokemon and can't even see it at all. I don't like that. graphically it looked bad but the whole game did before release

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:21:00 No.20123652 Report

Quoted By: >>20123691 >>20123697 >>20123728

>>20123635
To be fair, the colors in the pre-release screenshot look a lot less washed out than in the final product.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:23:00 No.20123669 Report

Quoted By: >>20123884

Azure Bay

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:23:25 No.20123675 Report

Quoted By: >>20124054

>>20123651
It would look like complete garbage when in small spaces, like caves or buildings.

RPGs just don't work with that kind of perspective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:24:33 No.20123691 Report

Quoted By: >>20123728

>>20123652
I hope by less you mean more.
Otherwise you're blind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:24:44 No.20123697 Report

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>>20123652
The pre-release gave me eye cancer. Yes, Pokemon is for kids but it's not Mario. Not that I hate Mario.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:25:43 No.20123711 Report

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Drawdistance problems I imagine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:27:03 No.20123728 Report

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>>20123652
>>20123691
it's night time in the right pic, I think the colors stayed the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:27:44 No.20123740 Report

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>>20123583
Adjust a bit and make the world twice as big and it works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:29:38 No.20123771 Report

Quoted By: >>20123794

>>20123728
Except that it's daytime in the right image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:30:39 No.20123778 Report

Quoted By: >>20123793 >>20123794

>>20123728
I know night doesn't really look like night in XY, but to think the right image is nighttime is stretching it a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:32:03 No.20123793 Report

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>>20123778
What does night look like in XY.
I didn't play it yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:32:03 No.20123794 Report

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>>20123771
>>20123778
I capped it from a video since I couldn't find an image, it's night time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:32:26 No.20123796 Report

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>>20123583
Both of those still look more colorful than what we got.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:33:07 No.20123802 Report

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It probably dropped the FPS so they ditched it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:33:28 No.20123811 Report

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>>20123583
Yea, perspective is better. But colors and general graphics were better in the final.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:33:37 No.20123813 Report

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>>20123793
It's hardly even noticable if you don't look at the sky.

Everything's just a bit darker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:34:38 No.20123841 Report

Quoted By: >>20124084 >>20130794

I like that the behind-the-back look lets you see into the horizon, and it makes the world seem "bigger", or at least like an actual continuous world. But as the water route in XY showed the behind-the-back angle is very awkward to control because it's really annoying to gauge distances.

I want them to add a second stick on their next handheld so we can have a camera control.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:36:39 No.20123869 Report

Quoted By: >>20123955

>>20123794
We've all seen the videos, it's daytime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:37:48 No.20123884 Report

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>>20123669
ughhh
I hate the angle

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:42:59 No.20123955 Report

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>>20123869
>the videos
I went to a random youtube playthrough video

but here is one where it's day time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:44:30 No.20123979 Report

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Why does GF wants to always keep the angle of the camera like that?
i mean the cheat codes to lower the camera in HGSS make everything look better

GF needs to step up, but they won't because we(I included) will keep buying whatever they throw at us

Like rectangular Hoenn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:44:56 No.20123983 Report

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The area should've started off in the pre-release perspective and slowly turned to the release perspective as you approach the grass. The majority of routes should have some camera movement and give us something cool to look at. For a game that pushed its graphical overhaul so hard, the truly memorable sights sure are few and far between.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:50:11 No.20124054 Report

Quoted By: >>20124122

>>20123675
Not the same guy, but it only doesn't work with RPGs that are still stuck in the 2D "single space wide" design for dungeons. Dungeons that are actually reasonably sized look just fine with a behind-the-back angle. You don't even need to get to MMO area size, look at say the recent Phantasy Star games which pretty much all use that angle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:52:41 No.20124084 Report

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>>20123841
CPP support would be neat if they just let you do that with it, like "We know nobody has a CPP but for those who do you can use it and mess with the camera."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:54:40 No.20124107 Report

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too much lag, or maybe they wanted to save the perspective shit til OR/AS so they'd "surprise" us

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 18:55:40 No.20124122 Report

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>>20124054
>Phantasy star
>tfw this is a DS game

Just imagine what BW could've been

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 19:04:35 No.20124218 Report

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>>20124122
Why was BW a DS game anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 19:13:46 No.20124349 Report

Quoted By: >>20124515 >>20130898

>>20124122
Oh man, I love that DeSmuME mod.
Makes pretty much every game look so fucking good.

>>20124218
I'm guessing because they wouldn't have been able to create all models in the given time.
I mean, look at the XY models. Most of them still look like complete shit but they could have been a lot worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 19:24:32 No.20124515 Report

Quoted By: >>20124571 >>20124641

>>20124349
>Most of them still look like complete shit
They don't, and save the flames, they look way better than any 3D Pokémon game's models.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 19:29:04 No.20124571 Report

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>>20124515
That is barely an accomplishment when the last official Pokémon CGI models were from a game that came out over a decade ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 19:34:11 No.20124641 Report

Quoted By: >>20124669

>>20124515
From an "objective" standpoint (polycount etc) there's really no arguing, they are better.
I think there's a couple they got kinda lazy with though, like Marshtomp. I also miss the smile on Sableye, small things like that. I mean given how 3D models work is it really that hard to give them some more interesting stances?

>>20124571
The fuck are you talking about? Battle Revolution came out in 2007, then they had the 3D Pokedex but that was probably an early version of the XY models.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 19:36:25 No.20124669 Report

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>>20124641
Well, I actually forgot BR existed there.

Also yeah, they mostly just reused the Pokedex models with slight adjustments here and there for XY.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 19:36:34 No.20124672 Report

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>>20124122

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 19:37:58 No.20124686 Report

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>>20124122
Does that filter still make things run really slow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 19:40:09 No.20124715 Report

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>>20124686
On a toaster, yeah.

The mod is really resource heavy. Not even a NASA PC couldn't handle the best option at a constant framerate currently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 19:41:11 No.20124736 Report

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>>20124715
Could handle, I meant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2014 20:03:29 No.20125035 Report

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>>20124672
Jesus that looks good as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:25:21 No.20130703 Report

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>>20124672
amazing

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:31:01 No.20130764 Report

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:33:14 No.20130785 Report

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:33:37 No.20130790 Report

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>>20124218
Not enough people owned a 3DS yet back in 2010, and they would make much more money by selling it on the DS, which a lot more people owned at that time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:34:11 No.20130794 Report

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>>20123841
>I want them to add a second stick on their next handheld so we can have a camera control.
Please no. I get motion sickness from that shit. Totally forgot about it but I've been playing through the Metal Gear Solid Legacy Collection and when I jumped from MGS2 to MGS3 I had to start getting breaks because I was getting nauseous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:35:08 No.20130799 Report

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>they will never go back to sprites

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:35:18 No.20130802 Report

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:40:09 No.20130859 Report

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:41:32 No.20130879 Report

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When you pass the sign on that route the perspective changes you dumb shit. In the pre release pic you're behind the sign and in the release pic you're ahead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:43:28 No.20130891 Report

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>>20124715
So can I know the name of the mod ? Currently playing through BW2, would be cool to have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:43:55 No.20130898 Report

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>>20124349
>Oh man, I love that DeSmuME mod.
>Makes pretty much every game look so fucking good.
What mod is it?

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:46:29 No.20130934 Report

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>>20130879

Nice bait.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:47:12 No.20130950 Report

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>>20130879
It's all the same whether behind or past the sign, bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:49:20 No.20130982 Report

Quoted By: >>20131172

>>20130891
Desume x432
I have a bunch of different versions that I compiled, source code and binary's are easy to find.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:49:45 No.20130992 Report

Quoted By: >>20131172

http://shikaver01.webcrow.jp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:50:43 No.20131005 Report

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All the buildings and trees look small and low. I'm worried RS wont make for a nice reinterpretation for this reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 02:51:12 No.20131012 Report

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>>20123583
To help disguise how Kalos is a whole lot of empty nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 03:04:26 No.20131172 Report

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>>20130982
>>20130992

Thanks!

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 07:32:10 No.20134550 Report

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>>20123583
this really annoyed me. I thought I was going to get a whole 3D sandbox world (its not like the 3DS couldn't do it), and then we got, well, that. Its not fair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 08:28:21 No.20134877 Report

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>>20130799
fine with that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 09:43:41 No.20135192 Report

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>>20130859
>the sprite is native-res
Neat. I didn't realize the zoom was exactly 3x on the bridge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 09:46:24 No.20135202 Report

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>>20123583
Because it "looks good" the first time, but functionally it's terrible because you either never see that area ever again or you actually need to see where you're going and a view like that makes it hard to see what layer you are on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 10:59:19 No.20135461 Report

Quoted By: >>20135909

>>20130764
>>20130776
>>20130785
>>20130802
>>20130859
Holy shit, how do you make it look this good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 12:14:49 No.20135909 Report

Quoted By: >>20135923

>>20135461
With 3D games/games with vector graphics, the resolution for most elements is pretty much just limited by the console and the screen, so a lot of emulators can do this.

Really want to see Metroid Prime Hunters in HD. Even if it'll look shit because of low-res textures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 12:17:50 No.20135923 Report

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>>20135909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae1dcvPXryM

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