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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:19:05 No.20137049 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>20137230 >>20137248

How viable would this guy be with an ass vest? Base 100 SpD is pretty good to start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:20:31 No.20137057 Report

Quoted By: >>20137065 >>20137069

not worth giving up dragon dance
there are better pokemon to put a vest on

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:21:21 No.20137065 Report

Quoted By: >>20137075

>>20137057
That's a good point but maybe for a defensive intimidating set?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:21:55 No.20137069 Report

Quoted By: >>20137072 >>20137081 >>20137083 >>20137214 >>20140545 >>20140589 >>20142069

>>20137057
This is correct.

Assault Vest Thread?

Who are some good Assault Vest users?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:22:35 No.20137072 Report

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>>20137069
inb4goodra

Conkeldurr is a gr8 AV user

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:22:54 No.20137075 Report

Quoted By: >>20137083 >>20142094

>>20137065
any defensive set would really need to make use of Taunt, T-Wave, Rest, Roar. Really a number of support moves it values more than a Sp.Def boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:23:31 No.20137081 Report

Quoted By: >>20137256

>>20137069
Assault Vest Azumarill is getting a lot of love lately. I should try it, sounds cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:23:50 No.20137083 Report

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>>20137069
I've been doing fairly well with an assault vest metagross
>>20137075
And yeah this guy is right. Give it lefties instead

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:26:37 No.20137103 Report

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This guy does really well in lower tiers with the AV

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:28:24 No.20137119 Report

Quoted By: >>20137171

"assault vest on everything" syndrome needs to stop, it's an average item that's good on a few select pokemon

electivirefags all over again

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:29:56 No.20137139 Report

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Hello there

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:30:53 No.20137146 Report

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Rhyperior is an excellent AV user but it's a lot more effective in 3v3. Put it in the sand and it's one of the bulkiest pokemon available, and with it's movepool it really wants to use 4 moves for coverage given its access to the elemental punches, crunch, edgequake etc. etc. It will allow you to survive things like Focus Blast from Thundurus/Mega Zard Y or Earth Power from Landorus and OHKO back. 6v6 is a pretty different story though, it's a lot easier to cover

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:31:05 No.20137149 Report

Quoted By: >>20137154 >>20137179 >>20137181 >>20137193 >>20137333 >>20142191

How would Assault Vest Blastoise do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:31:55 No.20137154 Report

Quoted By: >>20137161

>>20137149
Probably not as good as Blastoisite :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:32:32 No.20137161 Report

Quoted By: >>20142116

>>20137154
>wasting your mega spot on Blastoise
No thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:33:32 No.20137171 Report

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>>20137119
Ther why don't we just make this a competitive strategy thread? Any ideas anon?
I have one for an eviolite Electabuzz
HP 104 SpA 100 SpD 152 Spe 152
T-bolt
Toxic
Protect
Hp Ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:34:43 No.20137179 Report

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>>20137149
As a rapid spinner it'd be OK, but it's not strong enough for me to compete with only damaging moves. Someone could easily come in and set up

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:34:52 No.20137181 Report

Quoted By: >>20140085

>>20137149
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:36:23 No.20137193 Report

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>>20137149
I don't think it be too bad, considering Blastoise rarely runs support moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:38:05 No.20137214 Report

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>>20137069
Assault Vest Emboar is okay.

Or well no, it's shit but I've been using it as a gimmicky Greninja killer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:39:04 No.20137221 Report

Quoted By: >>20140503 >>20142333 >>20142387 >>20145643

rhyperior with max s def investment, solid rock, and an ass vest can tank special hit really well.

I can revenge kill a talonflame and eat a scald from a greninja only to kill with a earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:40:31 No.20137230 Report

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>>20137049
No Fang Absorb

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:43:04 No.20137248 Report

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>>20137049
I tried AV set with Gyara a while back. It wasnt all bad but didnt have any real niche other than extended coverage since 4 attacking moves and all. You have to go adamant for max attack.

And anything that has acess to attack based recovery is a solid AV user. Tangrowth with regenerator and giga drain is totally worthy.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:43:45 No.20137256 Report

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>>20137081
I like the way you think. I'd put AV on it over band or sitrus berry any day, since nobody sees it coming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:46:04 No.20137280 Report

Quoted By: >>20137300

Assault vest tyranitar is godlike

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:48:26 No.20137300 Report

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>>20137280
If you baton pass to Tyranitar assault vest, the nigga is unstoppable

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 15:51:20 No.20137333 Report

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>>20137149
it could be good considering that you could throw them off with a different mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 20:01:57 No.20140031 Report

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Vest Zygarde is surprisingly okay. Having priority gives it a niche over something like Garchomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 20:03:24 No.20140047 Report

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AV excadrill?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 20:06:06 No.20140085 Report

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>>20137181
Blastoise can use mirror coat, which counts as an attack. Stoise would wreck electric types with an assvest. I tried doing the same thing on Tentacruel, and it worked pretty well. Tent's gotta watch out for earthquakes, though, which diminish its defensive potential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 20:37:36 No.20140503 Report

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>>20137221

>in sand only

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 20:39:31 No.20140545 Report

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>>20137069
>Trevenant
>Rhyperior
>Gogoat
>Armaldo
>Lanturn

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 20:42:58 No.20140589 Report

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>>20137069

I use Lapras and Machamp

I've beat Conkelderps thanks to my cheap confusion spam.

And Lapras becomes pretty damn bulky. It took a LO greninja 3 hits to take it down with a 120 power Grass Knot.

It could also survive Charizard's Y overheat with more than 50% HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 20:47:37 No.20140652 Report

Quoted By: >>20140929

Ass Vest Protean Kecleon is glorious. Been running a Bank trickery set of Rock Slide, Shadow Sneak, Drain Punch, and Knock Off with good results

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 21:08:28 No.20140929 Report

Quoted By: >>20145924

>>20140652
that sounds delicious. Does he force enough switches to justify knock off over sucker punch?

Been wanting to use a kecleon for a while

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 21:58:31 No.20141600 Report

Quoted By: >>20145643

I like running AV Blissey. 252 HP 252+ SpD 4 Spe (to outrun other Blissey)

Seismic Toss hits pretty hard.
Can also try Charge Beam to get really strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 22:20:24 No.20141908 Report

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Armaldo is pretty neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 22:32:01 No.20142069 Report

Quoted By: >>20142099 >>20142129

>>20137069
Scrafty is amazing. He can tank anything but Fairy type attacks and can even stomach fighting or flying type physical attackers after an Intimidate if it isn't a move like Brave Bird/Acrobatics or Hi-Jump Kick.

He can run Drain Punch, Crunch, Zen Headbutt and Rock Slide/Ice Punch, giving him perfect coverage and a super effective move against 2/3 of all Pokemon. As well as that all those moves have handy side effects.

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IGN: Braids FC : 3582-9566-3542 Tue 22 Jul 2014 22:34:12 No.20142094 Report

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>>20137075
>this
I prefer Waccan Berry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 22:34:39 No.20142099 Report

Quoted By: >>20142147

>>20142069
I can attest to this, had a defensive AV scrafty bulk a Dazzling Gleam and fuck me over once.

Foamp

Foamp Tue 22 Jul 2014 22:36:12 No.20142116 Report

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>>20137161
>wasting a slot on a mega at all
You'reeeee Greeat!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 22:37:31 No.20142129 Report

Quoted By: >>20142166

>>20142069
my nigga, i use my VGC scrafty in singles with AV and it's a great special wall. i run drain punch, rock slide, payback and fake out with intimidate because of VGC but it sure has some great moves. knock off would be awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 22:39:12 No.20142147 Report

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>>20142099
Also, look at this shit:
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 244 HP / 12 Def Scrafty: 276-326 (83.1 - 98.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Scrafty Rock Slide vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 372-440 (124.8 - 147.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 22:40:55 No.20142166 Report

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>>20142129
It sucks that it's a transfer only move now. It would be far superior to Crunch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 22:42:54 No.20142191 Report

Quoted By: >>20142224

>>20137149
Rapid spin, Surf, Ice beam, Dragon-tail.
Seems like it would be pretty bulky, and would be able to provide support by switching out the opponent with Dragon tail, as well as removing entry hazards. Surf and Ice beam for coverage.
Sounds alright to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 22:46:39 No.20142224 Report

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>>20142191
I use tentacruel for that, i have a defensive one with
>Rapid Spin
>Scald
>Knock Off
>Infestation

and an offensive one with
>Scald
>Sludge Bomb
>Hex
>Ice Beam

Bretty fun, not the best user but I always liked it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 22:56:31 No.20142333 Report

Quoted By: >>20142355

>>20137221
>I can [..] eat a scald from a greninja

My bullshit radar is beeping.

252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Scald vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Rhyperior: 395-473 (91 - 108.9%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

Besides, who runs Scald on Greninja?

252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Surf vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Rhyperior: 452-536 (104.1 - 123.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Nice bulk you have there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 22:58:37 No.20142355 Report

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>>20142333
Whoops, forgot Solid Rock, my bad.

252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Surf vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Solid Rock Rhyperior: 339-402 (78.1 - 92.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

That's pretty nice. However:

4 Atk Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 201-237 (70.2 - 82.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Still a ded Rhyperior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 23:00:28 No.20142387 Report

Quoted By: >>20142399

>>20137221
>specially defensive rock type
u fukn wot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 23:01:31 No.20142399 Report

Quoted By: >>20142420

>>20142387
>carbink

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 23:03:10 No.20142420 Report

Quoted By: >>20142498

>>20142399
I meant atypical rock types (tons of defense, slow as dicks, shit special defense).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jul 2014 23:07:51 No.20142498 Report

Quoted By: >>20146529

>>20142420
I tell you what, Cradily is an awesome AV user

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 03:35:48 No.20145643 Report

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>>20141600
this is the worst thing on here

only >>20137221 is worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 03:58:28 No.20145924 Report

Quoted By: >>20146192

>>20140929
I use the AV set as a lead and just open with Knock Off. It's bulky enough to rarely be OHKOd outside of crits but I've lost to too many Megamoms on battle spot to not consider the dark priority instead. Impish 216HP 72A 220D are the EVs. The hp and def survive up to 3 Brave Birds and the 72 are to hit a bit harder

This and a couple other sets for Top Kec were made by a guy who got shut down on smogon for no other reason than it's a shitmon. The mod didn't even address that Drain Punch/Knock Off with Protean is illegal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 04:22:57 No.20146192 Report

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>>20145924
Dude... what if we get Knock Off Drain Punch combo back in ORAS? I need this in my life right the fuck now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 04:43:21 No.20146529 Report

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>>20142498
>Cradily without status moves
Were you taking the piss?

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