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Now Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:05:02 No.20143776 View View Reply Original Report

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Charizard, a first-generation Pokemon from the nineties, is a Western-style dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:05:34 No.20143778 Report

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>>20143776
k.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:06:46 No.20143785 Report

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>>20143776
It's also orange.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:06:51 No.20143786 Report

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>>20143776
Yes it is. Why did that warrant a thread?

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Now Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:07:10 No.20143788 Report

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>>20143778
It took me about two decades to realise this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:07:27 No.20143790 Report

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epic thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:08:17 No.20143802 Report

Quoted By: >>20143830

>>20143776
>charizard
>dragon

no, nice try charizard faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:08:56 No.20143812 Report

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>>20143788
k.

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Now Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:09:09 No.20143815 Report

Quoted By: >>20144583

>>20143786
Japan was making these in the nineties. I swear there's something I'm missing here.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:10:36 No.20143830 Report

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>>20143802
Did you say something, Bulbasaurfag?

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Now Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:14:56 No.20143863 Report

Quoted By: >>20143934

Look, I know that Pokemon designs have always been inspired by a hell of a lot of random-arse things, but where did a Western dragon come from before an Eastern one?

Though I suppose there's Dragonair. And we can't be sure what order they were designed in (or, well, I can't be sure). But then there's Dragonite!

It is 2am and these are the things I think about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:22:34 No.20143934 Report

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>>20143863
If your argument is for the lack of eastern dragon, I would say because eastern dragon's are quite common in asian culture. By designing western dragons, they create something more exotic to the country the games were designed in. Just a theory though.

But why is there STILL no eastern dragon? I honestly don't know, I feel by 6 generations they would have come up with one. There is Raquaza, but it doesn't necessarily have tradtional eastern dragon features other than the long body. Maybe next gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:24:26 No.20143952 Report

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>>20143830
Nice 2013 design.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:30:20 No.20144030 Report

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>>20143934
What is Rayquaza

SAGE 4613-8595-4177::Gyarados/Frogadier/Krabby:: !7BVhcs6e0k

SAGE 4613-8595-4177::Gyarados/Frogadier/Krabby:: !7BVhcs6e0k Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:31:05 No.20144042 Report

Quoted By: >>20144075

>>20143934
>>20144030

And what about Gyarados?

The fuck is this nigger smoking?

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Now Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:31:07 No.20144043 Report

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>>20143934
My thought process was summed up in the original post - everything since was flavour and rationalisation.

Gyarados, maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:33:51 No.20144075 Report

Quoted By: >>20144109 >>20149757

>>20144042
>>20144043
oh I forgot, I guess gyarados could count in regards to design, especially considering the whole legend it's based off of. But we don't have an eastern looking dragon with dragon typing

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Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:36:38 No.20144109 Report

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>>20144075
Rayquaza.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:39:50 No.20144147 Report

Quoted By: >>20144159

>>20144109
I already mentioned raquaza doesn't have very many traditional eastern/chinese dragon features other than the long body. It's more of a sky serpent . Although I suppose that's all matter of opinion

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Now Wed 23 Jul 2014 01:40:44 No.20144159 Report

Quoted By: >>20144507

>>20144147
>Sky serpent
>Quetzalcoatl

MAH GAWD.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:06:30 No.20144507 Report

Quoted By: >>20144890

>>20144159
>yfw it gets a pure Flying primal form with feathers in ORAS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:09:27 No.20144542 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:11:35 No.20144583 Report

Quoted By: >>20154089

>>20143815
Japan thinks Western dragons are cool.

Western dragons rock with the whole "Fire breathing leathery wing horned monster thing" while Japan has a "Serpentine dragon deity that summons rain" thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:15:55 No.20144637 Report

Quoted By: >>20144684 >>20144689

>>20144030
He's a Quetzalcoatl of Mesoamerican mythology mixed with the legendary Ziz of Jewish folklore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:19:59 No.20144684 Report

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>>20144637
>Ziz of Jewish folklore
I wish it looked more like it tbh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:20:16 No.20144689 Report

Quoted By: >>20144775 >>20145099

>>20144637
I was gonna comment on it realition to Ziz, since Kyogre(Leviatan) and Groudon(Behemoth). I don't see the Quetzalcoatl since, you know, Q is a giant feathered snake. No hands.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:29:30 No.20144775 Report

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>>20144689
The Maya were shit artist.

Here's Quetzalcoatl, he's green and has a bunch of weird green protrusions that are feathers apparently.

That's not too dissimilar to Raycraycray, especially when he's a hodgepodge of different mythological creatures.

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Now Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:39:37 No.20144865 Report

Quoted By: >>20144906 >>20145051

Do you guys think I'm cool? Many people get annoyed by me, please respond :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:42:03 No.20144890 Report

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>>20144507
I wish Rayquaza had actual teeth in the back instead of pointy gums

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:43:03 No.20144900 Report

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>>20144542
wut

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:43:25 No.20144906 Report

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>>20144865

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:43:54 No.20144919 Report

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>>20144900
It is a Bride Rayquaza.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:44:35 No.20144926 Report

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let us not forget that its also orange and has wings

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:46:35 No.20144964 Report

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>>20144900
Rayquaza wants a loving husband.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:50:49 No.20145050 Report

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>>20143830
Shit-tier Charizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:50:54 No.20145051 Report

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>>20144865
Ask that question in >>>/b/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:53:52 No.20145099 Report

Quoted By: >>20145144

>>20144689
They switched up Groudon and Kyogre as well. Typically, the Behemoth was depicted as a mammal, and the Leviathan as reptilian, which GF inverted for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:57:41 No.20145144 Report

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>>20145099
The Ziz was suppose to be a bird but Ray Cray is a Dragon.

I want a Pokemon based on Tiamat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:59:11 No.20145164 Report

Quoted By: >>20145195 >>20145306

>>20145050
>Liking Charizard at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 02:59:19 No.20145168 Report

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>>20145050
Mega charizard Y looks beautiful shiny. Easily the best out of it's line of evolution.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 03:00:43 No.20145195 Report

Quoted By: >>20145235

>>20145164
>Not liking Charizard

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Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 03:01:45 No.20145208 Report

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>>20143830
>>20143776

>charizard designed by atsuko nishida (pikachu, eevees, dratini/dragonair)
>charizard x designed by tomohiro kitakaze (scolipede, accelgor)
>charizard y probably nishida

funny how sugimori didn't make any of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 03:03:06 No.20145235 Report

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>>20145195
>Liking the people that likes Charizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 03:08:05 No.20145306 Report

Quoted By: >>20145371

>>20145164
>Too many people like it so nobody's allowed to like it anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 03:13:47 No.20145371 Report

Quoted By: >>20145457

>>20145306
Nah, i just enjoy fishing in the river of Charizard fanboys

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 03:20:10 No.20145457 Report

Quoted By: >>20145554

>>20145371
Fair enough. I've got nothing against Charizard except for the fact that he got 2 megas. I was ok with Mewtwo because he's genetically engineered to be the most powerful Pokemon and he's the original uber legendary. But fuck Charizard for getting 2 when Venusaur and Blastoise only got 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 03:27:04 No.20145554 Report

Quoted By: >>20146024

>>20145457

he also had two viable playstyles to capitalize on. what the fuck kind of second evos would you even give the other two that their current megas don't accomplish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 04:07:05 No.20146024 Report

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>>20145554
Well Venusaur's alternate style is obvious. Bulky mixed sweeper like he was back in gen 5. Would be a good contrast to the current mega's wall/stall style.

As for Blastoise, I'd like to see a fast physical attacker. He's definitely got the move pool for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 10:20:09 No.20149757 Report

Quoted By: >>20149795

>>20144075
>Giratina

it's based on a Japanese Centipede Dragon

And in Gen 1, there's Dragonair - serpentine dragon that controls weather that holds an orb.

It takes a lot of liberties from a Chinese dragon's design but it's undeniable that there's a connection there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 10:23:34 No.20149795 Report

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>>20149757
there's also Kindra - since you know, in asian myths, baby dragons are seahorses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 10:37:44 No.20149885 Report

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>>20143776
It's a lizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 16:03:20 No.20151808 Report

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>>20145050
Pic related I assume.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 16:09:41 No.20151855 Report

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>>20143776
No, it's a red frog, dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 16:12:25 No.20151883 Report

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>>20143776
It's a flying salamander, not a dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 16:15:09 No.20151908 Report

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>>20143776
Isn't it a bat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 17:47:09 No.20152874 Report

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The charizard evo line has the theme of a salamander becoming a dragon.
Learn your chinesr culture fag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 18:25:23 No.20153306 Report

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>>20143776
You do realize that it's fire type, you fucking retard? Fire is very good offensively and while it's not the best defensively, it got buffed this gen to counter, oh, I don't know, FAIRIES?

Seriously you are fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 19:24:54 No.20154029 Report

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>>20143934
Dratini, Dragonair, Gyarados, and Rayquaza

Zygarde, Steelix, and Giratina-O to an extent

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 19:29:24 No.20154089 Report

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>>20144583
Besdies,Gyrados is an Asian styled dragon, and also in the first gen, so what's the problem?

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Anonymous Wed 23 Jul 2014 19:33:52 No.20154135 Report

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>>20143776

Suicune, a second-generation Pokemon from the late nineties, is a mythological cheetah.

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