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Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 03:59:08 No.20217248 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>20217268 >>20217271 >>20217300 >>20217305 >>20217308 >>20217374 >>20217807 >>20221723 >>20221890 >>20222132

Even with a Mega, Camerupt will need one hell of an ability to be even decent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:00:57 No.20217268 Report

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>>20217248
I have an idea! How about Water Veil?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:01:30 No.20217271 Report

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>>20217248
Storm Drain

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:04:14 No.20217300 Report

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>>20217248
Mid-gen Evo plz. Then also a Mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:04:51 No.20217305 Report

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>>20217248
dry skin :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:05:23 No.20217307 Report

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Anti-Drizzle: creates intense sunlight even if a Pokemon with Drizzle enters the battlefield

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:05:23 No.20217308 Report

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>>20217248
New ability: Channel Groudon
Groudon erupts from the volcano on Camerupts back. Camerupt is now Groudon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:06:07 No.20217312 Report

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Swift Swim

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Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:06:34 No.20217317 Report

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>tfw heatran will still completely outclass mega camerupt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:12:46 No.20217374 Report

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>>20217248
give it actual defences, aka not greninja tier.

Right now it's greninja with no speed and no protean. Like, almost literally that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:13:07 No.20217377 Report

Quoted By: >>20217936

How about Simple? It gets Stockpile, Curse, and IIRC Amnesia. Plus, it's one of Numel's abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:15:31 No.20217399 Report

Quoted By: >>20217432

RU and NU could use more diversity in megas, I mean when you've got Camerupt as a base form there isn't much higher you can go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:19:44 No.20217432 Report

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>>20217399
NU could use /a mega at all/

All of them are RU at least. Not even obama or spooky doll.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:21:40 No.20217444 Report

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well it gets solid rock, maybe some high defense boosts

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:22:02 No.20217447 Report

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Camerupt is only a mixed attacker because Fire was special and Ground was physical in Gen III. A mega could feasibly lower its attack and add it into defenses and special attack.
Lower speed would be nice too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:25:18 No.20217482 Report

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>>20217447
this, there is no need for physical camerupt unless it gets flare blitz so maybe they can drop his attack and speed and pour all of them into defenses plsu solid rock, and maybe a little in special attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:27:23 No.20217503 Report

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Good. I love the idea of low tier megas. Currently there are only two megas that are lower than UU, Abomasnow and Banette. Abomasnow because it can only function on trick room teams since it's slow as fuck and is weak to everything, and Banette because of speed tier mechanics and lack of recovery making it a strictly worse Sableye. Fire/Ground isn't actually that bad of a type, but Hoenn's terrible habit of putting split offenses on literally everything makes the 100 BST M-Camerupt would get hard to place. With Rock Polish it could easily end up being used like M-Ampharos but RU instead of UU.

M-Ampy is actually better as a defensive pivot though, something Camerupt might not be able to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:29:51 No.20217525 Report

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>>20217432
Obama and Banette are RU.

Blastoise, Aerodactyl, Houndoom, Aggron, Ampharos, and Absol are UU.

Everything else is OU or higher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:36:27 No.20217589 Report

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>>20217525
What was the point of this post exactly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:39:24 No.20217604 Report

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>>20217589
He said all of them were RU at least. Saying they're all RU at least implies that they bottom out in RU, like there were more than just two in RU. I wanted to point out that most of the megas that are usually considered bad are actually UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 04:40:53 No.20217616 Report

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Primal Groudon is Ground/Fire, how would it fare in ubers? Kyogre will wreck it even more, but Fire gives it some resistance to Xerneas' STAB at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 05:03:16 No.20217780 Report

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>>20217482
I'm thinking something like 70/85/110/155/110/30

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 05:05:50 No.20217807 Report

Quoted By: >>20217935 >>20217967

>>20217248

Godamn, Archie's new design is utter shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 05:15:54 No.20217935 Report

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>>20217807
tfw that's Maxie, not Archie

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 05:15:58 No.20217936 Report

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>>20217377
Should have already gotten it from Numel.
Too late.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 05:16:20 No.20217944 Report

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>>20217780
So about the same as Scrafty minus 28 speed and plus 110 special attack? Not bad stat-wise, but you would need to get rid of that crippling quad-weakness and give it some better moves to make up for being unable to hold an item. Maybe if you gave it calm mind it could be like a fire-type crocune with lava plume.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 05:18:07 No.20217963 Report

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Preserves one of its current abilities, receives another one that isn't exactly competitively useful, Drought, Thick Fat or Water Absorb
Those are pretty much the possibilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 05:18:27 No.20217967 Report

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>>20217807
It really works in my opinion, he seems like a crazy scientist that is calm and collected and Archie is now a crazy pirate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 15:19:48 No.20221571 Report

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>>20217300
This, a regular evo for it + mega.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 15:22:11 No.20221588 Report

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that's what they said about mega milf

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Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 15:30:31 No.20221665 Report

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>yfw [spoile]buffed Solid Rock[/spoiler:lit]
Drought would also be acceptable if its meant to represent a technically weaker Groudon substitute.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 15:35:10 No.20221698 Report

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>>20217604
No, it just means that the lowest are still in RU.

There could be one mega in RU and his post would still be right.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 15:39:19 No.20221723 Report

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>>20217248
>Intense Heat
>Burns all other Pokemon on the field if hit by a Water type move. Immunity included.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 15:42:07 No.20221740 Report

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Evaporate
As long as this Pokémon is on the field, Water-type moves will fail and all Pokémon that do not resist Fire take damage every turn.

Ice types are OHKOd on the switch-in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 16:03:41 No.20221890 Report

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>>20217248
HP: 70
Attack: 100 (+0)
Defense: 120 (+50)
Sp.Attack: 125 (+20)
Sp.Defense: 120 (+50)
Speed: 20 (-20)
Ability: Water Absorb

Water Absorb's hella unlikely but if it does get it it would actually be pretty amazing. A bulky set with Will-o-wisp/Fire Blast/Earth Power/Filler would be able to take on a lot of top shit like Azumarill, Thundurus, Greninja, Rotom-W, Bisharp, Mega Mawile, Aegislash, and Mega Scizor. Even without Water Absorb it will probably still be okay as long as they focus on its bulk.

The one I'm worried about still sucking even with a mega is Sharpedo. They'd have to do something drastic like draining 50+ points from its special attack to save it. Something like:

HP: 70
Attack: 150 (+30)
Defense: 90 (+50)
Sp.Attack: 35 (-60)
Sp.Defense: 90 (+50)
Speed: 125 (+30)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 16:09:50 No.20221913 Report

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>>20221890
What if it only gets a major boost to one of its defenses.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 16:28:52 No.20222082 Report

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>>20221913

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Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 16:30:35 No.20222090 Report

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>>20221890
>Mega Mawile, Aegislash
Doesnt matter they'll be banned before ORAS come out

With any luck so will Thundurus

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 16:37:05 No.20222132 Report

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>>20217248
Simple is the best ability for it, not Water Absorb or Storm Drain. Even with base Camerupt, you're getting some insane stats. It has a good number of boosting moves like Stockpile, Curse,Double Team and Rock Polish. It may even get more from move tutors and stuff.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 16:42:52 No.20222160 Report

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>>20221723
Thats disgustingly good anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Jul 2014 16:43:49 No.20222166 Report

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>>20221890
They can give Mega Sharpedo the absol treatment and ignore defences altogether.

70/160/40/125/40/125 with Sheer Force would be optimal since most of it's attack options have special effects, physical and special.

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