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Mega Altaria sets

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:13:15 No.20389170 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>20389592 >>20389941 >>20390305 >>20390570 >>20390736

Assuming Mega Altaria gets boosted attack:

Altaria @ Altarite

Ability: Pixilate

Dragon Claw
Return
Coverage move/Roost
Dragon Dance

Boostan Roostan, with maxed HP and Atk with some speed.

R8 and suggest more. M-Lopunny and M-Mence sets also allowed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:19:06 No.20389320 Report

Quoted By: >>20390166

I legitimately don't know how Lopunny with Klutz will work

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:19:08 No.20389321 Report

Quoted By: >>20389457

Mine will definitely be packing Hyper Voice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:22:42 No.20389410 Report

Quoted By: >>20389457

I bet they're making it special oriented for the looks of it.
It's a bummer it doesn't get any special boosting moves, but Hyper Voice is definitely a given.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:24:17 No.20389457 Report

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>>20389321
>>20389410
>MFW it can now breed for Boomburst

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:24:35 No.20389465 Report

Quoted By: >>20389547

I think Normal+Fighting with Scrappy has perfect coverage

Lopunny doesn't seem to get swords dance though. Drain Punch+Return would be pretty neat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:27:39 No.20389547 Report

Quoted By: >>20389730 >>20390017 >>20399770

>>20389465

Shedinja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:27:54 No.20389561 Report

Quoted By: >>20389650 >>20389726 >>20389941

I hope Lopunny learns close combat as a tutor move or something in ORAS.

For now all I can think of for lopunny is:
Lopunny
Ability: Scrappy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out/Quick Attack
- Return
- Drain Punch/Jump Kick
- Ice Punch/Thunder Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:29:05 No.20389592 Report

Quoted By: >>20389726

>>20389170

Jumping the gun much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:29:41 No.20389609 Report

Quoted By: >>20390324

>Pikachu Belle knows Icicle Crash
Please tell me cosplay pikachus are like rotom formes and they can hold lightningball

>Volt Tackle+Icicle Crash for boltbeam coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:31:03 No.20389650 Report

Quoted By: >>20389683 >>20389691

>>20389561
Close combat and return give perfect coverage with scrappy, and they outdamage SE ice punch/drain punch with stab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:32:08 No.20389683 Report

Quoted By:

>>20389650
b-but recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:32:27 No.20389691 Report

Quoted By:

>>20389650
lopunny is more on the kicking side than combat side

it might get hi jump miss tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:32:56 No.20389702 Report

Quoted By:

Altaria
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Roost

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:33:37 No.20389726 Report

Quoted By:

>>20389592
Well it's not like ORAS isn't just part of Gen 6. Most Pokemon already have most of their movesets to speculate from. Getting new signature moves or something mid-gen isn't all too common, especially just for a bunch of random Pokemon getting megas.

And people can probably just do what >>20389561 is doing and hoping for say, Close Combat on Lopunny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:33:56 No.20389730 Report

Quoted By: >>20389886

>>20389547
because that's such an important threat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:36:46 No.20389787 Report

Quoted By: >>20389929

Lopunny @mega dildo
Ability: Scrappy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out/thunder wave
- Return
- Drain Punch
- Jump kek

Here's hoping it gets some moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:40:43 No.20389886 Report

Quoted By:

>>20389730

It is once it Mega evolves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:41:25 No.20389906 Report

Quoted By: >>20389946 >>20390057

Anyone got some Jihadmence sets?

Salamence @Islamite

Ability: Aerilate

Dragon Claw/Outrage
Return/Double Edge/Thrash
Steel Wing/Coverage/Roost
Dragon Dance

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:43:10 No.20389929 Report

Quoted By:

>>20389787
>mega dildo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:43:40 No.20389941 Report

Quoted By: >>20396447

>>20389170
EQ gives you much better coverage than Dragon Claw does. I feel that the better set is:
-Return
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake
-Roost

>>20389561
Seconding the other anon. No need for Elemental punches when you already have perfectly neutral coverage. At most, Ice Punch for 4x weak mons in the meta.
I'd highly prefer:
-Fake Out/Quick Attack
-Return
-Drain Punch/Jump Kick
-Power Up Punch/Ice Punch

Despite the Mega stat boosts, it's Attack is going to need a boost. Thankfully, it gets STAB on PUP now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:43:58 No.20389946 Report

Quoted By: >>20390048

>>20389906
Would would Steel Wing be used for if you're running Return/Thrash? It would do more than its STAB moves if it dealt 4x damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:47:18 No.20389991 Report

Quoted By: >>20390034

So like, M-Altaria has the best typing in the game offering a wealth of resistances and you want to... use it for offence?

Use it as a wall man, Hyper Voice is the only attack it needs. Hyper Voice/Roost/2 filler support moves with Bold/Calm nature depending on what your team needs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:48:25 No.20390017 Report

Quoted By:

>>20389547
>Mega Lopunny used Fire punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:49:17 No.20390034 Report

Quoted By: >>20390065

>>20389991
>best resistances
>wall
>not bulky sweeper
This, children, is why /vp/ should NEVER competitive

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:49:51 No.20390048 Report

Quoted By:

>>20389946
Good point. EQ for Steels then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:50:17 No.20390057 Report

Quoted By:

>>20389906
Salamence
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Double Edge/Return
-Earthquake

It's not difficult anon. EQ for opposing Steels and Diancie.
If you're DDancing, you aren't Roosting. It doesn't have the type or bulk to do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:50:49 No.20390065 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390034
to clarify, the point is it already resists all the shit, so why invest it's bawlk that much, when you're taking half damage from most threats
You may as well abuse this fact, and give it some defense, roost, and and let it sweep without being killed

Investing too much in it's defenses becomes useless when it's that strong already

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:55:19 No.20390127 Report

Quoted By: >>20390275 >>20390276 >>20390344

ASSUMING Mega Salamence keeps being a good mixed attacker.

Salamence @Salamencite

Ability: Aeraliate

Draco Meteor
Hyper Voice
Rock Slide
Fire Blast (I'd run flamethrower but those damn Mawiles)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:57:27 No.20390166 Report

Quoted By:

>>20389320
Mega stones are unaffected by moves, so they'll probably be unaffected by abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:59:32 No.20390207 Report

Quoted By: >>20390415

M-Altaria
Ability: Cloud Nine/Pixilate
Roost
Return
Heal Bell
Toxic/Cotton Guard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 06:59:32 No.20390208 Report

Quoted By: >>20390227 >>20390263 >>20390278

What exactly did M-Mence gain aside from losing Moxie and being able to shoot off 152 BP Flying type moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:00:39 No.20390227 Report

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>>20390208
probably 100 bst, for starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:01:30 No.20390247 Report

Quoted By: >>20390273 >>20390488

Mega Lopunny
252 Atk/Spe
- Work Up or Bulk Up
- some coverage move, or Return, I don't know
- Focus Punch
- Substitute

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:02:13 No.20390260 Report

Quoted By:

mega loppuny more like
>fake out
>sky uppercut/drain punch
>return
>protect

im ready for vgc 2014

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:02:24 No.20390263 Report

Quoted By: >>20390320

>>20390208
you can probably do the pinsir thing, revenge kill, moxie boost, mega evolve

Or intimidate, DD on their now weakened attacker/switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:02:27 No.20390266 Report

Quoted By:

M-Altaria

Altaria @ Altarite
Bold 252HP/252SpA/4Sp
Ability: Pixilate

Hyper Voice
Flamethrower
Roost
Cotton Guard / Toxic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:02:36 No.20390273 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390247
forgot Jolly nature because 131 base speed is just asking to outspeed Jolteon and the like

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:02:45 No.20390275 Report

Quoted By: >>20390287 >>20390314

>>20390127
> Hyper Voice
like that's gonna happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:02:47 No.20390276 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390127
This will destroy the VGC/Doubles metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:02:49 No.20390278 Report

Quoted By: >>20396398

>>20390208
Thrash gets to replace Outrage on its regular sets. Considering a buff to its speed is almost guaranteed it becomes the fastest Dragon-type in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:03:26 No.20390287 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390275
>he doesn't know move tutors can already do it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:04:31 No.20390305 Report

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>>20389170

The fuck do you even need Dragon Claw for? Fairy Return is your anti-dragon and all purpose move, then EQ for poison/steel/fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:04:52 No.20390314 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390275
It already has.
>http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hyper_Voice_(move)#By_Move_Tutor

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:05:03 No.20390320 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390263
Yeah you can still pull of the Moxie but just like M-Gyarados, Intimidate is the superior ability 80% of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:05:15 No.20390324 Report

Quoted By:

>>20389609
>+252 Atk Light Ball Pikachu Volt Tackle vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-W: 313-369 (102.9 - 121.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

JESUS CHRIST

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:06:31 No.20390344 Report

Quoted By: >>20390487

>>20390127
Where is Protect?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:09:53 No.20390405 Report

Quoted By: >>20390584

>Pixilate Hyper Voice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:10:09 No.20390415 Report

Quoted By: >>20390488 >>20390557

>>20390207
I'd say do it more like this:

M-Alteria

Altaria @ Altarite
Sassy 252HP/252SpD/4Sp
Ability: Pixilate/Cloud Nine

Roost
Toxic
Cotton Guard
Hyper Voice/Boomburst (if can be learned)

Use toxic, then Balk up in 2 turns. Afterwards, use Hyper Voice/Boomburst to rekt shit, and use roost for healan in case they get a good hit in.

Unless they can't be affected by poison, or it >misses, once you're set after 2 turns, you are fucking set for the entire battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:14:56 No.20390487 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390344
Even some of current mences don't carry protect for a hydro pump they'll never use anyway.
But I may remove the rockslide for protect since scarfed mence probably can outspeed and kill mega mence with a Draco Meteor

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:15:00 No.20390488 Report

Quoted By: >>20390573

>>20390247
Power Up Punch over Work Up, it doesn't learn Bulk Up.

>>20390415
Your set is walled by Steels. Creating undying walls means nothing if you can't do diddly squat. You also go down to Toxic, despite your resistances, before you let your delusions of grandeur get too big.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:18:44 No.20390557 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390415
What about poison types? They resist fairy and are immune to Toxic.

Stuff like Nidoking and Venusaur could really mess it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:20:00 No.20390570 Report

Quoted By:

>>20389170
The shiny is going to be so nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:20:20 No.20390573 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390488
>it doesn't learn Bulk Up

that was tutor speculation, but PuP is better yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:20:52 No.20390580 Report

Quoted By: >>20390606

M-Altaria + Magnet Pull Magnezone Y/N?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:21:08 No.20390584 Report

Quoted By: >>20390597

>>20390405
>yfw it gets Boomburst in ORAS because muh song birds

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:22:06 No.20390597 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390584
Sweet Jesus

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:22:43 No.20390606 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390580
You would need something to deal with Heatran

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:25:19 No.20390634 Report

Quoted By: >>20390876

Lopunny@Lopunitite
scrappy
252 atk 252 spd 4 sp.def Adamant

Magic coat
return
Drain punch
quick attack/elemental punch based on team coverage

Its got pretty decent speed already, if it boosts both its attack and speed I can see Mega-Lopunny being a monstrous anti-lead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:25:20 No.20390635 Report

Quoted By:

I hope mega lopunny gets at least +50 attack.

HP 65
Attack 130 (+54)
Defense 100 (+16)
Sp. Atk 56
Sp. Def 100 (+4)
Speed 121 (+16)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:32:01 No.20390736 Report

Quoted By: >>20390859 >>20390887 >>20392724

>>20389170
>using it offensively
You're dumb. Mega Altaria is going to be a god tier tank/support.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:38:35 No.20390834 Report

Quoted By:

Modest/Timid depending on speed
Agility
Roost
Fire Blast
Hyper Voice
But I've also already got Bold and Calm so I'll be trying a few defensive ones too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:40:53 No.20390859 Report

Quoted By: >>20392747

>>20390736

>DD boosted 183 damage fairy Return
>using it offensively is dumb

okay nig

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:41:56 No.20390876 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390634

It gets Fake Out too. And Focus Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:43:02 No.20390884 Report

Quoted By: >>20390898 >>20390920

How the fuck will we get Lopunny in ORAS?
I want it for my team now fucking hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:43:11 No.20390887 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390736
If you aren't using its bulk to gather all the Dragon Dances you can, you're being really inefficient with it.

Pixilate won't make up for its poor unboosted offense, and now makes you very susceptible to Toxic.
Running a pure support set is going to leave you hard walled by any Steel or Poison type.

Sure, go Calm + Cotton Guard if you want to tank, but you make sure you get that Dragon Dance in there somewhere. A sitting duck that relies on its unboosted Pixilate Return to scare off opposing setup sweepers is just asking for a bad time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:43:46 No.20390898 Report

Quoted By: >>20390910

>>20390884
Bunneary will probably be an early route Pokémon or a swarm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:44:35 No.20390910 Report

Quoted By: >>20390921

>>20390898
>or a swarm

were those in Hoenn?
I remember HGSS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:45:23 No.20390920 Report

Quoted By: >>20390955

>>20390884
I have 2 Buneary left over if you want one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:45:40 No.20390921 Report

Quoted By: >>20390955

>>20390910
They've been around since Gen II.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:46:31 No.20390934 Report

Quoted By: >>20390956

Mega mence just became a better mega pinsir

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:48:18 No.20390955 Report

Quoted By: >>20390968

>>20390921
Oh man, my bad.

>>20390920
does it have drain punch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:48:22 No.20390956 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390934
That's a good point. Is there even a point in having Mega Pinsir if Mence gets E-Speed like everyone is saying?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:49:53 No.20390968 Report

Quoted By: >>20390990 >>20391005

>>20390955
that's a tutor move, anon; these are KB

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:51:22 No.20390990 Report

Quoted By: >>20391052

>>20390968
I'm pretty sure it's a dreamworld move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:51:59 No.20391005 Report

Quoted By: >>20391052 >>20391069

>>20390968
Are they female?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:55:16 No.20391052 Report

Quoted By: >>20391069

>>20390990
they are KB though

>>20391005
no
they're both penta, jolly, with elemental punches and switcheroo because I wanted to use one for a karenfag team against friends

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:56:38 No.20391069 Report

Quoted By: >>20391078 >>20391116

>>20391052
Thanks a bunch for the offer anon, but I might just breed my own.

>>20391005
>wanting females
disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:57:37 No.20391078 Report

Quoted By: >>20391088

>>20391069
sorry, im not into tranny bunnies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 07:58:23 No.20391088 Report

Quoted By:

>>20391078
literally the worst taste anon

I'll forgive you though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 08:01:04 No.20391116 Report

Quoted By: >>20391152

>>20391069
>Wanting dicks
It's like you don't WANT pussy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 08:04:29 No.20391152 Report

Quoted By:

>>20391116
but she's a bunny, not a cat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 10:59:13 No.20392724 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390736
This.
It may even reach OU tier viability, not by usage maybe but will be definitely be efficient in OU stall teams and as pivot.

Awesome design and with Mega Venusaur one of the best megas that do well in stall teams as massive walls, its Dragon Dance set will be definitely unpopular since it will be mostly used as cleric and pivot relying on Hyper Voice, Draco Meteor, Roost, Heal Bell, Perish Song and Fire Blast, a special Agility set is also plausible but physical one will be still average if not garbage as it always has been.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 11:02:52 No.20392747 Report

Quoted By: >>20392774

>>20390859
I think a Body Slam/Cotton Guard variant is going to be more widely used than dragon dance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 11:04:31 No.20392761 Report

Quoted By:

Altaria @ whatever the megastone is going to be called
Ability: Natural Cure
Timid Nature
- Roost
- Heal Bell / Refresh
- Hyper Voice
- Fire Blast
Gives you perfect coverage and recovery
If only it had a good Spa boosting move ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 11:06:38 No.20392774 Report

Quoted By:

>>20392747
Yeah this will work too, but still with uninvested Attack EVs, just as a pseudo Thunder Wave like the old NU Altaria did with Dragon Breath where uninvested Dragon Pulse was redundant.

It's a defensive Pokemon and has a decent defensive type with lot of support and annoying moves, it was not created to be physically offensive unless the Gen3 case where Altaria had this possibility, but that old meta was pretty limited if it matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 11:08:26 No.20392784 Report

Quoted By: >>20392919

>decent defensive type
You mean the best possible defensive type combination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 11:26:24 No.20392919 Report

Quoted By:

>>20392784
Not in OU, if it won't be OU by usage it will still mantain a perfectly viable role in it, its type becomes one of the best combinations in lower tiers instead where prominent offensive Pokemon with stab super effective moves against it are less common.

It's a Mega Venusaur tier mega, has a solid role but only shows some weaknesses, it's fair enough for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 16:39:31 No.20396398 Report

Quoted By:

>>20390278
>the fastest Dragon-type in the game.
Nah, thats Mega Sceptile

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 16:42:42 No.20396447 Report

Quoted By:

>>20389941
You want Encore so you become a Aegislash counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 16:43:55 No.20396479 Report

Quoted By:

Mega Altaria
Hyper Voice
Flamethrower
HP Ground/Dragon Pulse
Roost

The only set you will ever need

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Aug 2014 20:47:50 No.20399770 Report

Quoted By:

>>20389547
Who the hell is gonna use a Shedinja? No one who is playing seriously in either OU or RU will use a Shedinja. It's not even a plausible threat.

pls go and stay go

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