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Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 00:45:21 No.20421493 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>20421732 >>20421809 >>20421841 >>20423152 >>20423185

Hi /vp/. I haven't played a Pokemon game since Ruby even though I have a DS. Is Diamond and Pearl worth playing or should I skip to B&W? I don't really like the 4th gen Pokemon at all but is the rest of the game good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 00:46:50 No.20421520 Report

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Play Platinum if you want to play 4th gen.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 00:58:36 No.20421732 Report

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>>20421493
Platinum is amazing. Play it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:03:37 No.20421809 Report

Quoted By: >>20421883 >>20422025

>>20421493
Dude just skip to BW2. Especially if you don't like the 4th gen designs (and I can't blame you). The Sinnoh games are plagued as being tedious and having a really annoying rival.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:05:15 No.20421841 Report

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>>20421493
Platinum is awesome.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:07:23 No.20421883 Report

Quoted By: >>20421926

>>20421809
>this fag again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:10:12 No.20421926 Report

Quoted By: >>20422013

>>20421883
Oh please be kind to the newfriend. Don't try to trick him into playing your niche favorite when it's pretty well regarded as being slow.
>I haven't played a Pokemon game since Ruby
Why would you think its a good idea to try to trick someone into playing a Pokemon game that may turn him back off to Pokemon games instead of suggesting a better re entry into the series?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:13:34 No.20421979 Report

Quoted By: >>20422019 >>20422033 >>20422053 >>20422098 >>20422170 >>20423121

Play platinum
Skip gen 5 (there's a reason only vp likes it)
then play gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:15:52 No.20422013 Report

Quoted By: >>20422158

>>20421926
What do you mean by 'trick' him into playing it? He's the one who asked, and most people got into Gen 4 just fine after playing the first three, and it shouldn't be missed out on by any fan of Pokemon.
Also, Platinum isn't nearly as slow as Diamond and Pearl, the battles are about as fast as X and Y's.
So why don't you stop trying to trick him into not playing one of the best entries in the franchise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:16:16 No.20422019 Report

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>>20421979
>then wait till ORAS Z/X2Y2 comes out and pass to gen 6

ftfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:16:37 No.20422025 Report

Quoted By: >>20423108

>>20421809
You really think Barry is worse than Hugh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:16:48 No.20422033 Report

Quoted By: >>20423121

>>20421979
People didn't like Gen V?

I enjoyed it a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:17:42 No.20422053 Report

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>>20421979
Gen 5 is great, dude. BW2 are some of the best games in the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:21:24 No.20422098 Report

Quoted By: >>20422144

>>20421979
>Skip gen 5
Are you retarded? That gen is a must play for any fan trying to catch up. Ignore that anon's post OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:22:15 No.20422108 Report

Quoted By: >>20422132 >>20422176

Gen 4 was awful. Most of the kids on /vp/ were raised on Diamond and Pearl so their nostalgia glasses are pretty thick, but don't listen to any of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:23:16 No.20422123 Report

Quoted By: >>20422177

oh man, can't wait for this to turn into another genwars thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:24:05 No.20422132 Report

Quoted By: >>20422141 >>20422166

>>20422108
Nigga, I've been playing since Red and Platinum is my favorite Pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:24:46 No.20422141 Report

Quoted By: >>20422193

>>20422132
You need to play Emerald or Black 2 then. Hell, even HeartGold is better than Platinum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:24:56 No.20422144 Report

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>>20422098
I agree. Last game I played was emerald, then gotten Y. Played some of B2 and loved it. Played DP on emulators, hated it. And as someone mentioned before, the rival is annoying as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:25:46 No.20422158 Report

Quoted By: >>20422193

>>20422013
>most people
Speak for yourself. Diamond and Pearl was a low point in the series. There's nothing wrong with skipping a pokemon game. Their plots aren't even related.
The slowness isn't simply the battle animation but the plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:25:52 No.20422160 Report

Quoted By: >>20422214

Play Platinum and then either HG/SS. Then Black or White and their corresponding sequel. Then move on to Gen 6.
People will bitch about their favorite being the best and others being shit but ignore them. There's good reason to play each release except Diamond and Pearl, and that's only because Platinum is completely better in every conceivable way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:26:14 No.20422166 Report

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>>20422132
I love platinum the most too
it's the only game that feels complete

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:26:23 No.20422170 Report

Quoted By: >>20422712

>>20421979

I mostly agree with this guy. Platinum is by far the best of gen 4, but honourable mentions to one of HG/SS. Diamond and Pearl have less mons and have a less refined user interface which means loads of extra pointless confirmation.

If you're tempted to go to G5 then go for the second editions. The first iterations of Black / White were slow as fuck on the DS, which you say you have. Plus, more variation in B2/W2.

X+Y are both fun. Hope you enjoy yourself anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:26:37 No.20422174 Report

Quoted By: >>20422213 >>20422246

its funny how the sinnohfags came out of the woodwork as soon as oras were confirmed lol. no one likes gen 4 or 5 or 6 so fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:26:43 No.20422176 Report

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>>20422108

Gen 4 is pretty divided. In my opinion, HGSS were pretty good, probably my favourite games in the series, but D/P/P were extremely unremarkable in almost every way possible. I'd say D/Pearl are skipable, maybe play Platinum just to get familiarized with the generation though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:26:58 No.20422177 Report

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>>20422123
>wait
You better start believing in genwar threads...you're in one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:28:02 No.20422193 Report

Quoted By: >>20422268

>>20422141
I have played every Pokemon game. Platinum manages to edge its way over BW2 as my favorite because of the excellent difficulty curve and progression, as well as having the best region in the series and some of the best music.

>>20422158
>The slowness isn't simply the battle animation but the plot.
>not liking the laid back atmosphere of Gen IV

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:29:22 No.20422213 Report

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>>20422174
>hoennfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:29:28 No.20422214 Report

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>>20422160
>Then Black or White and their corresponding sequel.
Don't do this unless you play pokemon for the story. Whoever does that. They are the same region. B2W2 are better in nearly every way. They are honestly probably the most well polished and featured packed pokemon games in the series so far. I would recommend you just start there OP. If you really want the "Gen 4" experience, you can always go back. But I would start somewhere safe first. Diamond Peal and Platinum have pretty mixed reviews.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:31:27 No.20422246 Report

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>>20422174
What's really funny is that they come into every thread that even utters anything sinnoh or "what is the best pokemon game" and don't just merely say why they think the Sinnoh games are the best but actually try to pass it off as if most of /vp/ and /v/ wouldn't disagree with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:32:37 No.20422268 Report

Quoted By: >>20422299

>>20422193
>the best music.
Kalos is probably better than it and that says a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:34:44 No.20422299 Report

Quoted By: >>20422321 >>20422357

>>20422268
You're wrong, X and Y are the only Pokemon games with unremarkable soundtracks. DPPt is definitely one of the best, with its jazz influenced style and excellent piano MIDI. I think Gen 5 might be a little better, though. Gamefreak did wonders with the DS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:35:52 No.20422321 Report

Quoted By: >>20422391

>>20422299
the only decent and memorable music from gen 5 was the Driftveil theme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:37:45 No.20422357 Report

Quoted By: >>20422391

>>20422299
>You're wrong, X and Y are the only Pokemon games with unremarkable soundtracks
Which is why I said the Kalos soundtrack was probably better.
>with its jazz influenced style
Random notes thrown together=/=jazz, it's shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:38:59 No.20422378 Report

Quoted By: >>20422391

>someone says skip gen 5
>unovafags come in full defense force and attack other gens
truly the worst fanbase on /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:39:49 No.20422391 Report

Quoted By: >>20422432 >>20422540 >>20422957

>>20422321
I strongly disagree, most town themes range from good to excellent, the route themes are pretty solid with some standout tracks like route 28, but where BW music really shines is its battle music.

>>20422357
You have no ear for jazz, then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qteowg4-D-c

>>20422378
Why can't people like multiple gens?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:42:14 No.20422432 Report

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>>20422391
*route 10
I don't know why I typed 28.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:49:03 No.20422540 Report

Quoted By: >>20422587 >>20422626

>>20422391
No you have no ear for jazz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF8y7KgZlW8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:53:17 No.20422587 Report

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>>20422540
>boney lames
0/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:56:23 No.20422626 Report

Quoted By: >>20422687

>>20422540
I feel like most of the jazz is DPPt is more similar to Oscar Peterson's style, or maybe early Ahmad Jamal. It could be the strong presence of piano that permeates its soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwVO3L_CIGQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 01:59:03 No.20422657 Report

Quoted By: >>20422712 >>20422722

I stopped after Gen 4 to pick up again at XY. Sinnoh was really good. Absolutely loved it Heartgold is my favorite pokemon game, with Platinum being second. Even after i got Black, I could never really get into it. Everyone raves over it, but i dunno. Im only like a third through it.

tl;dr Yes fourth gen was good. Would recommend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:01:08 No.20422687 Report

Quoted By: >>20422722

>>20422626
I would say it has more to do with the pace and rhythm and the arrangement of the various instruments. There's a lot going on in the DPPt tracks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:02:35 No.20422712 Report

Quoted By: >>20422835

>>20422657

>>20422170 here.

What ruined the first black and white for me was that god-damned lag when entering a battle. It's not too bad on the 3DS - I guess it has much more processor behind it - but on the DS it was absolutely painful.

It got better for B2/W2 though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:03:09 No.20422722 Report

Quoted By: >>20422748 >>20422835

>>20422657
You might want to try out Black 2 if you can't get into the first one. The region is still pretty weak, but at least your progression through it is a lot more interesting. There's also less of a plot focus, which is a plus for some people.

>>20422687
That's true, there are a lot more harmonies than you would traditionally hear with a jazz trio or quartet that focuses on the piano, and I think that's one of the reasons I like it so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:04:45 No.20422748 Report

Quoted By: >>20422770

>>20422722
I wouldn't call them harmonies. Melodies would probably be more succinct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:06:43 No.20422770 Report

Quoted By: >>20422859

>>20422748
Well many of them are written so that they could be used as melodies with the differences between day and night tracks in the game, but they are still harmonies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:08:29 No.20422792 Report

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>Diamond/Pearl
I don't like to say "never" but I'm pretty sure I will never play those again. The battle speed alone kills it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:11:45 No.20422835 Report

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>>20422712
Ill try and find a cheap B/W2, but honestly the rivals arent fun (They are probably better than X and Y though). I dont feel any need to stop the main Antagonist. Also I hate all the gen 5 starters.

>>20422722
Your recomendation is also duely noted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:12:59 No.20422857 Report

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Platinum is a good game. The Pokemon suck, but the plot, map, and experience is a pleasant one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:13:08 No.20422859 Report

Quoted By: >>20422957

>>20422770
They don't seem very harmonious. Seems to be more dissonance than harmony going on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:19:02 No.20422957 Report

Quoted By: >>20423020

>>20422859
Dissonance isn't necessarily a bad thing, and jazz music is a genre that often employs dissonance to create mood or tension. Take for example the track posted in >>20422391 when compared to its daytime alternative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2DSdeFZ69M
The main piano track in the night theme is used as a harmony in the day, and while occasionally it is dissonant, it makes notes that harmonize within the phrase more pleasing because it builds up to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:22:16 No.20423009 Report

Quoted By: >>20423094

>tfw no qt3.14 gf to cuddle with and play Pokemon while you listen to Mose Allison

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:22:44 No.20423020 Report

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>>20422957
I didn't say it was. But most of what is going on in the Sinnoh tracks seem like dissonance as opposed to harmony. That's probably what puts most people off to it. Most people are used to simple 4/4 pop music afterall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:27:51 No.20423094 Report

Quoted By: >>20423373

>>20423009
>tfw no gf to attend local jazz fests with and all the girls who you meet at them are old black women

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:28:30 No.20423108 Report

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>>20422025
Hugh is miles above Barry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:29:32 No.20423121 Report

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>>20422033
Only a small percentage including >>20421979.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:32:00 No.20423152 Report

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>>20421493

Pokémon Platinum is, by far, the comfiest Pokémon game to ever come out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:34:22 No.20423185 Report

Quoted By: >>20423270

>>20421493
Platinum is still the best Pokemon game I've played yet....because it's my first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:39:39 No.20423270 Report

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>>20423185
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2014 02:47:22 No.20423373 Report

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>>20423094
>go to Jacksonville Jazz Fest every year
>all the qt grills there don't know shit about jazz and just want to party

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