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Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:02:14 No.20451908 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>20451962 >>20452001 >>20452035 >>20452040 >>20452125 >>20452172 >>20452193 >>20452229 >>20452248 >>20456692 >>20456890

What the hell is the point of these two clowns existing when their counterparts are OBJECTIVELY better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:05:15 No.20451962 Report

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>>20451908
Because yolo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:06:57 No.20451991 Report

Quoted By: >>20452078

Why does OP exist when every single person in the world is OBJECTIVELY better than him?

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beandragon 5241 2747 9532 Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:07:21 No.20452001 Report

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>>20451908
>implying groudon is in the same class as yvetl

you insult me anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:09:14 No.20452019 Report

Quoted By: >>20452078

At least it can get use of that drought boost now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:10:10 No.20452035 Report

Quoted By: >>20452078 >>20452083

>>20451908
I really don't get your post. It's like saying "why does Venusaur exist when Charizard is objectively better than it?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:10:23 No.20452040 Report

Quoted By: >>20452078 >>20452244

>>20451908
The earth is 70% water.
There's more births than deaths.
Mystery solved.
Also Groudon and Yveltal are really good pokémon, just because their counterpart is better doesn't make them unusable, especially Yveltal which is actually good when paired up with Xerneas and standalone as it counters all Mewtwos and has the most powerful Knock off in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:13:09 No.20452078 Report

Quoted By: >>20452088 >>20452121 >>20452159

>>20451991
>>20452019
>>20452035
>>20452040
le trolled

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:13:41 No.20452083 Report

Quoted By: >>20452105

>>20452035

>Mega Venasaur gets Thick fat
>Now can successfully wall Charizard

There's no backup measure for Groudon or Yveltal for their typings. Xerneas and Kyogre will always trump them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:13:59 No.20452088 Report

Quoted By: >>20452104 >>20452159

>>20452078
le just pretending faec

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:14:51 No.20452104 Report

Quoted By: >>20452121 >>20452159

>>20452088
le mad
le damage control face

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:14:52 No.20452105 Report

Quoted By: >>20452124

>>20452083
>what is Air Slash, Drought Flamethrower or Tough Claws Outrage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:16:34 No.20452121 Report

Quoted By: >>20452143

>>20452104
you quoted the wrong post.
here, let me redirect you: >>20452078

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:16:48 No.20452124 Report

Quoted By: >>20452151

>>20452105
>Flamethrower
>not Fire Blast
what are you, a pussy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:16:51 No.20452125 Report

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>>20451908
Think about it this way, if they didn't exist, we wouldn't have:

>a badass dinosaur-like earth monster and the heaviest pokemon ever
>a badass and edgy bird that is the personification of death itself

Don't get me wrong, Kyogre and Xerneas are badasses too, but some things are there for their cool design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:17:50 No.20452143 Report

Quoted By: >>20452177

>>20452121
le very mad face
le damage control face

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:18:01 No.20452151 Report

Quoted By: >>20452165

>>20452124
RNG hates me, so yea. More comfortable with 100 accuracy moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:18:34 No.20452159 Report

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>>20452078
>>20452088
>>20452104
>ITT 9faggers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:18:52 No.20452165 Report

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>>20452151
Fair enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:19:30 No.20452172 Report

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>>20451908
>What's the point of Groudon existing?
Do you want the entire world to be an ocean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:19:41 No.20452177 Report

Quoted By: >>20452197

>>20452143
you seem to have made that mistake again, maybe I should redirect you here: >>>/b/ or here: http://www.reddit.com/
thanks for trying to make an intelligent post, you did your best. It's not your fault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:20:54 No.20452193 Report

Quoted By: >>20452219 >>20452223

>>20451908
Because there's a very finely tuned balance between Kyogre/Xerneas being competitively better and Groudon/Yveltal's designs not looking like crap and shit respectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:21:09 No.20452197 Report

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>>20452177
does it ever stop?
LMAO! xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:23:12 No.20452219 Report

Quoted By: >>20454619

>>20452193

>Not Liking Kyogre's design

I'd rather take the bad ass whale/leviathan thing over the shit dinosaur

Yveltal has the better design though I'll give you that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:23:22 No.20452223 Report

Quoted By: >>20452277 >>20454619

>>20452193
Are you trying to say Kyogre has a shitty design?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:24:06 No.20452229 Report

Quoted By: >>20452241 >>20452265

>>20451908
They look better than their counterparts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:25:08 No.20452241 Report

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>>20452229
But that's wrong though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:25:20 No.20452244 Report

Quoted By: >>20452291

>>20452040
Crawdaunt has the most powerful knock off in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:25:39 No.20452248 Report

Quoted By: >>20452275

>>20451908
dude groundon is such a good pokemon, have you ever even used him??

hes so good against the elite 4, just have him use my set that i used.

flametheowre, overheat, bulk up, shock wave.

just bulk up a bunch and then use one of the moves, its easy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:26:58 No.20452265 Report

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>>20452229
Ground Lobster does not look better then a geddamn Orca Whale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:27:51 No.20452275 Report

Quoted By: >>20457088

>>20452248
>Using Legendaries in the main game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:27:51 No.20452277 Report

Quoted By: >>20452284

>>20452223
Are you trying to say it doesn't ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:28:17 No.20452284 Report

Quoted By: >>20452303

>>20452277
It's a lot better than Groudon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:28:58 No.20452291 Report

Quoted By: >>20452306 >>20455348

>>20452244
252+ Atk Choice Band Dark Aura Yveltal Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Manaphy: 237-279 (69.5 - 81.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Manaphy: 222-262 (65.1 - 76.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Nope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:30:09 No.20452303 Report

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>>20452284
no way in hell

ray better than both though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:30:21 No.20452306 Report

Quoted By: >>20452319

>>20452291
Doesn't matter since Yveltal doesn't actually have Knock Off yet. Are you sure you didn't mean it has the most powerful Sucker Punch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:30:42 No.20452314 Report

Quoted By: >>20452414

Isn't mega groudon immune to water?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:31:15 No.20452319 Report

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>>20452306
Oh, yes, my bad. I was sure it had Knock off.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:32:53 No.20452339 Report

Quoted By: >>20452382

If Kyogre is so good then why did Groudon won the only Worlds were he and Kyogre were allowed?

Kyogre did not even make it to finals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:35:55 No.20452382 Report

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>>20452339
because u're mum gave birth to a retard :^)

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Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:37:32 No.20452414 Report

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>>20452314
Yes. It is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 17:50:53 No.20452609 Report

Quoted By: >>20455569

each one of those pokemon have their pros and cons. Groudon has the hardest hitting earthquake in all the game, making him a total rapist on the ground game. then yveltal has the hardest hitting knock off. so dont give that bullshit that they suck and have no chance against their counter parts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 19:47:31 No.20454560 Report

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>implying the third member of every cover trio isn't always the best

Rayquaza > Groundon = Kyogre
Giratina > Palkia > Dialga
Kyurem > Zerkom > Reshiam
Zygarde > Xerneas > Yvetal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 19:48:33 No.20454578 Report

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It's just the typing

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Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 19:50:46 No.20454619 Report

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>>20452219
>>20452223
It looks like a retarded whale

>hurr I liek water

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Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 20:33:49 No.20455348 Report

Quoted By: >>20455379

>>20452291
>fully investing Attack on Yveltal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 20:35:24 No.20455379 Report

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>>20455348
>hardest hitting priority in the game in STAB+dark aura sucker punch
>not wanting this
What the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 20:38:03 No.20455430 Report

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Mega Groudon is actually a much, much needed thing for OU that honestly might see even more use than Kyogre.
Being Fire is its saving grace. It's gonna directly counter Xerneas, which is overtaking Ubers harder than like, weather wars took over Gen 5.

Yveltal's just cool and has its niches. It's worse than Xerneas at everything because Xerneas is stupid broken but makes a fantastic tank with oblivion wing and hits hard as fuck on any of its dark moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 20:44:32 No.20455569 Report

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>>20452609
>Groudon has the hardest hitting earthquake in all the game
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Diggersby Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 214-253 (54.3 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Groudon Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 202-238 (51.2 - 60.4%) -- 91.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Nope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 20:47:40 No.20455636 Report

Quoted By: >>20455867

Groundon would have been better with Sandstream

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Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 20:58:38 No.20455867 Report

Quoted By: >>20456755

>>20455636
>Sandstream being better now
>When it's Primal form now gets Fire STAB alongside Drought's sun boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 21:35:17 No.20456639 Report

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>Yfw everyone hypes primal kyogre and Groudon ends up the better of the two

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Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 21:37:25 No.20456692 Report

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>>20451908
Because Kyogre needs something to eat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 21:40:36 No.20456755 Report

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>>20455867
I think he was talking about regular Groudon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 21:47:22 No.20456890 Report

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>>20451908
>people who talk about ubers without actually playing ubers
Their counterparts are more viable, but they are not "better" because they do different shit. And Yveltal is legit one of the best mons in ubers, but they made Xerneas the best sweeper to have ever existed since RBY Mewtwo.

And their point is that each version of the game needs a mascot, dingus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Aug 2014 21:57:01 No.20457088 Report

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>>20452275
>Using legendaries in anything besides the main game.

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