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Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2014 23:51:15 No.20567293 View View Reply Original Report

Say one legitimately bad thing about smogon

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Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2014 23:51:43 No.20567297 Report

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Smog is dangerous.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2014 23:52:06 No.20567306 Report

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shitty rules

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Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2014 23:52:18 No.20567309 Report

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pachirisu isn't ou

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Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2014 23:52:41 No.20567319 Report

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Its community is full of faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2014 23:52:54 No.20567328 Report

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No attack animations

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:33:59 No.20567968 Report

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>>20567293
The candy ass community

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:34:53 No.20567981 Report

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>>20567293
pretentious as fuck

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:35:36 No.20567987 Report

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>>20567293
Their mods are shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:36:04 No.20567995 Report

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They teach people to autopilot in battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:39:26 No.20568041 Report

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>>20567293
They banned Aegislash, despite it having a ton of counters. every fire, ground, and dark type in OU fucks it over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:40:33 No.20568063 Report

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>>20567293
They think Stall is a good thing.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:41:36 No.20568079 Report

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>>20567293
They think they know everything

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:42:17 No.20568096 Report

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They ban too eagerly.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:43:34 No.20568117 Report

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Haunter is a bad community leader

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:43:39 No.20568121 Report

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Even with Eviolite, it is shit. I'm sorry, but there's really no redeeming Koffing.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:44:32 No.20568136 Report

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>>20567293
They have a genie fetish and have been suspecting relatively unimportant shit for a while now so they can keep their precious Thundurus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:44:35 No.20568138 Report

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>>20568041
>a pokemon with weaknesses shouldnt be banned

Eelektross confirmed Uber

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:44:35 No.20568139 Report

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>>20568121
A fucking hour later and someone finally answers me correctly

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:44:52 No.20568146 Report

Quoted By: >>20568217

movesets are predictable and its "rules" are bullshit, anyone with an iq above potato can counter any of the banned pokemon they have banned.

its the lowest common denominator and adds nothing to the game other than to serve newbies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:47:13 No.20568178 Report

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>>20567293
people use cookie cutter sets because of them

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:48:22 No.20568197 Report

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Their playerbase is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:49:09 No.20568217 Report

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>>20568178
>>20568146
Lmao shows how shitty /vp/'s knowledge is about competitive

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:51:00 No.20568242 Report

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They dont know how to handle the meta anymore and decided to let 13 years do that job

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 00:57:34 No.20568343 Report

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>>20568217

whatever you say faggot, keep on keeping on, maybe someone will take you seriously (that will never happen)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 01:09:10 No.20568505 Report

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>>20567293
New user 420:
>hey guys, i'll make this thread to talk about this random shitmon! (Read: Pachirisu) for example)
Mod:
>Smogon is srs bzns. Thread closed, used b&, see me after class, the cops broke in your house to stomp on your puppy and you' re probably behind 9/11 too
I love their mentality about the Tiering system and the like, but they' ve been getting more and more obnoxious every time i go back to ps. Their downfall (for me) started when they didn't ban weather last gen.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 01:10:24 No.20568521 Report

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>>20567319

This one is true. And this includes their staff, and especially their moderators.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 01:15:16 No.20568600 Report

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The Mods. No I'm dead serious. Every mod on Smogon acts like an entitled Douchebag. I don't really have a problem with the community because they've been pretty helpful to me, but holy shit their mods are the worst bunch of fucks I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 01:18:02 No.20568641 Report

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The community is full of retards who love sucking moderator cock. This has gone so far that it actually affects their suspect tests and bans and even the mods acknowledge this. Picture very related.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 01:18:04 No.20568642 Report

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>>20568138
nice reading comprehension.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 01:20:27 No.20568694 Report

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 01:29:55 No.20568861 Report

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Because Somalia is gone

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 01:33:36 No.20568939 Report

Quoted By: >>20569008

So far they have done a lot of agressive and half-hazard bans for some reason to push stall as the best strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 01:36:29 No.20569008 Report

Quoted By: >>20595283

>>20568939
>half-hazard
haphazard anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 04:42:53 No.20572222 Report

Quoted By: >>20572693

>>20567293
They're petulant morons that ban everything that they don't like, and when Pokemon don't fit into their shitty broken tiers, they ban them instead of admitting the tiniest flaw, because Smogon is perfectly balanced, and is the Official ruleset, unlike that "Official" ruleset that the designers of Pokemon made.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 04:46:43 No.20572258 Report

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They are the stop having fun guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 04:49:16 No.20572277 Report

Quoted By: >>20575089 >>20590359

>>20568217

>competitive

What's competitive about it? The only real 'competitive' format is the VGC format, and the official tournaments.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 04:50:40 No.20572293 Report

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no matter what they do to decentralize the meta, it will always end up centralizing itself around a new Pokemon. they're just replacing one threat with another by banning things.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 04:54:41 No.20572338 Report

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Why isn't it called Koffing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 04:57:29 No.20572376 Report

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they told me my bro is shit and they are right sadly ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 04:59:32 No.20572395 Report

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They're all a bunch of faggots.

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Resident Stevil 1891-2469-2973 Normal (Audino, Teddiursa, Ditto) !53VVc2czTU Mon 18 Aug 2014 05:00:33 No.20572407 Report

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>>20567293
They are legitimately worse than Adolf Hitler.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 05:25:33 No.20572693 Report

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>>20572222
Quads have it.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 11:12:51 No.20575089 Report

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>>20572277
How? What makes them "the only real" formats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 11:15:01 No.20575105 Report

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It needs more hp.

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CAPSLOCK Mon 18 Aug 2014 11:33:18 No.20575237 Report

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>>20567293
THEY CAUSE PEOPLE WHO DON'T PLAY BY THEIR RULES TO BITCH ABOUT THEIR RULES.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 19:14:49 No.20579650 Report

Quoted By: >>20584721

>>20575089

Because they're official and endorsed by GF?

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 19:17:12 No.20579679 Report

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The people/mods in the forums are a bunch of elitist up tight and stuck up assholes that take anything you say about a Japanese children's RPG way too seriously.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2014 23:19:05 No.20583599 Report

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>>20567293
It's Smogon.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 00:16:38 No.20584600 Report

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>>20567293
Oglemi

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 00:20:58 No.20584701 Report

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persecution complex almost as bad as furfags.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 00:21:46 No.20584721 Report

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>>20579650
the rules change every year though

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 02:45:40 No.20587189 Report

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>>20584721

And that makes them less official how?

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 02:49:03 No.20587234 Report

Quoted By: >>20587578

>>20567293
They (at leasting, /vp/ smogonfags) preach about how you should all "git gud" yet abide by the banning of insignificant shit like Swagger.
>telling people to git gud while wanting stuff banned

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 02:59:45 No.20587434 Report

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The mere mention of their name will cause a shitstorm

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 03:09:05 No.20587578 Report

Quoted By: >>20588253 >>20590347

>>20587234
No one in /vp/'s smogonbase wants Swagger banned but they understand why it needed to be banned/

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 04:05:51 No.20588253 Report

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>>20587578
>why it needed to be banned
Because Smogon is full of crybabies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 08:53:12 No.20590336 Report

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>>20567293
Ginganinja's an autistic hambeast cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 08:54:57 No.20590347 Report

Quoted By: >>20596910

>>20587578
Swagger gets banned, but Flatter doesn't?

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 08:57:50 No.20590359 Report

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>>20572277
It's competitive because it's made up of a community of people playing the game to win. Being official or not is completely irrelevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 09:03:22 No.20590391 Report

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Smogon is okay. People don't realize that GF balances the game around doubles now and smogon tries to make a ruleset for 6v6. Just because something is okay in doubles doesn't mean it's okay in singles. That being said, I think smogon is retarded for trying to make 6v6 the "competitive" format when doubles is vastly superior.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 09:04:02 No.20590397 Report

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They're not named DOGARS

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 09:04:46 No.20590401 Report

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>>20567293
Smogon

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 14:36:09 No.20592248 Report

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they exist

they also ban fun :^)

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 15:35:58 No.20592851 Report

Quoted By: >>20592941

>>20567293
Trying to balance the game by banning the most efficient means of winning just means the second most efficient means of winning is going to fill the void and need to be banned.

You can't fix an inherently broken system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 15:43:10 No.20592941 Report

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>>20592851
All the shit that's been banned has either been a former uber (space cancer, Genesect,) ridiculous offensive powerhouses (Mega Luke, Mega Mom, Mega Mawile [soon],) legitimately the most broken (in singles) pokemon Gamefreak has ever made (Mega Gengar) and then Aegislash.

After Mawile, Genies, and MAYBE X-zard goes, I'm just going to let you know that nothing else is suspect worthy.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 15:50:14 No.20593011 Report

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>they just ban stuff because they can't deal with it
>lol Mega Mom is easy to counter git gud
>suspect tests are rigged
>they'll just ban everything until we're left with Magikarp splash wars
>they all use cookie-cutter sets and teams
>they love HO
>they love stall
>they love the genies
>they said my bro is unviable in OU, thread locked
>they only ban things because [one specific reason as a opposed to multiple reasons]
>they're going to ban all the megas
>something something Verlisify
>checks = counters
>I complain about their rules even though I don't play them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 15:54:22 No.20593067 Report

Quoted By: >>20593567

Community is cancerous. The councils suspect things without giving the metas time to adjust, the people voting are stupid children who ban things for awful reasons (muh 50/50s), there are few creative team-builders in the community, and on the whole Smogon servers have very little team variety.

There's nothing wrong with the site in theory, it's just filled with try-hard assholes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 16:09:05 No.20593232 Report

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>>20567293
One thing legitimately wrong with Smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 16:32:37 No.20593505 Report

Quoted By: >>20593890

>>20567293
Trying to get 4v4 double battle mechanics to function properly in 6v6 single battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 16:37:32 No.20593567 Report

Quoted By: >>20594239

>>20593067
>The councils suspect things without giving the metas time to adjust
Can't be said for all of them
Aegislash and Deoxys were around for months

MLuke, Genesect, MGengar, Megamom and Mega Blaziken were all cancer

Once Mawile goes, all they need to do is suspect the genies and the meta will be somewhat decent again

There's a small chance of ZardX getting suspected and there's a miniscule chance of them ever suspecting Keldeo

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 16:39:09 No.20593588 Report

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this thread is full of perfect answers

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 16:40:50 No.20593612 Report

Quoted By: >>20593691

>>20567293
Fuck Smogon, why should I care about their rules? They aren't official and they don't apply outside their shit simulators.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 16:42:46 No.20593642 Report

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>>20568041
Lel wtf they banned Aegislash? Anything that had Earthquake could kill it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 16:45:30 No.20593691 Report

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>>20593612
It's too bad smogon is the most popular competitive ruleset

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 16:56:24 No.20593890 Report

Quoted By: >>20595010

>>20593505

Gamefreak is retarded not to support 6v6 singles. You spend the entire game playing like this and then they make it so only doubles is competetive. It's bullshit and even if you prefer doubles, it should never have become more important than singles.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 17:02:49 No.20593999 Report

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>>20567293
It exists

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 17:13:57 No.20594239 Report

Quoted By: >>20596803

>>20593567
>Mawile is suspect
Jesus christ, its so easy to counter, why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 17:16:46 No.20594295 Report

Quoted By: >>20594613

Showdown's gen 6 sprites look like total shit.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 17:40:12 No.20594613 Report

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>biased in favor of stall (STag being the clearest example)
>complete control over the 6v6 singles metagame
>generic bias towards what deserves to be suspect tested (Swagger is banned because nobody likes RNG playing for you, paraflinch is not)
>based around copypasting their sets, removes most of the discovery aspect

Also Showdown=/=Smogon

>>20594295 just reminding that due to GF not doing gen VI sprites, it's up to the community to do them

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 18:07:47 No.20595010 Report

Quoted By: >>20596955

>>20593890
You spend the entire game playing 6v1, 6v2 or 6v3.

There's like three to five full battles in the whole game, and it's been that way since gen I.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 18:26:50 No.20595283 Report

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>>20569008
Those mistakes are a diamond dozen.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 20:30:52 No.20596803 Report

Quoted By: >>20598561

>>20594239
>easy to counter
that is plain wrong
mawile has a total of 2 and a shaky third counter
arcanine, which is pretty shit outside of switching into mawile
weezing, same as arcanine
and mega venusaur which cant do much back besides synthesis until it runs out of pp and dies to iron head
if you can find me a counter that has uses outside of switching into mega mawile, please tell me
remember: counter means switch in with little to no risk to every set, and force out or wall

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 20:35:50 No.20596910 Report

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>>20590347
Flatter can't be paired with foul play.
Not to mention, special attack boost doesn't do shit when the 'mon hits itself, while a boost to attack does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 20:38:05 No.20596955 Report

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>>20595010
The term singles more implies one in play at a time each, not equal teams.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 20:45:29 No.20597092 Report

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The simple fact that if you give your opinion about smogon (Like this thread), you'll have smogonfags trying to be defensive smartasses about their competitive-but-not-really scene.

Trying to enforce their rules and bans to the entire community. I've seen streamers going smogon rules but won't hesitate to argue certain smogon bans are dumb.

Karenfags can be noisy because smogonfags will call shit anything which isn't Scizor or Talonflame. Pachirisu was a big surprise on a VGC full of pseudos, but you see smogon pulling the no fun in every discussion about it.

The fact several Pokemon analysis are made by calculating odds when the game is so RNG heavy. Which is fine if it wasn't the level of autism the calculations can reach.

And obviously, the fact Smogon isn't an offical nintendo thing and at the end of the day is overall meaningless. Is "house rules" pretending to be official.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 21:22:46 No.20597671 Report

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Smogon exists because GF is shit at making the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 21:27:40 No.20597753 Report

Quoted By: >>20597766 >>20597922 >>20597991

>New feature added called mega evolutions
>Smogon slowly bans them all one by one

Other then that I could careless what they do. I enjoy playing the cartridge and breeding and leveling up my Pokemons. If they like quick battling with everything banned and all sorts of clauses thats their problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 21:28:42 No.20597766 Report

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>>20597753
>>Smogon slowly bans them all one by one

:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 21:38:29 No.20597922 Report

Quoted By: >>20597953

>>20597753
Last Mega to get banned was six months ago bruh. Slowly is an understatement, at this rate there would be like four more banned, max, by the time Gen 7 comes out (assuming here's that many worth banning, which there isn't unless you count whatever bullshit comes out in ORAS.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 21:41:02 No.20597953 Report

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>>20597922
Not to mention they only ban the obviously OP ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 21:42:56 No.20597991 Report

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>>20597753
mega aggron to be banned any day

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2014 22:19:57 No.20598561 Report

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>>20596803
What is Charizard, Alex?

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