>>20610034Not at all, but in some cases they aren't as helpful as you'd want. Setting up Nasty Plot or Swords Dacne can help you break some walls, and CM can be great as it makes you bulky and threatening offensively. But it doesn't matter how fast you're going if your opponent has something that's immune to your STAB or just plain out tanks anything you try hitting it with, and a quite a few things will if you're going for a max-Speed M-Ampharos. And yes, setting up TR does take a turn, but that's why you use suitable partners, like another anon suggested Bronzong in this case. Bulky, can take a hit, set up TR, then lets you switch in M-Ampharos. Good typing synergy, too, as Bronzong can take Dragon, Ice, Fairy and Ground moves that M-Ampharos would rather avoid. Not to mention that the moveslot you would've put Agility in on could go to something better.