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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:10:11 No.20612087 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>20612115 >>20612116 >>20612200 >>20612317 >>20612873 >>20612963 >>20614893 >>20616191 >>20624937

As soon as the Swampertite gets released this November, this guy's entire existence would be meaningless.
Outclassed bros thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:11:44 No.20612115 Report

Quoted By: >>20612354 >>20613387 >>20615315

>>20612087
>Water Absorb

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:11:48 No.20612116 Report

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>>20612087

Mega Seismitoad with Sand Rush

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:13:28 No.20612163 Report

Quoted By: >>20612238 >>20612374 >>20613134

I'm a little worried Mega Lopunny will be better than Mienshao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:14:26 No.20612178 Report

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You mean as a Thundurus check for rain teams in singles, but even then it's really not worth using over Kingdra or Omastar because they can just use Latias?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:14:41 No.20612182 Report

Quoted By: >>20612196 >>20612291 >>20612304 >>20612914

Fucking eviolite I swear.
The idea that a NFE is better than it's final stage is ridiculous

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:15:32 No.20612196 Report

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>>20612182
Both are awful anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:15:38 No.20612200 Report

Quoted By: >>20612261

>>20612087
good. seismitoad is gross looking anyway

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:17:30 No.20612228 Report

Quoted By: >>20612319

Not likely considering hypnotoxic laser is still in rotation

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:17:59 No.20612238 Report

Quoted By: >>20612315

>>20612163

but Mienshao's niche is Regenerator and Reckless, 2 abilities that work wonders with High Jump Kick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:19:39 No.20612261 Report

Quoted By: >>20612298

>>20612200
This. Could have been a decent design without the tits on its head.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:20:58 No.20612291 Report

Quoted By: >>20612304 >>20612914

>>20612182
I'm with ya, bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:21:45 No.20612298 Report

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>>20612261
exactly. this guy gets it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:22:05 No.20612304 Report

Quoted By: >>20612311 >>20612321

>>20612182
>>20612291
> Eviolite
> In Knockoff meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:22:41 No.20612311 Report

Quoted By: >>20612325

>>20612304
>implying Knock Off stopped Chansey from being in the top 10 for usage in OU

Charles 0044-3137-0154

Charles 0044-3137-0154 Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:22:55 No.20612315 Report

Quoted By: >>20612331

>>20612238
Having a hjk that can hit ghosts instead of crashing is a pretty good niche too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:23:25 No.20612317 Report

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>>20612087
Good. That thing is absolutely disgusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:23:34 No.20612319 Report

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>>20612228
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:23:45 No.20612321 Report

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>>20612304
Dusclops is shit anyway
Chansey is screwed by Knock Off but it's not like Blissey can beat any Knock Off users. Like I think the ONLY niche Blissey has over Chansey is being able to beat Knock Off Landorus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:24:03 No.20612325 Report

Quoted By: >>20612343

>>20612311
It's better to have blissey with leftovers than chansey with evolite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:24:32 No.20612331 Report

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>>20612315

yes, but you need a mega stone for it.

Mienshao won't be Outclassed. That was my point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:25:14 No.20612343 Report

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>>20612325
>implying
No it's not, otherwise Blissey would be used more and still be in OU
Chansey with Eviolite is the best special wall in the entire game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:25:58 No.20612354 Report

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>>20612115
> What is Vaporeon
> What is Jellicent
Just face it. Speakers toad has no real niche.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:27:50 No.20612374 Report

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>>20612163
>Mienshao gets regenerator and reckless
>Can use an item
Lopunny will have higher speed, but likely lower attack. Mienshao will still have its role.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:36:37 No.20612483 Report

Quoted By: >>20612507 >>20612760 >>20612855 >>20612896 >>20613694

I dig Ferrothorn too, but Forretress has been my steadfast bro ever since Colosseum. He's so unusable with Charizard and Talonflame everywhere, and that Explosion nerf didn't help either. And the lack of Cutsap berry. Yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:38:27 No.20612507 Report

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>>20612483
Pair it with Heatran or any bulky water type and you'll be fine.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 18:59:09 No.20612760 Report

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>>20612483
>tfw I'm not the only one who likes Forretress

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:05:39 No.20612855 Report

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>>20612483
My nigga. Forretress was a complete bro in gen 3 and 4, but Gamefreak has not been kind to it.
>tfw running Zap Cannon to screw over people who think they can switch in Gyarados to Taunt and set up on you
Sure it wasn't very reliable, but it was so satisfying when it hit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:07:05 No.20612873 Report

Quoted By: >>20613134 >>20614932

>>20612087
outclassed thread? I- I'm not alone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:08:37 No.20612896 Report

Quoted By: >>20613321 >>20615292

>>20612483
>not using Forretress lead with Red Card
you'll never laugh harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:10:09 No.20612914 Report

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>>20612182
>>20612291
Being a Dusknoir and Blissey fan is suffering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:14:09 No.20612963 Report

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>>20612087
Sorry, it's always been the worst Water/Ground.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:26:42 No.20613134 Report

Quoted By: >>20621175

>>20612163
Mega Lopunny can't use Swords Dance or U-Turn.
Mienshao is safe.
>>20612873
Boy, it must suck to be outclassed twice over. Porygon-Z unrelated

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:38:29 No.20613262 Report

Quoted By: >>20613282 >>20613302 >>20621175

At least every other Pokemon in the thread has a purpose. This guy is outclassed as an SR layer, outclassed as a double dancer, outclassed as a tank and a wall, has a unique typing that arguably does more harm than good, and two rather useless abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:40:10 No.20613282 Report

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>>20613262
And I still love it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:41:55 No.20613302 Report

Quoted By: >>20613354 >>20613385 >>20614418

>>20613262
Ground beats Fire and Poison, while Grass resists Grass and Water. It should've been he perfect pair. Where did it all go wrong?
Could Horn Leech and Shell Smash save Torterra?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:42:54 No.20613312 Report

Quoted By: >>20614398

Worse Gyarados.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:44:01 No.20613321 Report

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>>20612896
doing this and will always keep doing this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:47:02 No.20613354 Report

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>>20613302
Taught mine a Rock move to handle any Bugs, Flying-types or Ice Pokemon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:49:06 No.20613385 Report

Quoted By: >>20613974

>>20613302
>Shell Smash
>Horn Leech
>Earhquake
>Stone Edge to kill birds
>95/105/85 defs

10/10 would use everyday

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 19:49:09 No.20613387 Report

Quoted By:

>>20612115
>Freeze-Dry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 20:10:26 No.20613646 Report

Quoted By: >>20624987

So many based Forrebros in this thread.

What if it got Powder in ORAS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 20:14:17 No.20613691 Report

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>Sandslash has been my favorite mon since Gen 1
>outclassed by other Ground types in every way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 20:14:26 No.20613694 Report

Quoted By: >>20614847

>>20612483
>unusable because [one pokemon] exists
This isn't how it works

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 20:35:06 No.20613974 Report

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>>20613385
Torterra does have some nice bulky ass stats. It would make a great AV carrier if it had Rock Head or Regenerator.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 21:11:45 No.20614398 Report

Quoted By: >>20624722

>>20613312
On the other hand Feraligatr could be saved if they just released it's HA Sheer Force. It's a goddamn menace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 21:13:28 No.20614418 Report

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>>20613302
It all went wrong when they made it slow and just okayish offensively and okayish defensively. If they focused defenses into just one stat and made it faster it'd be a lot more useful. Or fast and strong.

Basically any Grass/Ground type wants to be fast.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 21:34:12 No.20614720 Report

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I still love him

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 21:41:39 No.20614847 Report

Quoted By: >>20614873

>>20613694
More like "unusable because [an entire type] exists"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 21:43:14 No.20614873 Report

Quoted By: >>20615292

>>20614847

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 21:44:17 No.20614893 Report

Quoted By:

>>20612087

He was always outclassed. Sorry to break it to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 21:46:32 No.20614932 Report

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>>20612873

He's an amazing choice scarf user and scout. I use him very successfully but he could be better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 21:59:08 No.20615217 Report

Quoted By: >>20616263

My bro...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 22:03:40 No.20615292 Report

Quoted By: >>20624722

>>20614873
Maybe try what >>20612896
said? Or try Weakness Policy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 22:04:39 No.20615315 Report

Quoted By:

>>20612115
Then it is just outclassed by Gastrodon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 22:55:30 No.20616191 Report

Quoted By: >>20616451

>>20612087
;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 22:59:11 No.20616263 Report

Quoted By: >>20618573

>>20615217
How is octillery outclassed?
How do you even run octillery?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2014 23:07:07 No.20616451 Report

Quoted By: >>20618524

>>20616191
forgot the picture, dammit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 01:20:09 No.20618524 Report

Quoted By: >>20620407 >>20620693

>>20616451
Machamp isn't outclassed yet.
Conk is tank while Champ is more of a glass cannon/revenge killer also no-gaurd Dynamic punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 01:21:58 No.20618558 Report

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Seismitoad is one of the most common Pokes in NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 01:22:50 No.20618573 Report

Quoted By:

>>20616263
>How do you even run octillery?
Water Spout Critopus is the only thing that makes sense, ideally with Trick Room support.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 03:29:43 No.20620407 Report

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>>20618524
but Machamp is waaaay behind usage now

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 03:53:11 No.20620681 Report

Quoted By: >>20621088

>tfw fairy types
>tfw base 98 speed
>tfw no good boosting moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 03:54:08 No.20620693 Report

Quoted By: >>20624467

>>20618524
>mach punch
>drain punch
>iron fist

Machamp is useless now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 04:27:56 No.20621088 Report

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>>20620681
>tfw no nasty plot

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 04:37:54 No.20621175 Report

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Fuck your overgrown dog and fuck your gorilla.

>>20613134
>>20613262
My niggas.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 04:43:09 No.20621225 Report

Quoted By: >>20625906

>heavy-hitting Trick Room Psychic
>outclassed by every other Psychic released in Gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 04:48:04 No.20621265 Report

Quoted By: >>20624535 >>20624955

Electivire has been pretty shit gen 5 onwards.

to the point where it's just a letdown and is no longer my bro

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 11:10:55 No.20624467 Report

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>>20620693
that really hurts, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 11:21:01 No.20624535 Report

Quoted By:

>>20621265
then it was never your bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 11:54:53 No.20624722 Report

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>>20615292
But fairies. Its the same reason Jotaro Kujo isn't as useful as anyone would like. Fairy being SE to dark and resisting it is completely unnecessary.

>>20614398
I feel like Johto, Unova, and Sinnoh starters are gonna be in ORAS safari.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 12:27:56 No.20624937 Report

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>>20612087
It was never used even before Mega Swampert. Nothing will change in that regard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 12:30:12 No.20624955 Report

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>>20621265
Sorry to break that to you, but it was fucking useless in gen 4 too.

Idiots just loved pairing it with Gyarados for le epic ruse xd combo in gen IV, which never worked outside of elo hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 12:36:31 No.20624987 Report

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>>20613646
the ultimate justice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 14:19:34 No.20625906 Report

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>>20621225
ayy lmao
sorry about that. I like beheeyem and just wanted to be cool

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