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Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 01:59:18 No.20619059 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>20619092

ITT: We create moves that would make some pokemon broken.

Gengar gets a move that's the special version of sucker punch.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:00:47 No.20619076 Report

Quoted By: >>20625124

Recover

Seriously that's it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:02:23 No.20619092 Report

Quoted By: >>20619165

>>20619059
That wouldn't make it broken, unstabbed, it already suffers from 4mss on most sets other than 4 attacks

plus it's still frail as shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:03:16 No.20619105 Report

Quoted By: >>20622767 >>20623326

awkward glance
priority +7
status
paralyzes opponents pokemon 100% but drops all of the users stats 6 stages
learned by spinda

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:05:10 No.20619128 Report

Quoted By: >>20619864

A fire type version of stealth rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:07:28 No.20619165 Report

Quoted By: >>20619177

>>20619092
Who said anything it being Dark type? It could be Ghost typed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:08:55 No.20619177 Report

Quoted By: >>20619360

>>20619165
>Gengar gets a move that's the special version of sucker punch.

He said it would be the special equivalent implying it would be Dark.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:12:00 No.20619217 Report

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Light of Ruin

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:16:51 No.20619288 Report

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just give m mence extremespeed

>yfw its ogre

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:21:46 No.20619358 Report

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Just give Mega Pinsir Extremespeed.

>yfw it's ogre

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:21:49 No.20619360 Report

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>>20619177
Well, if it was Ghost typed then it would be bretty gud on ghosts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:25:10 No.20619415 Report

Quoted By: >>20619447 >>20619488 >>20624939

Just give Mega Pinsir Roost.

>yfw it's ogre

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:26:55 No.20619447 Report

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>>20619415
Mmm... no it isn't?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:30:17 No.20619488 Report

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>>20619415
god no pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:34:23 No.20619554 Report

Quoted By: >>20619565 >>20622877

Give Scizor stone edge

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:34:59 No.20619565 Report

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>>20619554
It'd benefit more from rock tomb

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:55:01 No.20619864 Report

Quoted By: >>20623746

>>20619128
THIS JUST IN. SCIZOR AND FERROTHORN HAVE DROPPED TO NU WHILE HEATRAN IS BANNED TO UBERS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 07:33:16 No.20622767 Report

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>>20619105
No. Not even for pretend. That's just terrifying

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 07:37:39 No.20622799 Report

Quoted By: >>20623309 >>20623333 >>20623353 >>20624528

A signature move for Shedinja that is sort of like Giga Drain, but it creates a substitute with that much HP instead of it going to waste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 07:49:31 No.20622877 Report

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>>20619554
Rock Coverage would be great on Scizor, but CB sets beat Talonflame on the switch in with rocks up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 07:52:01 No.20622901 Report

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roost on mega pinsir wouldn't be broken, he's already frail, and wasting a turn to roost up is dangerous if your opponent has a electric/fire type attack coming your way, unless you predict a switch perfectly or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 07:57:27 No.20622938 Report

Quoted By: >>20623007

>Make Badly Poisoned Status also cut Special Attack like Burn does to attack.

I would jizz lasers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 08:04:37 No.20622979 Report

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Not creating but
>Chansey gets WilloWisp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 08:07:52 No.20623007 Report

Quoted By: >>20623027 >>20623049 >>20623160 >>20624783

>>20622938
To be honest, it almost seems fair - physical attackers are vulnerable to both burn and intimidate, but the same risks aren't there for special attackers.
Besides, it makes sense flavour-wise too; I imagine being poisoned makes it pretty hard to concentrate/do whatever it is that gives special attacks oomph.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 08:10:52 No.20623027 Report

Quoted By: >>20623055

>>20623007
>mfw steel special attackers get reason to be used.

Maybe it'll happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 08:14:00 No.20623049 Report

Quoted By: >>20623261

>>20623007
yeah, no.

If you're going to do that at least make a physical chansey so phsyical attackers can truly know what its like to be flat out walled.

Also drop half the distro on swords dance and dragon dance, get used to relying on bulk up (calm mind).

Physical attackers need a nerf. Not the other way around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 08:14:57 No.20623055 Report

Quoted By: >>20625006

>>20623027
>>mfw steel special attackers get reason to be used.
wot
Magnezone is great

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 08:32:59 No.20623160 Report

Quoted By: >>20623261

>>20623007
>what is everything and its mother learning toxic
>what is every special attacker in NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 08:51:34 No.20623261 Report

Quoted By: >>20623316

>>20623160
Actually that's a very good point, I hadn't considered the ridonkulous distribution of toxic.

>>20623049
Also, how do you recommend physical attackers have more checks placed upon them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 08:52:17 No.20623265 Report

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>priority fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 08:54:12 No.20623274 Report

Quoted By: >>20623277 >>20623303

Sableye:
Haunting Chill
100% chance to Freeze

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 08:54:48 No.20623277 Report

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>>20623274

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 08:58:09 No.20623303 Report

Quoted By: >>20623327

>>20623274
There's being reasonably broken, then there's being fucking stupid. You're about half an inch away from "GUIZE, 200 BP +2PRIORITY WITH ANY STATUS CHANCE!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 08:59:26 No.20623309 Report

Quoted By: >>20623331

>>20622799
>giving greninja a 3rd signature move

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:00:31 No.20623316 Report

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>>20623261
avalugg being a better type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:01:32 No.20623326 Report

Quoted By: >>20623361 >>20623368

>>20619105
>Homofuck is fully paralyzed!

>Spinda come back!

I like the thought behind putting a punishment behind it, just use it when you're guaranteed not to be killed(when they setup), but reward would usually outweigh risk, it'd be more balanced if it killed self on use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:01:38 No.20623327 Report

Quoted By: >>20623345 >>20623366 >>20624454 >>20624521

>>20623303
Okay. Let me do better.

Ninjask
Speedy Strike - Bug - 80BP - Physical
Uses speed instead of Attack to calculate power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:02:10 No.20623331 Report

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>>20623309
>reading comprehension

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:02:40 No.20623333 Report

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>>20622799
>It can be called Soul Suck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:04:34 No.20623345 Report

Quoted By: >>20623367

>>20623327
>That flavour
>80BP

Why not just it make the bug version of Electro Ball?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:05:25 No.20623353 Report

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>>20622799
I would like this idea if it could be implemented in a balanced way, actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:06:19 No.20623361 Report

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>>20623326
I don't think you understand why he specified that Spinda would get it.
Contrary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:06:56 No.20623366 Report

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>>20623327
Yes.
That is disgusting, but yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:07:10 No.20623367 Report

Quoted By: >>20623486

>>20623345
Electro Ball takes into consideration the opponents' speed. I'm talking straight-up using the Speed stat instead of the Attack stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:07:12 No.20623368 Report

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>>20623326
there is no punishment. spinda has contrary. stat drops become boosts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:19:32 No.20623431 Report

Quoted By: >>20623443 >>20623505 >>20623809

Grave Reckoning
Special
Ghost-type
100,000 BP
5 PP
Uses the current HP as the stat in place of special attack for damage calculation. The user must recharge the next turn.
Learned only be Shedinja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:21:13 No.20623443 Report

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>>20623431
>anything used mimic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:27:46 No.20623486 Report

Quoted By: >>20623500

>>20623367
Well in that case don't give it 80BP, give it --.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:30:16 No.20623500 Report

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>>20623486
The entire point is that it's fixed BP with Speed used as the damage calculation stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 09:30:58 No.20623505 Report

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>>20623431
Smeargle used sketch!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 10:03:14 No.20623746 Report

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>>20619864
That doesn't make any sense, if Heatran went to ubers Scizor and Ferro would have a field day in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 10:06:55 No.20623792 Report

Quoted By: >>20624821

>Make Toxic a poison type exclusive move
>Make poison cut special Attack by AT LEAST 1/4, 1/2 if feeling generous

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 10:08:24 No.20623809 Report

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>>20623431
>implying 1 special attack with a move that has 100.000 bp isn't already a OHKO for anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 11:08:47 No.20624454 Report

Quoted By: >>20624508

>>20623327
add a recoil damage, and that wouldn't be that broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 11:16:41 No.20624508 Report

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>>20624454
>Basically starts with 233 Attack (level 50)
>Speed Boost grants what is effectively an attack boost at the end of every turn
>Virtually only going to be outsped by priority
>Give it a choice scarf and you get what is effectively both a Choice Scarf and Choice Band
Pretty broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 11:19:28 No.20624521 Report

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>>20623327
add a recoil damage, and that wouldn't be that broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 11:20:12 No.20624528 Report

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>>20622799
It's only available on a special event Shedinja that has Magic Guard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 12:05:15 No.20624783 Report

Quoted By: >>20624802

>>20623007
No.
Physical attacks are stronger and more accurate.
Physical attackers are generally better.
That's why their shat on so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 12:07:21 No.20624802 Report

Quoted By: >>20624830

>>20624783
>stone miss

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 12:09:21 No.20624821 Report

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>>20623792
No.
You're fucking retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 12:10:23 No.20624830 Report

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>>20624802
>Hurr durr a few moves aren't accurate, checkmate
Shut up.

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy Thu 21 Aug 2014 12:18:10 No.20624878 Report

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Everything defensive learns Recover.
Everything offensive learns Shell Smash.

Wow, that was easy!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 12:26:37 No.20624933 Report

Quoted By: >>20625053

A decent bp rock move with 100 accuracy. Maybe with added benifit of confusion.

Or a quick attack like move with rock typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 12:28:25 No.20624939 Report

Quoted By:

>>20619415
>Aerilate Roost
>yfw it's ogre

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 12:39:46 No.20625006 Report

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>>20623055
Sorry, I meant to specify that Steel special Attacks/Attackers will have more of a reason to be used.

Honestly though even with all the defense coming from those tired of the physical attacker dominance special attackers have quite the many coverage options with rarely, if any, drawbacks in use beyond some frailty.

Mega Slowbro will bring the boosting bulky special attacker to the center stage imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 12:47:16 No.20625053 Report

Quoted By:

>>20624933
Speedstone

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 12:56:16 No.20625124 Report

Quoted By: >>20625168

>>20619076
wow is that a fixed design or something ? It really looks better than what I remember

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2014 13:03:07 No.20625168 Report

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>>20625124
Nah, Megaggron is simply perfection. But I'll admit, they could've made him look like anything, and I'd still cherish him regardless.

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