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Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:36:40 No.20690643 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>20690730 >>20690747 >>20690787 >>20691352 >>20691434 >>20691468

So now that it's August we can all agree mega mom's ban was in the right, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:42:13 No.20690730 Report

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>>20690643
Yes, 100%. If I feel I need to take it out with M-Gengar then its fucking broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:43:43 No.20690747 Report

Quoted By: >>20690766 >>20690768 >>20690778 >>20690784

>>20690643
Mega Mon is literally the only ban I supported all gen. I was really fine with the others, though I can see why gengar is gone.

Still don't get luke though. What the hell are people running that CAN'T put a decent sized hole in that thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:45:20 No.20690766 Report

Quoted By: >>20690893

>>20690747
> What the hell are people running that CAN'T put a decent sized hole in that thing?
I've never had a lucario switch into something that could kill it easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:45:25 No.20690768 Report

Quoted By: >>20690780

>>20690747
Smogon bans pokemon based on how much damage they can do to your team not on how much they can take see M gengar M lucario and blaziken

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:46:28 No.20690778 Report

Quoted By: >>20690826 >>20691316

>>20690747
>not supporting the Deoxys, MGengar, MBlaziken, MLuke and Genesect bans

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:47:02 No.20690780 Report

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>>20690768
though is some cases if they have good bulk and good attacking stats (aegislash Mega mawile) they get banned so bulk isn't irrelevant but it doesn't matter when they can OHKO most of the metagame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:47:10 No.20690784 Report

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>>20690747
Damaging it wasn't the hard part, it's the fact that it could run 2 very different sets, and a mixed set. The pokemon that checked luke relied entirely on it's moveset, which you could have very little way of knowing meaning you could waste a poke just to know what you're dealing with. making it extremely possible to sweep late game if Luke's set wasn't revealead

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:47:32 No.20690787 Report

Quoted By: >>20690811

>>20690643
What the fuck are you talking about I'm using it on battle spot right now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:49:55 No.20690811 Report

Quoted By: >>20690936

>>20690787
Consider for one second that maybe there are people who play with a different set of rules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:51:35 No.20690826 Report

Quoted By: >>20690901

>>20690778
I could get over the megas, but fuck no on Gene and especially Deoxys-D. Deo had to be the easiest thing in the world to manage, and it's time on the field was always limited.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:56:08 No.20690893 Report

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>>20690766
Half the time I run karenfag shit, and I still had nothing that Luke could switch in on for free. He could only come in on revenge, and even then, he still had to immediately go on the offensive or get rekt, which means no SD/Nasty Plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:56:41 No.20690901 Report

Quoted By: >>20690967

>>20690826
i loved using gene but it was definitely too good for OU. deos were just cancerous

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 17:58:51 No.20690936 Report

Quoted By: >>20691035

>>20690811
The only time nintendo banned it was the no items special ladder for obvious reasons. Where else can't i use it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:00:44 No.20690967 Report

Quoted By: >>20690995 >>20691337 >>20691447

>>20690901
I think he could stand for a retest when Volcanion comes around. In fact I'd say all the steels could. That thing is gonna wreck house

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:03:41 No.20690995 Report

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>>20690967
even non scarfed variants can easily outspeed and u-turn out into rotom-w which resists both its stabs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:06:34 No.20691035 Report

Quoted By: >>20691061 >>20691079

>>20690936
IIRC there are more multiplayer games played on Showdown than on WiFi. Stop acting like it doesn't count just because it's not official.

Unless you're genuinely ignorant of Smogon and Showdown, in which case I have to wonder how you've even been on /vp/ long enough to work out how to post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:09:11 No.20691061 Report

Quoted By: >>20691095

>>20691035
I've played the battle spot and vgc ladder on showdown and i was allowed to use mega kanga. Where are you coming up with this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:10:34 No.20691079 Report

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>>20691035
You talkin' worldwide? Gonna need some sources chimp.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:11:53 No.20691095 Report

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>>20691061
Please stop feeding this retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:13:51 No.20691115 Report

Quoted By: >>20691323 >>20691407 >>20691594

>>20691095
I'm just confused. Mega Kanga isn't a legendary so why would it ever be banned it's not as strong as mewto, arceus, or zygarde

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:20:48 No.20691180 Report

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No. It gets countered by any ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:33:12 No.20691316 Report

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>>20690778
>implying Mega Blaziken is banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:33:47 No.20691323 Report

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>>20691115
Phione and moltres are so broken right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:35:22 No.20691337 Report

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>>20690967
just ran some calcs for fun

>252+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 324-384 (100 - 118.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

whereas

>252+ SpA Aegislash-Blade Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Volcanion: 147-174 (42.7 - 50.5%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO

volcanion still dies to +2 mawile (what doesn't though) but can take 3 sucker punches and 2 focus punches, always OHKOs mawile with flamethrower even w/out an item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:36:18 No.20691350 Report

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dis cancer. all dis cancer. mega mom was not that hard to fucking counter, stop dickrind haunter and smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:36:19 No.20691352 Report

Quoted By: >>20691364

>>20690643
Its broken but the real problem was people using mega gengar to trap its counters so it had no problem sweeping

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:37:21 No.20691364 Report

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>>20691352
>running two megas on the same team
i know this is bait, but come on man

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:43:03 No.20691407 Report

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>>20691115
You just outed yourself as having aspergers or being underaged.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:45:44 No.20691434 Report

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>>20690643
Everyone was scared of it offensively but few got to experience the super defensive mom healing its whole team while still 2hko'ing you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:47:52 No.20691447 Report

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>>20690967
They're going to have to retest a lot of stuff with the new megas from ORAS coming out, too.

Or keep everything banned and then ban the new ones because they already banned the things that would counter them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:49:50 No.20691468 Report

Quoted By: >>20691510

>>20690643
I'm more for buffs and supports than ban and nerf, but Kanga just kinda sits in BL0 and gets checked easy by other monsters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:53:56 No.20691505 Report

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I can't recall a single good argument anyone has ever made for it to not be banned. It's beyond broken in 6v6 singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 18:54:29 No.20691510 Report

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>>20691468
You do know this shits better than arceus normal in ubers, opening up that arceus to be another thing uour team needs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 19:04:30 No.20691594 Report

Quoted By: >>20691650

>>20691115
>not as strong as zygarde
confirmed retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 19:10:31 No.20691650 Report

Quoted By: >>20691747

>>20691594
Zygarde has two good typings to abuse and its VERY bulky, almost impossible to take down in one hit. Thats why nintendo bans it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 19:20:15 No.20691747 Report

Quoted By: >>20692579

>>20691650
This literally describes Garchomp, except Garchomp is faster and stronger.

I really wish we could go back to a time where bait and stupidity were not indiscernible from each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 20:28:04 No.20692579 Report

Quoted By: >>20692647 >>20692720

>>20691747
Zygarde is better than Garchomp because it has priority and counters xerneas and yveltal with its ability. Oh and can Garchomp get dragon dance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 20:32:51 No.20692647 Report

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>>20692579
It doesn't counter Xerneas, only ever so slightly hinders it.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Aug 2014 20:38:08 No.20692720 Report

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>>20692579
>counters xerneas
please, keep going.

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