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Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:37:30 No.20698548 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>20698561 >>20698562 >>20698583 >>20698608 >>20698759

Why do so many people shit on grass types?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:38:37 No.20698561 Report

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>>20698548
Because they're so used to seeing GF do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:38:40 No.20698562 Report

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>>20698548

Because so many types of pokemon shit on grass type

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:40:18 No.20698583 Report

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>>20698548
Grass is the cutest type by far, but it's one of those types that never really shines unless the specific mon has literally everything going for it. Offensively grass is the worst of the FWG trio. Most older grass mons have Chorophyll as their ability which makes them run together.

It's just underwhelming from a mechanical standpoint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:42:20 No.20698607 Report

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Because Grass is a shit type. I love plenty if grass types (I feel like I'm the only one who picked Bulbasaur), but it's an awful type mechanically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:42:28 No.20698608 Report

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>>20698548
Where else should you shit? The Ground? Or maybe on a Rock? Of course you shit on Grass. Do as the dogs do, you fool.

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:43:16 No.20698614 Report

Quoted By: >>20698679

>>20698608
>Not digging a hole
Uncultured Swine.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:43:50 No.20698621 Report

Quoted By: >>20698646 >>20698656 >>20698753 >>20698819

Superior type chart re-balance incoming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:45:58 No.20698646 Report

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>>20698621
>Nerfing poison so hard
>Superior

Go, and stay go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:47:06 No.20698656 Report

Quoted By: >>20698714

>>20698621
>grass hitting steel neutrally
>electric hitting ghost super effective
this makes no sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:48:51 No.20698679 Report

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>>20698614
>Not picking up after your dog
Uncultured swine

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:49:53 No.20698687 Report

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>>20698608
Don't know about you, but I shit in a bowl of Water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:51:06 No.20698692 Report

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But OP, Grass-types make for great support in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:52:49 No.20698714 Report

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>>20698646
>nerfing it
>I clearly didn't buff it by letting it hit half of all Pokemon SE because there are so many Water-types

>>20698656
Nature reclaims shit pretty easily, bruh. Also, electricity worked pretty well in Ghost Busters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:55:59 No.20698748 Report

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Because Grass is a shit type. Weak to too many things and the only important thing it hits is water, the other ones can be covered pretty easily. Several of my favorite Pokemon are Grass types but Grass types are generally designed as a defensive type, with a focus on things like status ailments, HP draining, and recovery. It worked really well with Ferrothorn because it's fucking steel type and that complements grass well. Mega Venusaur is really good too, but the poison typing helps it a lot as well (in addition to that perfect ability).

The tried making a couple attacking grass types like Sceptile and Liligant and they usually suffer from the same problem: no goddamn moves. There's just not a lot of special moves you can give grass types that "make sense". Sceptile has an okayish physical movepool but it has a really mediocre attack stat. Hell the one time Sceptile was popular in competitive play people used it as a subseeder anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:56:15 No.20698753 Report

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>>20698621
Seriously? First of all, nerfing poison against Psychic and Bug absolutely causes more problems. The water thing I'm sure everyone agrees with, but come the fuck on. Also, steel shouldn't be immune to poison. Just my opinion.
Rock shouldn't do half damage to rock. Rocks are literally some of the best tools to crack open other rocks.
Ghost needs a nerf, that I can potentially agree with, but grass is not the way to go.
Electric doing double damage to ghost is a buff that is so unnecessary and dumb that I'm not even sure where to start.
Finally, fire should keep its fairy resistance. It's about the only useful resistance it has.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 03:57:17 No.20698759 Report

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>>20698548
I like to shit on grass types and your freshly washed cars

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 04:00:29 No.20698779 Report

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>>20698753
How so do those two Offensive and Defensively-terrible types benefiting from a resistance to an uncommon Attacking type cause more problems? I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that I fucking hate Stall and Toxic's a bitch otherwise.

Rock resisting Rock was the result of Rock needing some defensive love. You don't like it? That's fine, suggest another resist for it then.

Nature calms spirits, bruh, plus Grass needs some defensive love.

Electric isn't a terribly common type. What would you suggest hits Ghost hard instead?

I dunno, Fire and Ice resists are pretty nice. Bug was too last gen. I think it's fine as is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 04:01:09 No.20698785 Report

Quoted By: >>20698795

>>20698714
>electricity worked pretty well in Ghost Busters
This is dumb and you know it, if you were going to apply this sort of logic you could make everything weak to everything.
Not that there arn't things that make little sense in the actual game, but you shouldn't pile on top of it, especially with a "rebalancing" that wouldn't make things any better at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 04:02:44 No.20698795 Report

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>>20698785
kek, alright you got me

Ghosts hate light (Electricity), better? And don't mention Dark, because it's "Evil" in Japland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 04:03:41 No.20698799 Report

Quoted By: >>20698829

>>20698779
>How so do those two Offensive and Defensively-terrible types benefiting from a resistance to an uncommon Attacking type cause more problems?
The whole point of making Fairy weak to Steel and Poison was to improve bad attacking types. If you turn around and nerf those two attacking types it's an indirect buff to Fairy types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 04:04:30 No.20698811 Report

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>your Grass bro/sis will never be viable on OU
Thanks Bravest of Birds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 04:05:32 No.20698819 Report

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>>20698621
absolutely disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 04:06:33 No.20698829 Report

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>>20698799
I don't quite see how, given that I gave Poison quite an offensive buff in letting it hit Water SE. The other two types have it much worse off than Poison, so I gave them a resist. This IS about balance.

>>20698819
Explain, kindly.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 04:15:58 No.20698916 Report

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>>20698829
A lot of those changes don't make sense. Electric doesn't need an offensive boost. You made one more type weak to Poison but then two types resistant to it, wow. And you nerfed Flying when only Talonflame and Pinsir need the nerf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2014 04:23:11 No.20699014 Report

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>>20698916
Suggest changes for what will hit Ghost then, because that's the only one I was iffy on when I drew this thing up. It's true I made one type weak in exchange for making two resistant, but that one type holds almost half of all Pokemon species created up until this point. Compared to I don't know how many Bug and Psychic types. I might remove the Bug resist though, if people keep complaining. You wouldn't typically leave a Flying type in on an Ice-type regardless. Both that you mentioned also have access to Flare Blitz and Close Combat, respectively. A lot of Flying-types have alternatives to hit Ice with, actually.

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