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Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 05:37:07 No.20716885 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>20718721 >>20718747 >>20719819 >>20720190 >>20720233 >>20721254

what single change to the type effectiveness chart have a huge effect on battling? pic related

my guess would be water super effective on steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 05:40:25 No.20716933 Report

Quoted By: >>20717012 >>20719380 >>20720204 >>20720319 >>20724154

Ice resisting SOMETHING please ;_;

Ice should resist water and grass at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 05:43:38 No.20716972 Report

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Water doesn't need a buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 05:43:44 No.20716974 Report

Quoted By: >>20717952 >>20718711

>inb4 some mad fairy haters

Well, poison is SE against water, Normal type moves are always have 10% bonus damage. Bugs resist Dark type, and hit for normal damage against fairies but is no longer SE against Dark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 05:46:39 No.20717012 Report

Quoted By: >>20717052 >>20717927 >>20718060

>>20716933

seconded.
Ice should be 2x super effective on water.
Ice should resist grass and water.
Ice should resist fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 05:50:04 No.20717052 Report

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>>20717012
Why fairy?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 07:04:53 No.20717927 Report

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>>20717012
>nerf Grass more

Nope. Check this chart though. Suggested changes with logical reasoning always accepted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 07:08:07 No.20717952 Report

Quoted By: >>20718126 >>20719824

>>20716974
normal should just have 0 offensive resistances, since it has no super effectives and resists nothing, it would be quite fair

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 07:17:12 No.20718060 Report

Quoted By: >>20719171

>>20717012
>Ice should resist grass

Grass is already suffering almost as much as Ice. Not a good idea.

I also have no idea to save the Grass type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 07:24:02 No.20718126 Report

Quoted By: >>20718175

>>20717952

What, and further diminish the defensive capabilities of Steel types, and remove a resistance from Rock that's been there since Gen I, making them less defensively viable in turn?

I do also hope you're not suggesting that Normals get to hit Ghosts for free without Scrappy, Odor Sleuth or Foresight, either, because that is the absolute opposite of fair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 07:29:19 No.20718175 Report

Quoted By: >>20719394

>>20718126
no, just make it so nothing resists normal, if not that, make a type weak to it, right now it's pretty much the worst attacking type and most normal moves only get use with aerilate/pixilate etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 08:33:34 No.20718711 Report

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>>20716974

Hey fuck you.

Bug only hits THREE types for SE damage.

Why would you want to remove one of the few SE matchups it has?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 08:35:04 No.20718721 Report

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>>20716885

>Water is not OP enough

Masuda pls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 08:35:40 No.20718728 Report

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i thought water was SE on steel up until a few months ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 08:39:44 No.20718747 Report

Quoted By: >>20724313 >>20724337

>>20716885

>Gen7
>Scald equivalent for Paralyze and Freeze

Hell, give water a Tri-attack while we're at it. And a OHKO named Drown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 08:45:39 No.20718774 Report

Quoted By: >>20719522

Fire no longer resists fairy but is now super effective against fairy types instead.

Fairy gets a more common weakness and you can give the fairy resistance to another type if you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 08:52:53 No.20718810 Report

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Buff Poison somehow. Feels kinda underwhelming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 10:12:58 No.20719171 Report

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>>20718060
You give it Thick Fat. Mega Venusaur best grass.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 10:15:29 No.20719179 Report

Quoted By: >>20719319

Bug supereffective against fairy instead of resisted by it would be a start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 10:17:27 No.20719190 Report

Quoted By: >>20719341

Poison super effective on Water or Steel would be the biggest. Would put an extreme dent in two of the best defensive typings in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 10:47:27 No.20719319 Report

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>>20719179
At lest do normal damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 10:50:45 No.20719341 Report

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>>20719190
>Poison super effective on Steel
Yeah, THE defensive type shouldn't be defensive!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 10:55:27 No.20719368 Report

Quoted By: >>20719417

Water needs another weakness when compared to Fire and Grass, it's not really a triangle when there's no balance. I'd say Poison fits most and it could probably use another buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 10:58:07 No.20719380 Report

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>>20716933
water erodes ice just as bad as it does rock why would ice resist water?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 10:59:56 No.20719394 Report

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>>20718175
>Worst attacking type
Nigga, what's Poison? What's Grass? What's fucking Dragon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 11:04:08 No.20719417 Report

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>>20719368
>it's not really a triangle when there's no balance
They're balanced against each other which is the whole basis of a triangle. Once you start adding in more points you get other shapes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 11:23:16 No.20719522 Report

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>>20718774
>Fire is SE against Fairy
Fuck no. Fairy only exists to buff the weaker offensive types. Fire is pretty common as an offensive type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 12:09:22 No.20719819 Report

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>>20716885
>water super effective on steel
RIP in peace Aggron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 12:09:42 No.20719824 Report

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>>20717952
>It would be fair
It would be fair if Normal also had no immunities, no weaknesses and was resisted by nothing.
So far it isn't a purely neutral type because it reacts with other types, with only 1 type matchup being in its favour (immune to Ghost).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 12:45:15 No.20720044 Report

Quoted By: >>20720111

IMO, poison should beat bug and ice should resist electric and beat fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 12:57:36 No.20720111 Report

Quoted By: >>20720758

>>20720044
>20720044
Why should ice resist electric and beat fairy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 13:06:48 No.20720190 Report

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>>20716885

Grass immune to Water would fuck up the basic Type triangle and would be a huge blow to Scald spammage.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 13:09:54 No.20720204 Report

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>>20716933
>giving Grass another offensive disadvantage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 13:13:52 No.20720233 Report

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>>20716885
Fairy resists dragon instead of being immune.
The other immunities make sense, this is just retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 13:20:20 No.20720277 Report

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Disregarding typing "logic" and focusing on just balance. Which would you prefer

Fairy is weak to steel, poison, bug, grass, psychic
OR
Fairy is weak to steel, poison, fire

Because having 1 immunity to a previously excellent attacking type, 2 good resistances and only 2 uncommon weaknesses to balance it out is bullshit for something that's also a good attacking type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 13:27:00 No.20720319 Report

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>>20716933
Does Ice resist flying? If not, then that's an obvious one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 13:34:18 No.20720378 Report

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Poison should be super effective on Steel, but Steel is still :^) immune to PSN status.
I think it would be good like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 13:46:07 No.20720463 Report

Quoted By: >>20720677

>No Water type Draco Meteor
>No Water type Flare Blitz
>No Water type never miss moves
>No Water type status infliction
>Most Water mons are mediocre or have stupid/wasted stat distributions
Frankly I don't think Water is OP enough, maybe you Ice babbies need to calm your frozen nipples. I agree with Bug and Dark getting buffs though, they really need it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 14:09:27 No.20720677 Report

Quoted By: >>20724118

>>20720463
>No water type Geomancy, QD, DD, Coil or Minimize
>No water type Spore, WoW, T-Wave, Toxic or Dark Void
>No water type EQ, Zap Cannon with sleep status infliction, Aura Sphere, Bolt Strike, Blue Flare, Aeroblast, Sacred Fire, Oblivion Wing or Spacial Rend
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 14:23:04 No.20720758 Report

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>>20720111
Ice is a very poor electicity conducer so it kind of makes sense (well pure water is also a poor conducer of it, but it's already weak to it so...)
grass should also resist fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 15:33:00 No.20721254 Report

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>>20716885
>water SE against Steel
>Literally making heatran cry
>literally ruining the meta
Worse than hitler

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 19:41:26 No.20724006 Report

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bump doe

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 19:48:46 No.20724118 Report

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>>20720677
>No water type Scald

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 19:52:23 No.20724154 Report

Quoted By: >>20724365

>>20716933
Water melts ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 20:03:55 No.20724313 Report

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>>20718747
Wild already have Scald equivalent for paralysis, it's called Discharge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 20:06:07 No.20724337 Report

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>>20718747
We already have Scald equivalent for paralysis, it's called Discharge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Aug 2014 20:08:37 No.20724365 Report

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>>20724154
ice freezes water

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