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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:31:07 No.20812656 View View Reply Original Report

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How do we save them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:32:51 No.20812683 Report

Quoted By: >>20812741 >>20812832 >>20813389 >>20813734

>>20812656
Megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:32:54 No.20812686 Report

Quoted By: >>20812709

turn off the internet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:33:23 No.20812694 Report

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Give them coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:34:57 No.20812709 Report

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>>20812686
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:36:34 No.20812733 Report

Quoted By: >>20812907 >>20815163 >>20819478

they can all learn each other's moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:36:46 No.20812736 Report

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I tried to run a eeveelution team once, went terrible I won a few battles though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:37:13 No.20812741 Report

Quoted By: >>20812806 >>20813383 >>20815220

>>20812683

jesus christ please NO.
no megas, for ANY OF THEM.
they don't need saving, espeon is arguably one of the best dualscreeners in the game with magicbounce & yawn forcing switches.

sylveon gets hypervoice /calm mind

jolteon is one of the fastest non-megas in the game besides mythicals.

vaporeon is literally a scrub-test.
anything that can't 2hKO it is fucked because of toxic stalling & wish support.

the rest pretty much suck and are outclassed.
glaceon and leafeon especially.
& poor flareon has no moves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:39:03 No.20812767 Report

Quoted By: >>20812806 >>20812835

>>20812656

dont save them, just post cute pics instead ;3

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:40:56 No.20812796 Report

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>>20812656
Things get outclassed, it happens. Just use them and explain to players why you use them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:41:43 No.20812806 Report

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>>20812741
/thread

now do what
>>20812767
says

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:43:05 No.20812826 Report

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>>20812656
Give Espeon wings. A mega evolution should totally make the character more interesting. Not.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:43:26 No.20812832 Report

Quoted By: >>20812935 >>20813759 >>20813849 >>20824881

>>20812683
I'd be ok with that

2036-7795-8110 ashlynn

2036-7795-8110 ashlynn Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:43:42 No.20812835 Report

Quoted By: >>20812912

>>20812767

>getting a card worth like $1 graded

card collectors mang

Yorik

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Yorik Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:49:47 No.20812907 Report

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>>20812733
OP said save them, not totally break them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:50:05 No.20812912 Report

Quoted By: >>20813138

>>20812835

I'm getting my entire team in psa cases like this... i've contracted the autism and its real bad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 00:51:44 No.20812935 Report

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>>20812832
if this happens I will never play pokemon again.
I hope so badly that they never get megas.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:01:35 No.20813076 Report

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>>20812656

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:07:39 No.20813138 Report

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>>20812912
what the fuck dude just put it in a sleeve, it's not going to degrade faster from being in the open

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:14:01 No.20813217 Report

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>>20812656

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:15:47 No.20813243 Report

Quoted By: >>20813294

>>20813138

nope can't.
I want them sealed forever retaining gem mint 10 forever. all 9 and below ratings go into the trash. yes i'm serious. I only want them in japanese also.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:18:31 No.20813294 Report

Quoted By: >>20813321 >>20813324 >>20813459

>>20813243

Jesus christ, Eeveefags. Even the ones who don't want to fuck them are insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:20:36 No.20813321 Report

Quoted By: >>20813771

>>20813294
I don't think anyone really wants to fuck eevees other then shitty trolls

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:20:43 No.20813324 Report

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>>20813294
The worst part is anyone that uses an eevee is automatically lumped in with them. Even if you just like to dabble in Vaporeon or Umbreon once in a while, you're an eeveefag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:24:36 No.20813375 Report

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Let them learn Extreme Speed and Aura Sphere. Those moves are given to popular/cool Pokemon, and I think Eevee is popular enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:24:59 No.20813383 Report

Quoted By: >>20815046 >>20819843

>>20812741
Actually some of them need saving.

Jolteon just needs a bigger movepool as does Leafeon.

Both Glaceon and Flareon need stat rearrangements.

Glaceon was made to be one of those Ice-type tanks and with 105/89 defenses it could pull it off if it wasn't invalidated by it's 65 HP stat. Not to mention it doesn't get very much coverage. The best coverage it gets outside of Shadow Ball is Water Pulse and you have to go all the way back to Gen IV to get that.

Flareon has pretty decent coverage with Superpower and Flare Blitz. There isn't much resists both Fire and Fighting. Only problems with Flareon itself is not enough speed to pull off a FB, not enough Defense to last very long, and not enough HP to get off too many of those FBs before Hara-Kiri'ing itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:25:28 No.20813389 Report

Quoted By: >>20813702

>>20812683
Only the first three deserve them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:27:46 No.20813422 Report

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>>20812656
Eeveeonite

can be placed on any eeveelution and each eeveelution has its own mega form.

simple as that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:28:30 No.20813433 Report

Quoted By: >>20813466

>>20812656
Eeveelutions: All their hidden abilities get retconned to become [type]-ate

Eevee: Gets Normalize which also gets the 30% boost like the other -ates

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:30:52 No.20813459 Report

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>>20813294
LOL'd.
dude its not that big of a deal
its only 6 cards. I'm just doing psa for my bros and thats it. also maybe the corocoro shining mew because its awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:31:26 No.20813466 Report

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>>20813433
Idk man. You'd fuck over Espeon pretty hard and I'm pretty sure Umbreon wouldn't have much use for it.

The only one I see this working for is Flareon since it would be the only Pokemon with a Fire-type priority move. And we all know how hot priority is right now in the metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:35:49 No.20813526 Report

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stop restricting them with the rigid stat spread. Allocate their Equal BST differently for each one. Don't just swap the same stats and call it a Pokemon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:49:40 No.20813679 Report

Quoted By: >>20813764 >>20819015

>vaporeon
fine as is
>jolteon
fine as is
>flareon
give a larger move pool and move some of its sp atk to speed and hp
>umbreon
give it a different HA, crunch, phantom force, and let it learn curse from somewhere other than breeding
>espeon
fine as is, optionally give it some fire coverage
>leafeon
either swap its defense with attack and give it more speed, or leave it as is and give it more hp
>glaceon
fix ice types
>sylveon
fine as it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:51:45 No.20813702 Report

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>>20813389

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:53:30 No.20813734 Report

Quoted By:

>>20812683
Psychic/Dark Mega Espeon when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:54:58 No.20813759 Report

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>>20812832
They look so shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:55:13 No.20813764 Report

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>>20813679
Does Espeon really need Fire coverage?

Ghost/Fairy by itself covers most types, along with STAB.

Only type combo off the top of my head that doesn't get hurt by any of 3 would be Normal/Steel and that type doesn't have a Pokemon representing it yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:56:00 No.20813771 Report

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>>20813321
First day on 4chan?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:57:25 No.20813793 Report

Quoted By: >>20813821

>>20812656
Flareon can't be saved unless they switch its Special Defece and Speed.

Leafeon needs Leech Seed and more coverage, maybe Play Rough or something.

Glaceon is yet another defensive Ice type, something that just can't be done.
Maybe if it switched Attack and Special Attack, it can do some damage with Ice Shard.

The rest are good as they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 01:59:38 No.20813821 Report

Quoted By: >>20820263 >>20821107

>>20813793
Eh, Glaceon only needs a stat recon and a better movepool. It's tied for highest Sp. Atk with Espeon at 165 (don't quote me on that, can't be bother to look it up atm). I think it can be a decent tank, it just needs more HP to pull it off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 02:00:48 No.20813849 Report

Quoted By: >>20814207

>>20812832
>Umbreon with bat wings on its tail

Let me kill myself right now

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 02:05:42 No.20813936 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 02:14:53 No.20814050 Report

Quoted By: >>20814207

>>20812656
>Wanting Eeveelutions to be usable.

Please, kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 02:25:17 No.20814207 Report

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>>20813849
same.
>>20814050
>implying vaporeon sucks

Serena 0490-6021-3909

Serena 0490-6021-3909 Wed 03 Sep 2014 03:41:25 No.20815046 Report

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>>20813383
Glaceon gets Signal Beam too. Might be useful in certain situations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 03:54:20 No.20815163 Report

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>>20812733

Jolteon gets ice beam for ground types. Also taunt is good on a fast poke.

Umbreon gets wil-o-wisp and proceeds to spam foul play and heal with wish/moonlight to beat most physical attackers

Umbreon gets trick room for vgc.

Can't think of anything too broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 04:00:58 No.20815220 Report

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>>20812741
a catch-all Eeveeite wouldn't be too bad. Each eevelution could get much needed stat boosts in different areas, and could get some good recovery/niche abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 14:43:46 No.20819015 Report

Quoted By: >>20819043 >>20826528

>>20813679
unfortunately, changing their stats like that is out of the question as that would "break" one of the themes they had going
all eeveelutions have their stats arranged in:
130, 110, 95, 65, 65, 60

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 14:46:42 No.20819043 Report

Quoted By: >>20819109

>>20819015
I don't think that many people will care that we broke a pattern for the sake of buffing the ones that need it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 14:49:25 No.20819075 Report

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Evolve them into Sylveon, instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 14:52:10 No.20819109 Report

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>>20819043
yeah, I'm just pointing that even if GF were finally decided to fix some pokemon by changing their stats, the eeveelutions that needed it would still had a small probability to be fixed due to that
If they wanted to fix them (wouldn't have my hopes high being GF) the most probable is that they just "boosted" the pattern, with higher numbers, so all of them would get better stats

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 15:42:08 No.20819426 Report

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You put them in specific pairs that allows fusing with DNA splicers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 15:50:55 No.20819478 Report

Quoted By: >>20819533

>>20812733
Pretend all eeveelutions have stats equivilant to espeon, but based on what they are now determines physical or special.

Ex. Flareon has 110 speed and 130 attack, and now knows all the rest of the eevees moves. Same abilities.
Glaceon gets 110 speed and 130 special attack, same deal.

Which eevees rise and fall, and in what way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 15:57:39 No.20819533 Report

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>>20819478
Make the secondary attacking stat the 90 and you have some terrifying mixed attackers.
Sylveon with Flare Blitz
Jolteon with ice beam
Leafeon with ice shard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 16:43:29 No.20819843 Report

Quoted By: >>20819856 >>20820020 >>20821113

>>20813383
how bout this dude (i sometimes do this sorta stuff for myself), what do ya think? i tried not to change their base stat theme too much

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 16:45:18 No.20819856 Report

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>>20819843
forgot to add: water pulse now has 75 base power

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 17:06:18 No.20820020 Report

Quoted By: >>20820033

>>20819843
95 base speed a shit, switch that with whatever is 110.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 17:08:10 No.20820033 Report

Quoted By: >>20820041

>>20820020
for flareon, glaceon and leafeon? glaceon and leafeon do have those abilities tho. and leafeon has sleep powder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 17:09:11 No.20820041 Report

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>>20820033
and, forgot to say, flareon has flame charge.
eh might do it later

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 17:37:22 No.20820263 Report

Quoted By: >>20821043

>>20813821
No, it's an Ice type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 18:51:04 No.20821043 Report

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>>20820263
bump

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 18:56:21 No.20821107 Report

Quoted By: >>20821150

>>20813821
>I think it can be a decent tank, it just needs more HP to pull it off
They went full-retard with the "bulky ice type" thing once and it didn't work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 18:56:47 No.20821113 Report

Quoted By: >>20821131 >>20821148

>>20819843
im sorry but flareon is STILL shit. let it have fucking flare blitz please. and really, guts isn't a terrible ability for it, it just gets no moves to abuse it. It would actually be nice if flareon was fire/normal and could get STAB off of facade. sure it gains a fighting weakness, but it also gains a ghost immunity so it's not really a bad trade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 18:57:57 No.20821131 Report

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>>20821113
>let it have fucking flare blitz please
Do you know how to read? That pic has Flare Blitz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 18:59:14 No.20821148 Report

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>>20821113
It already has Flare Blitz
Guts is a flat 50% increase in attack so yes it does have moves to abuse it with (Flare Blitz)
>dual typed eeveelutions
Fighting-type moves are a million times more common than ghost moves

Flareon's problem is the stat spread. It's that simple

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 18:59:16 No.20821150 Report

Quoted By: >>20821161

>>20821107
actually, avaluggs biggest problem isn't his typing. It's the fact that his special defense is absolute shit, if it was I dunno, base 95 at least then I think Avalugg could have been at least RU material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 19:00:35 No.20821161 Report

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>>20821150
You can literally say the same shit about Blissey
If Avalugg had actual resistances it would make a decent --PHYSICAL-- wall, and just keep it away from special attackers. But it's terrible at that, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Sep 2014 23:56:44 No.20824881 Report

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>>20812832
I like the Espeon but
>ribbons, ribbons everywhere
>bat tail
>it just gets bigger
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Sep 2014 01:49:26 No.20826528 Report

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>>20819015
Stoneon is that you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Sep 2014 10:19:41 No.20830919 Report

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I like Espeon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Sep 2014 10:23:20 No.20830956 Report

Quoted By: >>20831125

>>20812656
I want a dragon type and a flying type, then they can stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Sep 2014 10:43:43 No.20831125 Report

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>>20830956
Wyvreon and Grypheon when?
Also ghost type and fighting type called Obliveon and Champeon.

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