>>20879622>>20879641Mantine's competition as a specially bulky Water if it got a form of recovery would be Milotic and Regenerator Slowking.
Milotic as least weaknesses, Slowking has Regenerator, and Mantine would be EQ immune and have Defog.
>>20886637The Smogon vs. Karen 'debate' exists only on /vp/, and only bleeds through the rest by attaching itself to /vp/ migrants.
>>20887535Sneasel has always been good in any meta where it was allowed post Gen 4. Gen 4 up, it got Weavile, but it still has 115 base Speed, good Attack and fantastic coverage options. It's a Weavile-lite, with the ability to go Eviolite, despite the fact that it was originally designed in Gen 2 to be a self-sufficient single stage mon.
Same case with Gligar (who actually is used in UU).
