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>>21100993
Unburden acrobatics was nerfed this gen thanks to no flying gem, but a mixed set consisting of acrobatics, shadow ball, hp fire and will o wisp for maneuvering around sucker punch is good with weakness policy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:13:45 No.21101021 Report

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>>21101006
>>21101015
It doesn't learn roost

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:13:47 No.21101022 Report

Quoted By: >>21101038 >>21101155 >>21103149

>>21100998
>Fly
>physical Drifblim
>FLY

>>21101003
>Physical Drifblim

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:15:16 No.21101038 Report

Quoted By: >>21101070

>>21101022
Guess what? Physical drifblim would totally work if it had higher offences. STAB acrobatics unburden is an amazing type/move/ability combo and proves OP right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:16:26 No.21101050 Report

Quoted By: >>21101067

>>21101015
It does have a lacking movepool though

At least it has Defog and is capable of Baton Passing Stockpile boosts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:17:25 No.21101067 Report

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>>21101050
>lacking movepool it has a pretty good offensive movepool it just can't use because of shit offences. And it's clearly offensively oriented despite the large hp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:17:37 No.21101070 Report

Quoted By: >>21101101

>>21101038
yeah and guess what, Parasect would totally work if was fast as hell... too bad it isn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:20:15 No.21101099 Report

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What is every slow, defensively oriented Ice type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:20:30 No.21101101 Report

Quoted By: >>21101188

>>21101070
Alright let's run through this again.
>OP asks for pokemon that don't work solely because of stats rather than a shit movepool, typing or ability
>Drifblim has a great offensive ability, good offensive attacking types, and completely usable stabs (one of which syenrgizes perfectly with the extremely offensive ability unburden)
>Driflbim has shit defences and an offensively oriented stat spread despite the large hp
>would be a fantastic sweeper if it simply had higher offences

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:22:20 No.21101133 Report

Quoted By: >>21104551

I guess i'll throw my hat into this one

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:22:31 No.21101139 Report

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Farfetch'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:23:19 No.21101155 Report

Quoted By: >>21101194

>>21101022
Driflblim's atk and sp atk are 10 points apart
Nothing in it's special movepool is better than acrobatics
Don't make it so obvious that you don't know how to use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:25:52 No.21101183 Report

Quoted By: >>21101196

Smeargle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:26:06 No.21101188 Report

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>>21101101
doesn't change the fact that it's lacking on the special offensive side regarding its Flying STABs, the only "decent" thing it gets is Air Cutter and that's freaking sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:26:17 No.21101194 Report

Quoted By: >>21104752

>>21101155
Drifblim has weaknesses to many common attacking types, types which are also often coverage moves rather than stab moves like knock off and hp ice, and also no 4x weaknesses. It has usable attack AND special attack, an ability that doubles its speed when its item is lost, and STAB acrobatics.

Literally the perfect weakness policy user if not for its low offences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:26:18 No.21101196 Report

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>>21101183
Good

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:34:58 No.21101288 Report

Quoted By: >>21101300

It learns explosion, give it aerilate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:36:11 No.21101300 Report

Quoted By: >>21101313

>>21101288
what's the point? Destiny Bond would still be better

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:37:29 No.21101313 Report

Quoted By: >>21101378

>>21101300
Because destiny bond doesn't hit multiple targets and is stopped by taunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:43:57 No.21101378 Report

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>>21101313
uh.. you're right i guess, but i don't play doubles so i can't hide that i don't care

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:45:50 No.21101400 Report

Quoted By: >>21101408 >>21101607

Great typing
Great stats

Fucking awful abilities that synergize with nothing he has.
Awful, outdated movepool that takes no advantage of his abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:46:24 No.21101408 Report

Quoted By: >>21101465

>>21101400
He gets circle throw, that's a fairly exclusive move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:51:45 No.21101465 Report

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>>21101408
my Scarf Pangoro does better... at least on BattleSpot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 22:59:34 No.21101561 Report

Quoted By: >>21106057

>>21100993
>Pokemon needs double STAB to be good.
Hey faggot what's a good dark move to give to my Mega Gyarados?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 23:01:17 No.21101583 Report

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>mfw Drifblim can breed with Magcargo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 23:03:44 No.21101607 Report

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>>21101400
Drain Punch and Aqua Jet when? ;_;

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Sep 2014 23:11:53 No.21101706 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:06:09 No.21103149 Report

Quoted By: >>21103164

>>21101022
>not using Drifblim as your flier in Gen 4
haah waaw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:07:08 No.21103164 Report

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>>21103149
>ingame
>competitive

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:07:24 No.21103167 Report

Quoted By: >>21103377 >>21104558

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:10:14 No.21103195 Report

Quoted By: >>21103212

>>21103164
Nobody said anything about competitive
giving physical moves to a special attacker is dumb even in the main game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:11:51 No.21103212 Report

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>>21103195
OP was clearly talking about competitive since Drifblim stats are okay for an ingame mon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:13:03 No.21103232 Report

Quoted By: >>21103885 >>21106940

>that awesome special movepool
>that useless special attack

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:15:32 No.21103260 Report

Quoted By: >>21103389 >>21103396 >>21103885

It's just SO DAMN SLOW

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:21:51 No.21103344 Report

Quoted By: >>21103557

Only second in shittiest stats ever to Sunflora in my opinion
Drifblim gets a lot of HP, ground immunities, great moves, it's an awesome baton passer

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:24:18 No.21103371 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:24:44 No.21103377 Report

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>>21103167

Every run of a game I catch a Murkrow and evolve it to Honch.

Why can't I quit you Honchkrow you magnificent bastard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:26:03 No.21103389 Report

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>>21103260
I used to have a scarf Golurk for kicks. It actually worked decently well, especially in monotype.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:27:07 No.21103396 Report

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>>21103260
Fuck Metagross, Golurk deserves shift gear

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:42:39 No.21103557 Report

Quoted By: >>21103563 >>21103690

>>21103344
Bug/Flying is still a really shitty type combo.
It probably could've sorta worked if it stayed Bug/Water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:43:24 No.21103563 Report

Quoted By: >>21103690

>>21103557
Here's how we fix Masquerain
>give it a mega
>make the mega water/bug
>give it simple

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:46:33 No.21103595 Report

Quoted By: >>21103616 >>21103795

I use to run restoChesto calm mind unburden Drifblim, but that only worked in gen 4 and to a lesser extent 5. Blim is dead weight in 6, which is a shame cause I really like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:48:03 No.21103616 Report

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>>21103595
I use my Drifblim as a tanky bitch who baton passes Minimize, Stockpile and/or Ghostly Wind.
I love my Hitomi

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 01:56:18 No.21103690 Report

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>>21103557
never have I once seen anyone in a battle use rock type moves out of convenience that wasn't stealth rock
if anything I guess it'd do better in the lower tiers
>>21103563
Masquerain is one of the pokemon that would really appreciate a mega along with dunsparce, corsola, quillfish
I'd love to see the RU and NU get boosts

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 02:06:33 No.21103788 Report

Quoted By: >>21103817

Only held back by it's piss poor speed. I could understand it though. Guts STAB Facade with good speed + Garchomp tier attack would be too good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 02:07:59 No.21103795 Report

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>>21103595
If Unburden simply gave you +2 speed so you could baton pass it PolicyPass Drifblim would be decent

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 02:10:31 No.21103817 Report

Quoted By: >>21104520

>>21103788
Well, Quick Feet can help with that, kinda...
Sucks my favourite bear is so bad, though. That said, this one's the best one, right? T-they're all shit anyway, right?

;m;

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 02:17:29 No.21103885 Report

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>>21103260
This, in Tier Shift this guy is a goddamn beast, but it lacks the stats to be a real threat.

>>21103232
>Hey let's make a slow, bulky physical Grass/Ghost! Then let's make another one except with much better abilities, and then we can split their limited physical STABS between them!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 03:01:16 No.21104436 Report

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>>21100978
Drifblim @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 200 Atk / 252 SpA / 56 Spe
Mild Nature
- Acrobatics
- Shadow Ball
- Endure
- Hidden Power [Fighting]

calced http://www.pokemon-tools.com/xy/en/calc_speed/
Just outspeeds Electrode by 2 points
Hurts a ton, and its got a lot of weaknesses to abuse with WP
Knock Off activates WP by the way.
It also gets sucker punch if you really want priority
Bulky normals can wall it however

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 03:09:47 No.21104520 Report

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>>21103817
Beartic is the most viable of the bears apparently. Its a pretty terrifying Swift Swimmer. Pangoro might be usable if tutors show up in November though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 03:12:40 No.21104551 Report

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>>21101133
typing isn't the best, but goddamn can a substitute cacturne wreck people's shit. I'm praying for a mega with spdef and attack boosts and spiky shield

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 03:13:29 No.21104558 Report

Quoted By: >>21104570 >>21104851

>>21103167

> Excellent offensive typing
> Great STAB moves, expansive movepool
> Workable mixed offensive stats
> Base 71 Speed is perfect for the lower speed tiers
> Huge HP stat that absorbs Brave Bird recoil
> Moxie

I've used Honchkrow to great success in OU. It's a freaking monster once it gets going. What holds it back? The only way you could improve it is by giving it Knock Off.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 03:14:48 No.21104570 Report

Quoted By: >>21104885

>>21104558
>yfw gale wings mega honch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 03:34:52 No.21104752 Report

Quoted By: >>21106192

>>21101194
> types which are also often coverage moves rather than stab moves
252+ Atk Machamp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Drifblim: 442-520 (100 - 117.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
I don't think you understand just how horrible its bulk is. It has a huge hp stat but its defense stats are absolute garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 03:45:41 No.21104851 Report

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>>21104558
The thing that stops it, is that speed tier.It's also frail as fuck and unlike it's edgy cousin it can't kill fairies baring Azu....which neither of then can touch

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 03:50:16 No.21104885 Report

Quoted By: >>21105154

>>21104570

We're trying to live in a society here.

Take your broken birds and leave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 04:23:14 No.21105154 Report

Quoted By: >>21106862

>>21104885
But anon, don't you want to get swept vy fedora crow? Hell the mega would probably have a beard

samuel

samuel Fri 26 Sep 2014 06:25:50 No.21106057 Report

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>>21101561
bite

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 06:46:19 No.21106192 Report

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>>21104752
that's why you have endure on it.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 09:21:50 No.21106852 Report

Quoted By: >>21106958

you know if masquerain was introduced in gen 5, it'd have like 500 bst

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 09:24:37 No.21106862 Report

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>>21105154
>tfw my Honchkrow is a grill named Veronica

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 09:47:18 No.21106940 Report

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>>21103232
still mad about this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 09:49:33 No.21106947 Report

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heliolisk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 09:55:15 No.21106958 Report

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>>21106852
>filename
>>21106852
wot the fuck

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Anonymous Fri 26 Sep 2014 10:44:58 No.21107135 Report

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