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>>21241428
>Spooked
>Ghost like status condition
>Prevents healling, 20% chance to "fully spooked" and not move that turn like paralise
>yall been spooked :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:14:25 No.21241456 Report

Quoted By: >>21241466

Poison lowers speed by 1 stage
Toxic lowers speed by 2 stages

A nigga who be poisoned should be weakened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:14:38 No.21241457 Report

Quoted By: >>21241507

>>21241441
Special attackers are already dampened, no priority (save vaccum wave which can be used by 2 Pokemon).

>>21241428
To answer your question OP, I'm not sure I'd change anything. Maybe decrease the chance of being paralyzed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:16:47 No.21241466 Report

Quoted By: >>21241530

>>21241450
This sounds fucking awesome. Can we do this? Can we have this?

>>21241456
That's a terrible idea. The game instantly centralizes around Toxic (which is learnable by like 80% of Pokemon) and Toxic Spikes also becomes sticky web. If you thought hazards were a problem before, then you were fucking wrong. The whole game becomes about spinners, poison types, spin blockers and steel types. Is that what you want? A world like that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:17:28 No.21241475 Report

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>>21241428
I'd make poison drop special attack the same way burn drops attack. At the moment, poison is a status you almost want because it prevents you getting a more detrimental status like sleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:19:38 No.21241489 Report

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Nerf freeze so that Pokemon thaw when switching out, then give moves a higher chance to freeze. Honestly why is freeze even a thing when its so rare but still RNG bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:19:59 No.21241494 Report

Quoted By: >>21241513

>>21241450
A status that prevents healing sounds fucking awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:21:17 No.21241504 Report

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>>21241428
Freeze Status
>the pokemon has a 50% chance of being "too cold to attack"
>Special Defense is lowered one stage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:21:23 No.21241507 Report

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>>21241457
3

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:21:23 No.21241508 Report

Quoted By: >>21241531

>>21241443
Scald is literally a water variant of Lava Plume, a parallel to Discharge. Just be thankful it doesn't hit all opponents in doubles like they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:21:43 No.21241513 Report

Quoted By: >>21241540

>>21241494
It exists, its called "Heal block"
Preventing healing permanently is just broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:22:08 No.21241517 Report

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Nerf Paralysis.

Maybe change Scald, shit is pretty dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:23:21 No.21241530 Report

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>>21241466
The solution is to make toxic less useful to non-poison types like it should be.
Drop the accuracy for non-poison and make it a regular poison condition

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:23:36 No.21241531 Report

Quoted By: >>21241559

>>21241508
That's the dumb thing.
Most pokemon that can't be burned are weak to water, and no one likes getting burned so switching in it is always a huge risk.

Scald is easily the lowest risk, highest reward button in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:24:57 No.21241540 Report

Quoted By: >>21241561

>>21241513
Theres freezing, which can permanently immobiloze the target, but thats not over powered. Make it a 10-30% chance and most, and it isn't that bad; walls just have to be weary. Your average life orb/choice scarf sweeper could be an easy switch into it, they dont need to recover

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:25:11 No.21241542 Report

Quoted By: >>21241568 >>21241601

Freeze no longer immobilizes, but instead lowers special attack.
Now gains a move similar to scald and thunder wave, only for freezing.

>New status
Fairy-type
Gives a 50% chance to drain HP off of those afflicted when damage is dealt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:26:28 No.21241548 Report

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I'd remove the chance of not moving for paralyze.. Shit like that belongs only to attract.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:28:02 No.21241555 Report

Quoted By: >>21241558

Remove Toxic as a move.

Instead, allow for Poisoned and Badly Poisoned as separate attacks. You can inflict Badly Poisoned status if you:
>use a Poison-type attack on a Poisoned pokemon
>use a specific 'badly poisoned' move on a pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:28:59 No.21241556 Report

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>>21241428
all poison inflicted by poison types becomes toxic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:29:10 No.21241558 Report

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>>21241555
>use a specific 'badly poisoned' move on a pokemon.
To clarify, a move that has a percentage chance of badly poisoned status.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:29:55 No.21241559 Report

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>>21241531
This. Scald is uncompetitive, you are not punished for mispredicting when using it and not rewarded for predicting and switching in a resist when used against you. Its pretty broken in singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:30:02 No.21241561 Report

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>>21241540
> Theres freezing, which can permanently immobiloze the target
It would be if ice moves were common.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:31:12 No.21241568 Report

Quoted By: >>21241601

>>21241542
I agree with this a BILLION times.

The thing i hate most in this game are lucked out freezes.

They should nerf it, lower special attack, speed, what works, as long it doesn't make you stop completely.

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Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:33:10 No.21241583 Report

Quoted By: >>21241987

>people wanting to nerf Special Attacks when it's already shit compared to physical and pink blobs exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:37:44 No.21241601 Report

Quoted By: >>21241640

>>21241542
>>21241568

You can't just have it lower Special Attack. Where's your angle?

>Burned
HP reduction + lower Attack
>Poisoned
HP reduction (progressively worse if Badly Poisoned)
>Paralyzed
Chance of not attacking + lower Speed
>Frozen
Completely immobile

If you want to change Freeze status, you need an angle. Being frozen immobilizes the afflicted pokemon now.

So?
>Frozen
Chance of not attacking + lower Special Attack

Now you have a Special Attack counterpart to Paralyzation that allows you to distribute percentage Freeze status more liberally among Ice moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:47:01 No.21241640 Report

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>>21241601
Personally, I'd have it target Special Defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:48:20 No.21241647 Report

Quoted By: >>21241669 >>21242036

>>21241428
Sleep has a 30% chance of being removed if the pokémon is hit by a damage dealing attack, the current sleep chance of waking up normally is still there.

FRZ gives +1 Def and Sp.Def to the frozen pokémon for the whole duration of the status.

Poison is treated as Badly Poisoned status and lowers Def and Sp.Def by 1 if caused by a poison type pokémon.

Attract lowers Attack and Sp.Attack by 1 for the whole duration of the status.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 15:53:00 No.21241669 Report

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>>21241647
Attract as a proper Status move would be interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 16:16:58 No.21241889 Report

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Crippled, pp usage doubles. In otherwords, it's pressure as a status condition

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 16:28:46 No.21241987 Report

Quoted By: >>21242007

>>21241583
The pink blobs wouldn't be a problem if every special attacker had the moves to boost themselves. Hell, give every special attacker Nasty Plot and see how untreatening the blobs would be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 16:31:46 No.21242007 Report

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>>21241987
Sp.Atk is fine as it is, it's weaker but doesn't receive nerfs i battle. Meanwhile Atk is stronger but you have to deal with burns and intimidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 16:34:00 No.21242022 Report

Quoted By: >>21242055

>>21241428
A burned pokemon attacking another Pokemon with a physical move, has the chance to burn it. A low one.

A frozen Pokemon would have 4x resistance to Ice type moves, no matter what type it is, but would be very unlikely to thaw next turn if attacked by one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 16:35:45 No.21242036 Report

Quoted By: >>21242055

>>21241647
I feel like sound-based moves (other than uproar) should have a chance of waking up a sleeping target

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy Thu 09 Oct 2014 16:35:53 No.21242037 Report

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Thunder Wave has 90% accuracy.
That is all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Oct 2014 16:37:46 No.21242055 Report

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>>21242036
That makes sense too.

>>21242022
I don't think burn means being literally on fire, but more than having burn damage like when you fuckup while cooking.

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