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Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 13:40:15 No.21253249 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21253356 >>21253370 >>21253476 >>21256592 >>21256972 >>21257718 >>21261667 >>21261712

This image is pretty right except for two things. Gen 5 should be reversed and all of the gen 6 mons suck. Greninja is far to high for having shit offensive stats and shit moveset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 13:49:19 No.21253311 Report

Quoted By: >>21253333

>xzard higher than y

is this really true?

what exactly makes it better?
the type change or physical distb or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 13:51:53 No.21253333 Report

Quoted By: >>21253357 >>21253368

>>21253311
Image creator probably plays singles only and considers doubles to be gimmick shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 13:54:19 No.21253351 Report

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I wouldn't have put Samurott or Sceptile so high overall, nor would I have put Torterra so low.

Greninja

Greninja Fri 10 Oct 2014 13:55:08 No.21253356 Report

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>>21253249
Why the fuck is Chesnaught that low?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 13:55:11 No.21253357 Report

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>>21253333
nice quads anon

You're probably right.
I've always thought Y was pretty superior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 13:55:59 No.21253368 Report

Quoted By: >>21264387

>>21253333
If you look at the image closely, while it seems to be based on singles in terms of tiers he doesn't leave out each pokemons specialty.

That being said, I still think his gen 5 opinion is completely wrong even if they're all shitmons.

Greninja is also way to high.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 13:56:10 No.21253370 Report

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>>21253249
This image is wrong as fuck, what are you talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 13:56:48 No.21253378 Report

Quoted By: >>21253389 >>21253396 >>21253414

Emboar is actually RU while meaning it should be above the shitmons like all the gen 2 starters, the other gen 5 starters and Sceptile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 13:58:05 No.21253389 Report

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>>21253378
This.
Can someone fix it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 13:59:03 No.21253396 Report

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>>21253378
>feraligatr
>shitmom

He's at the very least around the middle, high if you count sheer force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:01:37 No.21253414 Report

Quoted By: >>21253450

>>21253378
Using smogon tiers to judge the usefulness of starters that are almost never seen in OU is retarded. I'll agree that he's better than the other gen 5 starters but he does not beat Sceptile or Feraligatr in terms of usefulness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:03:00 No.21253422 Report

Quoted By: >>21253460 >>21264434

Uber
1. Blaziken

OU
2. Char X
3. Greninja
4. Char Y
5. Venusaur

UU
6. Infernape
7. Blastoise
8 Swampert
9. Empoleon
10. Chesnaught

RU
11. Delphox
12. Emboar

NU
13. Feraligatr
14. Sceptile
15. Typhlosion

PU
16. Samurott
17. Torterra
18. Serperior
19. Meganium

Note this list does not factor in unreleased Megas or Abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:06:17 No.21253450 Report

Quoted By: >>21253466 >>21256475

>>21253414
Sceptile and and Feraligatr are not useful in any format.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:07:28 No.21253460 Report

Quoted By: >>21253464 >>21253474 >>21253513

>>21253422
It doesn't factor in anything at all other than how much people use a mon in smogons battle simulator.

In other words its a shit way to discern a mons usefulness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:08:30 No.21253464 Report

Quoted By: >>21253480

>>21253460
Its a really good indicator, if a mon is useful more people will use it hence OverUsed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:08:36 No.21253466 Report

Quoted By: >>21253544

>>21253450
Nice opinions

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:09:31 No.21253474 Report

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>>21253460
u wot m8.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:10:09 No.21253476 Report

Quoted By: >>21253506 >>21253520

>>21253249
>placing torterra so low
>not placing torterra at the top tier starter grass type pokémon
rockslide, earthquake, Synthesis, seed bomb, outrage and ironhead

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:10:19 No.21253480 Report

Quoted By: >>21253492

>>21253464
Yes and the majority of these people copy paste sets from the person who thought it was useful.

No it fucking isn't.

Especially for the lower tiers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:13:13 No.21253492 Report

Quoted By: >>21253570

>>21253480
Its very accurate. When a Pokemon is bad people don't use it, if a Pokemon is good it gets more usage. There isn't some hidden secret set for these lower tier shit mons that just haven't been discovered, I'm sorry but your shitmon bro is bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:14:31 No.21253506 Report

Quoted By: >>21253520 >>21253566 >>21253597

>>21253476
Chesnaught and Venusaur still outclass him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:15:28 No.21253513 Report

Quoted By: >>21253525

>>21253460
kek
go and try feraligatr in OU then
i'm sure you can get it past 1100, buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:16:30 No.21253520 Report

Quoted By: >>21253529 >>21253543

>>21253476
>>21253506
still, it's wayyy better than meganium and even sceptile in the current format

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:16:55 No.21253525 Report

Quoted By: >>21253536

>>21253513
But I have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:17:35 No.21253529 Report

Quoted By: >>21258024

>>21253520
shit, i meant serperior, not sceptile

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:18:38 No.21253536 Report

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>>21253525
good for you i guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:19:15 No.21253543 Report

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>>21253520
Agreeable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:19:20 No.21253544 Report

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>>21253466
Its true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:22:18 No.21253566 Report

Quoted By: >>21253592

>>21253506
chestnaught yes because of the many resistance.
mega venusaur, yes. regular venusaur I think it's evenly matched.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:22:33 No.21253570 Report

Quoted By: >>21256535

>>21253492
>set

What you require is a brain not a better set

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:23:49 No.21253589 Report

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>ur dumb

Nice argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:24:12 No.21253592 Report

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>>21253566
>venusaur
not with chlorophyll

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:25:13 No.21253597 Report

Quoted By: >>21253612

>>21253506
Drain Punch when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:27:20 No.21253612 Report

Quoted By: >>21253620

>>21253597
ORAS though I still don't think that will be enough to make it to OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:28:49 No.21253620 Report

Quoted By: >>21253625

>>21253612
Will giving him an other move be able to launch him to OU then? Or it can't?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:29:22 No.21253625 Report

Quoted By: >>21253639

>>21253620
Knock Off would be great, honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 14:31:48 No.21253639 Report

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>>21253625
How good would it do?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 18:44:58 No.21256475 Report

Quoted By: >>21256546

>>21253450

>implying Gatr bro doesn't rule NU with an iron fist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 18:50:12 No.21256535 Report

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>>21253570
Tell me how to use Serperior in OU. I'll wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 18:51:36 No.21256546 Report

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>>21256475
Alongside a homosexual creampuff and 4-floppy-dongs head

nice shitmon m8

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 18:55:11 No.21256578 Report

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>Torterra
My bro is suffering

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 18:56:42 No.21256592 Report

Quoted By: >>21257887

>>21253249
Nice anti-Greninja bait.

The gen 6 starters are some of the highest tiered starters right now if you disregard megas which severely tilt the scales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 19:13:23 No.21256704 Report

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>Char Y
>King of coverage

That title will always belong to Infernape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 19:33:28 No.21256879 Report

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>tfw having to wait for the Mega for Feraligatr to finally get Sheer Force

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 19:43:31 No.21256972 Report

Quoted By: >>21257816

>>21253249
>Delphox over Serperior

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 20:49:12 No.21257718 Report

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>>21253249
Totters worst? This is completely fucking wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 20:53:44 No.21257781 Report

Quoted By: >>21257789

Remember when blaziken was shit and infernape was God?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 20:54:19 No.21257789 Report

Quoted By: >>21257812

>>21257781
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 20:56:10 No.21257812 Report

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>>21257789
Gen 4.
Everyone ran an Infernape because it was so fast and could run 15 million different sets.
Then the speed boost attacked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 20:56:23 No.21257816 Report

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>>21256972
Serperior is total trash. Delphox is incredibly good in RU. Serperior is shit no matter where it's used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 21:02:22 No.21257887 Report

Quoted By: >>21257943

>>21256592
Where would Chesnaught and Delphox go instead then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 21:06:59 No.21257943 Report

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>>21257887
I don't know what you mean. Chesnaught is solid in UU and Delphox is great in RU. The point is that none of the three are NU shitmons. Without megas, Charizard is NU (maybe even PU), and Blastoise/Venusaur are low RU or high NU since I'm accounting for the power creep and tier shifts from gen 5 -> 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2014 21:14:58 No.21258024 Report

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>>21253529
Nigga I was about to say

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Oct 2014 03:20:18 No.21261667 Report

Quoted By: >>21264320

>>21253249
>tfw my bro torterra is absolute trash
a-at least he still looks cool, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Oct 2014 03:28:18 No.21261712 Report

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>>21253249
fugged up after megasaur
should be empoleon>chesnaught>blastoise
easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Oct 2014 10:26:39 No.21264320 Report

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>>21261667
RIP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Oct 2014 10:37:55 No.21264373 Report

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Do you all even realize Greninja is S ranked in OU singles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Oct 2014 10:41:27 No.21264387 Report

Quoted By: >>21264475

>>21253368
And they want to ban it..

>Meganium
>ahahah

Why am I laughing so much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Oct 2014 10:54:47 No.21264434 Report

Quoted By: >>21264438

>>21253422
Actually Mega Charizard X is S rank in ubers right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Oct 2014 10:56:33 No.21264438 Report

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>>21264434
U wot m8?

Its C rank in Ubers.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 11 Oct 2014 11:02:39 No.21264454 Report

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>tfw ill never be able to run my alternating type reptile starter trio of bros
>2/3 need to Mega in order to be gud
>One needs to finally have its HA released to be decent

Fuck this gay earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Oct 2014 11:06:16 No.21264475 Report

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>>21264387
>they want to ban it
u wot

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