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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:01:37 No.21328268 View View Reply Original Report

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Gyarados now learns Crunch.
FINALLY.
http://pastebin.com/16baa7Yk

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:05:00 No.21328346 Report

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>>21328268
also egg moves
http://pastebin.com/hzFmncB6

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:10:19 No.21328468 Report

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>>21328346
>no priority moves for bagon

thanks gf

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:11:09 No.21328487 Report

Quoted By: >>21328642 >>21333006

http://pastebin.com/hzFmncB6
CORRECT egg moves, ignore the first move for each pokemon in the other list

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:14:34 No.21328549 Report

Quoted By: >>21328609

So does Shiftry learn that move we saw in the trailer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:16:25 No.21328589 Report

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>>21328268
Just when you think GF can't be any more incompetent they go and leave a bunch of info in a demo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:17:05 No.21328609 Report

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>>21328549
>nuzleaf
>Level 28: Leaf Blade

this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:18:15 No.21328625 Report

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>>21328468
Let's wait for the tutor moves to be leaked, there is hope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:18:17 No.21328626 Report

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>>21328468
implying Salamence needs any of that with base 120 speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:18:39 No.21328632 Report

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>>21328268
sharpedo gets poison fang now
>meanwhile pidgey

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:18:49 No.21328634 Report

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>>21328268
Does Pidgeot learn fucking Blizzard?

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:19:10 No.21328642 Report

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>>21328268
>>21328487
>no boomburst or hyper voice for Pidgeot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:19:27 No.21328646 Report

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>>21328634
maybe via MT

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:19:35 No.21328649 Report

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>>21328634
_no

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:19:53 No.21328655 Report

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>>21328268
We have egg moves and level up moves, but what about tutor moves and TM moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:20:39 No.21328675 Report

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>>21328655
soon.jpg
or maybe they're not coded in the demo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:20:58 No.21328682 Report

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>>21328646
I fucking hope so
>>21328649
I'm using an high contrast black theme, spoilers don't work on me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:21:03 No.21328685 Report

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>>21328655
Patience

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:21:04 No.21328686 Report

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>>21328589
>Thinking this would hurt sales or affect them negatively whatsoever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:21:20 No.21328693 Report

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>>21328675
Well I'm assuming that if we could get that from the code, then maybe that info would be evident too.

I hope Pidgeot gets Focus Blast

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:23:03 No.21328731 Report

Quoted By: >>21328753 >>21329113

What would Crunch replace on Gyarados? Ice fang? EQ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:23:09 No.21328737 Report

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>>21328268
Sharpedo with Poison Fang.

A literal fuck you to those who insist that it would get walled to hell and back by Azumarill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:23:32 No.21328746 Report

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>>21328642

Its noisy enough with Uproar!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:23:56 No.21328753 Report

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>>21328731
ice fang obvs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:23:58 No.21328755 Report

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Treecko gets fucking nothing.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:24:09 No.21328762 Report

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it will never get recover

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:25:02 No.21328787 Report

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>>21328762
Still a chance with move tutors :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:26:03 No.21328808 Report

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So is gyrados better than charizard x now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:26:18 No.21328813 Report

Quoted By: >>21328870 >>21328874

moonblast on oddish
that's a thing i guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:26:29 No.21328817 Report

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>>21328268
this helps it get past what in OU? now it's not as susceptible to being walled by...slowbro?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:26:34 No.21328822 Report

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>>21328746
>locking yourself into a base 90 power move that cannot hit ghost-types
Fucking dropped. Hyper Voice/Boomburst could have made it viable. But nope. It'll just be a useless gimmick. Fucking thanks GF.

Yes, I am mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:27:54 No.21328854 Report

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>>21328808
nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:28:49 No.21328870 Report

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>>21328813
Technically anything with Solar Beam should get Moonblast

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:28:58 No.21328874 Report

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>>21328813
It already got Dazzling Gleam, but that is a nice addition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:30:16 No.21328905 Report

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>Accelgor
>Water Shuriken

I know it's a ninja and all but how fuckin useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:30:18 No.21328906 Report

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>>21328822
There's still hope for TMs and MT.

Fingers crossed for Blizzard the very least. This thing absolutelly needs it to deal with shit like Garchomp and Salamance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:30:20 No.21328907 Report

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>>21328870
Oddish is particularly associated with the moon.
>Awakened by moonlight, it roams actively at night. In the day, it stays quietly underground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:32:39 No.21328951 Report

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>>21328686
>Implying that's what i was thinking

I was just saying that it's a pretty dumb move on GF's part to leave all that info in the demo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:33:49 No.21328970 Report

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>>21328905
gotta go faste

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:34:39 No.21328991 Report

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maractus and cacturne get spiky shield
cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:34:47 No.21328995 Report

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Vibrava gets Boomburst through level up apparently, mFlygon with dragonate pls?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:34:54 No.21328998 Report

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>>21328762
Did it seriously get Final Gambit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:35:20 No.21329010 Report

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>>21328905
Mismagius with Mystical Fire, Cacturne and Maractus with Spiky Shield.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:35:21 No.21329012 Report

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>>21328906

>believing they will stick Blizzard on Pigdeot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:35:24 No.21329014 Report

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>>21328951
>hi! I am anon and I don't know how leftover codes work

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:36:31 No.21329040 Report

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>>21328268
>Flygon can now learn Bug Buzz and Boomburst
MEGA FLYGON CONFIRMED

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:37:02 No.21329056 Report

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>>21328762
Shuckle will just have to fall back on being a GOAT randomizer mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:38:32 No.21329089 Report

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>>21329010
Mystical Fire is pretty nice. Saves you from wasting a hidden power slot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:38:50 No.21329096 Report

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>>21328995
Yeah, in another year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:39:51 No.21329113 Report

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>>21328731
EQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:39:53 No.21329116 Report

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>>21329089
It generally prefers HP Fighting, but it is nice enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:39:54 No.21329117 Report

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>>21329040
Oh shit! Bug/Groundwith Sheer Force incoming!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:41:33 No.21329154 Report

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>>21329116
Yeah now you can run HP Fighting and still have fire coverage. It is pretty cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:42:17 No.21329171 Report

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Can we do a list with all the differences?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:42:33 No.21329177 Report

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Huntail gets Coil

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:42:48 No.21329181 Report

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>>21328762
>Final Gambit
>Shuckle

Interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:43:10 No.21329186 Report

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>>21328995
Also learns Earthquake leveling up. Fucking finally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:43:30 No.21329191 Report

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>>21329171
Can we leave it to serebii?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:44:31 No.21329205 Report

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>>21329186
That kind of sucks. But with TMs becoming infinite, it loses its ingame niche as a natural EQ user anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:44:52 No.21329208 Report

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>>21328998

It's had final gambit since xy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:44:56 No.21329211 Report

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>>21329191
If he does it, fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:45:34 No.21329221 Report

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>>21329171
>we
>there's 16000 lines of paste
leave it to serebii or some other autists

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:46:02 No.21329232 Report

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>>21329177

at least you can't use it without using Shell Smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:47:48 No.21329265 Report

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>>21329177
cool. Water type coil user is actually something new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:49:06 No.21329298 Report

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>>21329205
But Earthquake usually isn't obtained until late in the game. I'll take anything learning Earthquake by level 33.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:49:20 No.21329303 Report

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>>21329232
yes you can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:50:25 No.21329325 Report

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>>21329303

meant "can". I meant that you can use it now without it being fucking telegraphed by someone with a fucking brain

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:50:29 No.21329327 Report

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>>21329221
>what is diff
l2unix

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:50:53 No.21329336 Report

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>>21329177
>Coil first turn
>Shell Smash second turn
>rape

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:50:57 No.21329338 Report

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Mismagius gets Mystical Fire

Cacturne and Maractus get Spiky Shield

Accelgor gets Water Shuriken

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:51:15 No.21329343 Report

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>>21329265

Milotic gets Coil too. Physical Mega Milo confirmed!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:51:54 No.21329356 Report

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>>21328905
I wish Accelgor got retyped to Bug/Water. Totally fits its style.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:52:01 No.21329358 Report

Quoted By: >>21329425

>Hoopa-M

Oh baby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:52:09 No.21329361 Report

Quoted By: >>21329382

How are they finding data about this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:52:40 No.21329372 Report

Quoted By: >>21329392

>nothing for Pidgeot

Not fake, is it? Fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:53:17 No.21329382 Report

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>>21329361
don't worry, it's all fake
we are just having fun for a day or two

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:53:26 No.21329390 Report

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>>21329177
>>21329343
>giving things coil
>still not giving Seviper Gunk Shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:53:32 No.21329392 Report

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>>21329372
Move Tutors still in the air

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:53:38 No.21329395 Report

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wow, its fucking nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:54:00 No.21329405 Report

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A lot of things that had Play Rough, Knock Off and Iron Head as egg/tutor moves now have them as level ups.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:54:58 No.21329425 Report

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>>21329358
>Level 1: Hyperspace Fury
Oh god wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:55:15 No.21329431 Report

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>>21329392

If they were gonna give it something good it would probably be in egg moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:56:26 No.21329454 Report

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>>21329425
Ultra powerful Feint Attack apparently

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:57:34 No.21329478 Report

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>Nothing for Pangoro
Why must gamefreak make the best looking pokemon so useless?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:58:08 No.21329486 Report

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Joltik gets Camouflage
I don't even

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:59:29 No.21329510 Report

Quoted By: >>21329538 >>21329740

>>21329478
Move tutors are coming.

Right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 02:59:40 No.21329514 Report

Quoted By: >>21329576

Did Dunsparce or Kecleon get anything interesting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:00:32 No.21329538 Report

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>>21329510
They are confirmed to return

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:01:44 No.21329558 Report

Quoted By: >>21329595

c'monnnn tutors

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:02:02 No.21329565 Report

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>>21329538
We don't know what moves they will have though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:02:52 No.21329576 Report

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>>21329514
Keckleon got camuflage by leveling up
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:03:01 No.21329581 Report

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>>21329478
A fitting punishment for hogging all the Parting Shots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:03:58 No.21329595 Report

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>>21329558
Slowbro and Slowking have some of the best movepools of any Pokemon. I don't know what you could possibly want for it.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:07:28 No.21329651 Report

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Um guys, where's the new move

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:08:34 No.21329668 Report

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>>21329581
It's a good move, but not good enough to justify using it.

Parting Shot is all it has at this point.
I wish it just had Technician or something. It has enough low BP moves to consider it. Storm Throw would be crazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:09:13 No.21329678 Report

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Zangoose gained hone claws on level up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:09:35 No.21329680 Report

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>>21329651
It probably learns it from a special move tutor, like meloetta and keldeo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:09:39 No.21329681 Report

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>>21329651
fake confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:10:36 No.21329699 Report

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THANK YOU ORAS, THANK YOU HACKERS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:11:02 No.21329710 Report

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>>21329651
its probably there somewhere. It's already confirmed anyway so best not to even worry about it. it'll probably some type of move it will learn in the story to beat kyogre/groudon type bullshit

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:11:15 No.21329715 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:12:11 No.21329740 Report

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>>21329478
>>21329510

>only new punch it gets will be Shadow Punch
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:13:41 No.21329770 Report

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>>21329715

it should have Technician

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:14:34 No.21329789 Report

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>>21328991
MUH DICK

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:16:02 No.21329820 Report

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>>21329694

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:20:19 No.21329893 Report

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>>21328468
you are cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:24:18 No.21329973 Report

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>Gastly
>Fire Punch
>Ice Punch
>Thunder Punch

Heh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:33:58 No.21330169 Report

Quoted By: >>21330216

>Yanma/Yanmega still don't get level up Boomburst despite having supersonic wings

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:36:26 No.21330216 Report

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>>21330169
Yanmega's time has yet to come.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:42:30 No.21330326 Report

Quoted By: >>21330456 >>21330545

>Metagross
>No Swords Dance
>No Shift Gear
>No Bulk Up
>Nothing
>Can't kill M Salamence with Ice Punch
I hate game freak so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:48:08 No.21330422 Report

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was barrier always there for mudkip?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:49:38 No.21330456 Report

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>>21330326
show me a calc showing that an ice punch off of a metagross can't kill a salamence

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:50:49 No.21330479 Report

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numel growth. interesting also frightening

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:53:47 No.21330545 Report

Quoted By: >>21330621 >>21330660

>>21330326
>>21330456
it can
-1 252+ Atk Tough Claws Metagross Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 396-468 (119.2 - 140.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 03:58:47 No.21330621 Report

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>>21330545
>not 130 base def salamence
>using adamant
>using 0def salamence shit wifi evs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:02:03 No.21330649 Report

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Earth Power Diancie sounds fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:02:17 No.21330653 Report

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>>21328268
>still learns Hyper Beam
>got Giga Impact
not that I give a fuck since those moves are shit anyway, but come on gf

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:02:59 No.21330660 Report

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>>21330545
>not factoring Clear Body
>factors Intimidate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:11:21 No.21330744 Report

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>>21330660
252 Atk Tough Claws Metagross Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 360-424 (108.4 - 127.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>21330621
252 Atk Tough Claws Metagross Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Salamence: 296-352 (89.1 - 106%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:13:03 No.21330763 Report

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metagross better gets a GOOD boost move or I fucking kill masuda :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:16:55 No.21330811 Report

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>>21330744
don't forget -1 because of Intimidate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:19:32 No.21330847 Report

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>>21330744
dude, you can't calculate... use M,metagross base stats 252att ice punch vs m-salamence 130base def without intimidate, its about 80-90% even without def evs (lvl 100 for sure)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:19:38 No.21330849 Report

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>>21330811
>>21330660

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:23:06 No.21330919 Report

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>>21330847
you're forgetting tough claws

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:25:57 No.21330976 Report

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>>21330919
no he doesnt

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:27:08 No.21330994 Report

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>>21330847
you teach me nerd

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:30:05 No.21331043 Report

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>>21328468
>WHAT? M-SALAMENCE WON'T BE BANNED FROM UBERS? FUCKING GAMEFREAK JESUS FUCKING CHRIQ3480FM3 THQ3T OQ3HT5 34.T Q3YT4./

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:31:09 No.21331072 Report

Quoted By: >>21337386

>>21329181
>Primal Shuckle
>all 100 points go to HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 04:33:15 No.21331109 Report

Quoted By: >>21336129

lmao you guys...

252+ Atk Tough Claws Metagross Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Salamence: 340-404 (102.4 - 121.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
I bet you didnt saw the -1 from intimidate because you changed it to tough claw.
it will always kill without a att drop, except its a good evd salamence with hp/def to survive it ( i will do so lol salamence>m rayquaza)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 06:51:53 No.21332896 Report

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>>21329478
The time has come

>Knock Off
>Drain Punch
>Superpower
>Low Kick
>Elemental Punches
>Gunk Shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 07:01:36 No.21333006 Report

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>>21328487
no extreme speed for buffaolant. let's wait for tutors

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 07:04:54 No.21333043 Report

Quoted By: >>21333080

http://pastebin.com/vJX9K9ni

hopefully but probably not complete list of new level-up moves for those who don't want to wade through all that shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 07:08:06 No.21333080 Report

Quoted By: >>21333122 >>21333145

>>21333043
>Water Shuriken Accelgor
>Spiky Shield Cacturne & Maractus
>Mystical Fire Mismagius
Jesus christ, Gamefreak. You couldn't even keep them signature moves for a single fucking generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 07:12:34 No.21333122 Report

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>>21333080
Priority water move on insane fast pokemon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 07:16:42 No.21333145 Report

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>>21333080
Greninja still keeps Mat Block :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 07:51:21 No.21333462 Report

Quoted By: >>21333493

Flygon might not have gotten a mega but...
>earthquake at level lv.33
>bug buzz
>boomburst
>dragon claw finally back at level 45
>dragon rush
can't wait to use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 07:55:53 No.21333493 Report

Quoted By: >>21333592

>>21333462
>non stab bug buzz
>80bp d claw
>dragon miss
it's shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 07:59:20 No.21333521 Report

Quoted By: >>21333895

>>21328268
The data for XY megastones are also there so I guess we can use them maybe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:09:03 No.21333592 Report

Quoted By: >>21333608

>>21333493
any additional coverage option is nice in my book, plus it fits thematically

dragon claw is gr8 in-game, don't know what are you talking about, plus it is finally learnable at lv.45, a spot which used to be hogged by fucking dragon tail in gen V and VI

dragon rush is a noice bonus

the biggest boost is still dat early earthquake though

flygon will be the go to dragon type in ORAS imho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:11:13 No.21333608 Report

Quoted By: >>21333645

>>21333592
after a ddance m-altaria can outspeed and KO all dragons

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:12:54 No.21333623 Report

Quoted By: >>21333654

>>21329390
Gunk Shot's a tutor move m8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:17:13 No.21333645 Report

Quoted By: >>21333689

>>21333608
but altaria is fucking shit in-game, which is what i was talking about, unless it's mega stone becomes available before the league

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:18:43 No.21333654 Report

Quoted By:

>>21333623
Which seviper doesn't get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:22:56 No.21333689 Report

Quoted By: >>21333701

>>21333645
with ddance it can sweep literally every gym + e4
it's loads more useful than flygon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:24:05 No.21333701 Report

Quoted By: >>21333722 >>21337100

>>21333689
okay, its obvious you have never used altaria in RSE

opinion discarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:24:34 No.21333704 Report

Quoted By: >>21333724

>>21328755

Welcome to every generation since 3, anon. Enjoy your Lightning Rod.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:27:20 No.21333722 Report

Quoted By: >>21333865

>>21333701
i have, but thanks for highlighting the fact that flygonfags disregard facts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:28:07 No.21333724 Report

Quoted By:

>>21328755
>>21333704
giga drain is learnable at lv.22 now

its pretty nice boost for in-game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:46:10 No.21333865 Report

Quoted By: >>21333924

>>21333722
>facts
>uses competitive logic to judge pokemon performance in-game ("muh can beat other dragons after DD")
>ignores the absolutely shitty offensive stats and movepool (not taking mega into consideration, which most likely won't be available pre E4)
>ignores the fact that having to set up to be able to hurt things automatically puts altaria low in the viability list (just ask serperior)
sure thing buddy

i'd argue some more but after finishing over 30 playthroughs of RSE i realized you have exactly 0 arguments to be able to convince me otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:49:19 No.21333895 Report

Quoted By:

>>21333521
Of course you will. You wont be able to trad eover new mega stones to X and Y! But the old ones will still be able to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:53:41 No.21333924 Report

Quoted By:

>>21333865
>shitty offensive stats
we're talking about in-game you nimrod.
the ai can't stop a setup sweep
one ddance puts your attack miles ahead of flygons

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 08:59:02 No.21333960 Report

Quoted By:

>>21328762
I know that feel brah

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 12:46:27 No.21336129 Report

Quoted By:

>>21331109
>Adamant
nah

252 Atk Tough Claws Metagross Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 380-448 (96.4 - 113.7%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

But no fucking mence is gonna run max hp unless it's defensive in which case they're not going to use mega to keep the intimidate.

40% !//v.13zk5M

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40% !//v.13zk5M Thu 16 Oct 2014 13:34:06 No.21336609 Report

Quoted By: >>21341792

>Milotic, Huntail, Gorebyss
>Coil

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 13:35:35 No.21336619 Report

Quoted By: >>21340319

>>21328625
Tutor moves already leaked. They're the same as BW2 for the most part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 13:41:26 No.21336680 Report

Quoted By:

>Lopunny gets HJK at 66

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 13:43:50 No.21336705 Report

Quoted By:

>vibrava gets boomburst
>pidgeot doesn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 13:45:35 No.21336716 Report

Quoted By: >>21336765

Why the fuck did they give Boomburst to a shitmon like Flygon and not to pokemon that actually deserves it like Gardevoir and Pyroar?

Gamefreak literally has no idea what the fuck they're doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 13:51:16 No.21336765 Report

Quoted By: >>21336771

>>21336716
>flygon
>shitmon
>lists pyroar
>b-but muh pixuleight

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 13:51:56 No.21336771 Report

Quoted By: >>21336778 >>21336824

>>21336765
Pyroar is more viable than Flygon, deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 13:53:19 No.21336778 Report

Quoted By:

>>21336771
xD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 13:58:56 No.21336824 Report

Quoted By: >>21336831 >>21336866 >>21336873

>>21336771

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:00:08 No.21336831 Report

Quoted By: >>21336853 >>21336863

>>21336824
>Smogon
You're retarded. VGC is a superior format, but I guess Flygonfags like you just can't understand that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:02:07 No.21336853 Report

Quoted By: >>21336861

>>21336831
>VGC is a superior format

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:03:19 No.21336861 Report

Quoted By: >>21336884 >>21336889 >>21336907 >>21337585

>>21336853
It's superior for two reasons.
>Pokemon is balanced around doubles
>VGC doesn't have retarded nonsense bans

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:03:31 No.21336863 Report

Quoted By: >>21336882

>>21336831
then specify that you are talking about VGC, asshat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:03:59 No.21336866 Report

Quoted By:

>>21336824
e b i n

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:04:36 No.21336873 Report

Quoted By:

>>21336824
Tier =/= viability

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:05:11 No.21336882 Report

Quoted By: >>21336901

>>21336863
I shouldn't have to. VGC is the standard after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:05:16 No.21336884 Report

Quoted By: >>21336898

>>21336861
>Pokemon is balanced around doubles
keep telling that to yourself, singles is what the entire in-game is based on and it's also the most popular competitive format in both Smogon and Battle Spot by a long margin

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:05:38 No.21336889 Report

Quoted By:

>>21336861
Those are my two favorite memes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:06:14 No.21336898 Report

Quoted By: >>21336922 >>21336923

>>21336884
Are you that dumb? The game is explicitly balanced around doubles. Singles being popular has literally nothing to do with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:06:18 No.21336901 Report

Quoted By: >>21336938

>>21336882
>standard
so standard that it doesn't even have its own ladder in the game? go away you delusional fanboy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:06:41 No.21336907 Report

Quoted By: >>21336924

>>21336861
Anything on the box art is banned, events are banned. How is this not retarded nonsense again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:07:49 No.21336922 Report

Quoted By: >>21336987

>>21336898
>The game is explicitly balanced around doubles
[citation needed]

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:07:50 No.21336923 Report

Quoted By: >>21336973 >>21336987

>>21336898
>The game is explicitly balanced around doubles.
You keep saying that, maybe some day it will become true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:07:58 No.21336924 Report

Quoted By: >>21336938 >>21337399

>>21336907
>box art
Too powerful
>events
not everyone can have one.

It makes perfect sense to ban them, while it's nonsense to ban Blaziken, Moody and Swagger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:08:53 No.21336938 Report

Quoted By: >>21336960 >>21336969

>>21336901
b-but gamefreak uses it, so it must be perfect

>>21336924
>phione banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:10:01 No.21336960 Report

Quoted By: >>21336986

>>21336938
Phione is an event. You can't get Manaphy except with a different game not part of the main series, and you can only get Phione from a Manaphy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:10:26 No.21336969 Report

Quoted By:

>>21336938
Are
You
Retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:10:36 No.21336973 Report

Quoted By:

>>21336923
It is, you piece of shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:11:31 No.21336986 Report

Quoted By: >>21337001

>>21336960
>and you can only get Phione from a Manaphy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:11:35 No.21336987 Report

Quoted By: >>21337000

>>21336922
>>21336923
>abilities and moves designed specifically for doubles does not exist!
If you don't understand that that's proof that the game is exclusively balanced around doubles, I don't know what will convince you otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:11:46 No.21336991 Report

Quoted By: >>21337026

>>21328755
Dual Chop and Quick Guard are the only notable additions.

Well, it's fucking something. Could've been much worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:12:32 No.21337000 Report

Quoted By:

>>21336987
>things exist for a game mode
>that means it's the only thing anyone should play ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:12:41 No.21337001 Report

Quoted By: >>21337017

>>21336986
Now you're just obviously baiting. I bit on earlier thinking that you could just be genuinely mistaken, but now the truth is out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:13:19 No.21337011 Report

Quoted By:

>smogon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:13:35 No.21337017 Report

Quoted By: >>21337040 >>21337055

>>21337001
>he doesn't know you can breed phione with ditto

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:14:40 No.21337026 Report

Quoted By:

>>21336991
Quick Guard could come in handy against anything with Ice Shard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:15:22 No.21337040 Report

Quoted By: >>21337051

>>21337017
And where are you gonna get the Phione to breed with that Ditto? Oh wait, a Manaphy is needed to create the Phione you need to breed with that Ditto to create your other Phiones.

That makes Phione an event pokemon. Deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:16:37 No.21337051 Report

Quoted By: >>21337063 >>21337070 >>21337082

>>21337040
Where are you gonna get a Zoroark pre-BW?
Where are you going to get version exclusives?
Where are you going to get Gengar or Alakazam?
I forgot that trading literally doesn't exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:16:59 No.21337055 Report

Quoted By: >>21337081

>>21337017
ARE
YOU
RETARDED

>tumblr gif
Of course

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:17:38 No.21337063 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337051
*BW2

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:18:23 No.21337070 Report

Quoted By: >>21337081

>>21337051
>Flygonfags are this retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:19:22 No.21337081 Report

Quoted By: >>21337106

>>21337055
I'm not the one who doesn't know about breeding.
Take Masuda's cock out of your mouth. The lack of oxygen is killing brain cells.

>>21337070
>YOU CAN'T BREED PHIONE, IT'S UNOBTAINABLE
Sure you can. Here are some examples of other unobtainable Pokemon.
>THOSE DON'T COUNT! FUCKING FLYGONFAGS!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:19:25 No.21337082 Report

Quoted By: >>21337096

>>21337051
I guess VGC should just unban Genesect and all of the other event pokemon because you can get them from trading!

That's exactly how you sound like, you imbecile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:20:53 No.21337096 Report

Quoted By: >>21337126

>>21337082
There are a limited amount of non-cloned Genesect. You can have an unlimited supply of legitimate Phione.
I guess we should ban version exclusives because I can't get Clawitzer in Y.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:21:21 No.21337100 Report

Quoted By:

>>21333701
Dragon/Flying and Dragon/Ground were mixed in gen 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:22:05 No.21337106 Report

Quoted By: >>21337114

>>21337081
YOU FUCKING RETARD
It's not the same as smogon bans, those are banned because they are event mons, doesn't matter if you can get them from trading.
Smogon bans retarded shit because M-MUH COMPETITIVE GAME
Jesus christ why are you even comparing these two things?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:23:03 No.21337114 Report

Quoted By: >>21337122

>>21337106
>it's retarded because i said so

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:23:22 No.21337119 Report

Quoted By: >>21337143

>Milotic gets Coil and Disarming Voice
>Disarming Voice is fairy type

Awww FUCK YEAH! So ready for that mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:24:04 No.21337122 Report

Quoted By: >>21337138

>>21337114
You can think it's not retarded, but that wasn't even the point of the post.
>Jesus christ why are you even comparing these two things?

I guess you really are retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:24:23 No.21337126 Report

Quoted By: >>21337138

>>21337096
Phione is bred from an event pokemon, so that makes it an event pokemon and thus is rightly banned.

How many times do we all have to beat it into your thick skull before you understand it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:25:40 No.21337138 Report

Quoted By: >>21337145 >>21337150

>>21337122
You can't defend one thing for being retarded, while bashing another.

>>21337126
Phione is bred from Phione.
We should also ban event-exclusive Pokemon like Ice Punch Tyranitar, right? Events = overpowered

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:26:11 No.21337143 Report

Quoted By: >>21337155 >>21337166 >>21337194

>>21337119
No more room in coding for megas. Unless GF kept coding out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:26:14 No.21337145 Report

Quoted By: >>21337164

>>21337138
>event pokemon is bred from event pokemon
So?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:26:46 No.21337150 Report

Quoted By: >>21337164

>>21337138
>You can't defend one thing for being retarded, while bashing another.
...what?
What the fuck does that have to do with anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:27:16 No.21337155 Report

Quoted By: >>21337194

>>21337143
Mega Hoopa exists, and it's not publicly known yet.

So there's no more megas. That's a fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:28:00 No.21337164 Report

Quoted By: >>21337225

>>21337145
Events are restricted because they are potentially unobtainable.
Phione is as obtainable as any version-exclusive, pre-gen 6 mon, or trade evolution.

>>21337150
Praising Gamefreak for nonsensical bans while demonizing Smogon for the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:28:13 No.21337166 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337143
And thus we discover their plans to make yet another two games useless upon the release of new ones.

Bravo GF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:30:58 No.21337194 Report

Quoted By: >>21337461

>>21337143
>>21337155
>Doesn't know that devs remove data for demos
>thinks what is clearly an alt form is a mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:33:39 No.21337223 Report

Quoted By: >>21337246 >>21337259

Maybe I'm mistaken, but wasn't Volcarona basically an event pokemon prior to x and y? Was it ever banned in any way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:34:10 No.21337225 Report

Quoted By: >>21337259

>>21337164
>nonsensical bans
>bans
>plural
We already explained how banning phione makes sense, but okay, let's pretend it doesn't.
Do you really think banning phione makes as much as an impact as banning a fuck ton of relevant shit on the meta such a moody, swagger, nerfing baton pass, etc? And every overpowered mon going to ubers just because people are literally so fucking retarded that they can't adapt to the meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:35:47 No.21337246 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337223
You are mistaken. In BW found both an egg after the sixth gym and a wild lv70 one after the E4.

Also this Phione thing doesn't make sense. Just because Manaphy is an event mon, it doesn't mean it doesn't count. Zoroark was an event too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:37:10 No.21337259 Report

Quoted By: >>21337285

>>21337223
It was catchable ingame.

>>21337225
Smogon is trying to make a game that isn't a pain in the ass to play against people spamming double team, getting behind a sub, and passing boosts all around. Gamefreak doesn't give a shit about anything broken. Literally the only reason 4v4 Doubles is used is because they don't want tournaments being 80+ turn stallfests. They want players in and out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:38:41 No.21337281 Report

Quoted By:

>>21328468
>120speed
>dragon dance

Why would you even want such a thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:39:13 No.21337285 Report

Quoted By: >>21337306

>>21337259
>Literally the only reason 4v4 Doubles is used is because they don't want tournaments being 80+ turn stallfests.
Thank you for proving that the game is balanced for doubles.
The game is such a shitfest in singles that the only way to play it competitively is doing all that retarded shit smogon did, and doubles works perfectly without banning anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:40:59 No.21337306 Report

Quoted By: >>21337332

>>21337285
>Thank you for proving that the game is balanced for doubles.
It's not even balanced for doubles. Nothing about Pokemon is balanced. That's just the fastest mode they use that still plays sorta like Pokemon should.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:42:23 No.21337332 Report

Quoted By: >>21337363

>>21337306
We are not talking about balanced in terms of shitmons not existing and every mon being equal in power and shit.
We are talking about balanced as in competitive and actually fucking playable, unlike 6v6 non-smogon singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:45:26 No.21337363 Report

Quoted By: >>21337381

>>21337332
And the game still isn't balanced for doubles. Doubles just so happens to be less broken with vanilla settings.
And you still have shit like item clause and only 2 backup Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:47:07 No.21337381 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337363
>less broken
You mean actually fucking playable.
There is a big step from a retarded shitfest to actually playable to the point of being ready to be played competitively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:47:10 No.21337382 Report

Quoted By: >>21337408

>pokemon is designed for doubles
>99% of in game battles are single
b-but muh meta.You know why it's called METAgame?Because it's something different, outside the original game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:47:18 No.21337386 Report

Quoted By:

>>21331072
oh fuck. would be pretty fucking based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:48:04 No.21337399 Report

Quoted By:

>>21336924
>>Too powerful
>Zygarde
>Kyurem-B
>The three dogs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:49:02 No.21337408 Report

Quoted By: >>21337418 >>21337444

>>21337382
Do you actually believe ingame battles need to be balanced.

Are you serious

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:49:23 No.21337417 Report

Quoted By:

>quick guard
>lightningrod

Could mega sceptile be worth using in vgc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:49:40 No.21337418 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337408
Yeah, let's just give 100% accurate OHKO moves and make all the enemies have Specs Weedle. xDD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:51:26 No.21337444 Report

Quoted By: >>21337481

>>21337408
>Do you actually believe ingame battles need to be balanced.
what does that have to do with anything?If the game is made of 99% of single battles, it's pretty clear wich format the game is designe around

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:52:57 No.21337461 Report

Quoted By: >>21337505 >>21337517 >>21337567 >>21338226

>>21337194
>devs remove data for demos
Yet they apparently kept so much that the whole fucking game can be datamined to hell and back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:54:26 No.21337481 Report

Quoted By: >>21337509

>>21337444
>what does that have to do with anything?
Exactly.
What does the ingame have to do with online battles?
Did you actually try competitive vanilla singles online? It's unplayable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:56:02 No.21337502 Report

Quoted By:

>>21330811
>Clear body
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:56:16 No.21337505 Report

Quoted By: >>21337533

>>21337461
There's 250MB of data in ORAS Demo. Not the 1GB+ that's going to be in the full game.
It's not the full game, you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:56:37 No.21337509 Report

Quoted By: >>21337519

>>21337481
>What does the ingame have to do with online battles?
it's more the opposite.The game is designed around singles,the META game is another thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:57:37 No.21337517 Report

Quoted By: >>21337613

>>21337461
We know all the gym leaders/e4 teams levels too?And postagame?I dont think they'd putt all the date in the demos

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:57:51 No.21337519 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337509
The ingame is designed around singles
The online battles are designed around doubles

Why are we even disagreeing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 14:58:36 No.21337533 Report

Quoted By: >>21337594

>>21337505
I don't genuinely believe that's everything we're getting, but maps and other 3D models/textures can add up. I assume there's some cutscenes, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 15:01:08 No.21337567 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337461
Where's the text dump of the script of the whole thing, then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 15:02:53 No.21337585 Report

Quoted By:

>>21336861
>>VGC doesn't have retarded nonsense bans
Phione.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 15:03:51 No.21337594 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337533
Yeah, undoubtedly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 15:05:41 No.21337613 Report

Quoted By: >>21337798

>>21337517
Keep up with the times.
http://pastebin.com/dXJ5fyEm

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 15:18:52 No.21337798 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337613
Holy FUCK. Dem levels.
Greatest of all Time Pokémon games.
Based Team B.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 15:21:00 No.21337830 Report

Quoted By: >>21337853 >>21337890 >>21337891 >>21338546

Why are VGC fags so fucking obnoxious and annoying?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 15:22:50 No.21337853 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337830
Because there are obnoxious people in each side, don't be fucking delusional

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 15:25:07 No.21337890 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337830
They have to justify their breeding time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 15:25:13 No.21337891 Report

Quoted By: >>21338404

>>21337830
Half of the time it's not even VGC players, it's mainly shitters that don't know shit about the game

Of course, the retards are going to keep doing it because posting >smogon or >vgc is guaranteed replies. I don't get why the mods don't do anything about the blatant shitposting because whenever I get banned for "quality of posts", it's not even comparable to the shit these retards spit out in every one of these threads over pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 15:27:50 No.21337927 Report

Quoted By: >>21338100 >>21338271

>nothing for garbodor

o-okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 15:41:11 No.21338100 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337927
>using garbodor
haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 15:49:42 No.21338226 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337461
Look at the dumped data. Most of the things that will be new to ORAS are redacted in the demo. For example, there is exactly one NPC quote that mentions the Battle Resort, and that's probably from one of your rivals.
We broke into a sample of ORAS and found a bigger sample of ORAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 15:52:48 No.21338271 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337927
get better taste, anon. your taste is literally garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 16:02:05 No.21338404 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337891
>whenever I get banned for "quality of posts", it's not even comparable to the shit these retards spit out
I know that feel

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 16:12:19 No.21338546 Report

Quoted By:

>>21337830
All fans of all things are obnoxious and annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 17:43:47 No.21339718 Report

Quoted By: >>21339782

>still no Body Slam or Headbutt on Sawsbuck
Why even serene grace?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 17:47:30 No.21339782 Report

Quoted By:

>>21339718
Fo sho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:00:25 No.21339976 Report

Quoted By: >>21339990

Is there anything notable? That text is formatted so poorly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:01:55 No.21339990 Report

Quoted By: >>21340084

>>21339976
>accelgor got water shuriken
>mismagius got mystical fire
>maractus and cacturne got spiky shield
>gyarados got crunch
>vibrava got boomburst
>huntail, milotic and gorebyss got coil
>castform got hurricane
>nuzleaf got leaf blade
thats pretty much it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:04:07 No.21340017 Report

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>>21328268
>tfw i se electivire gets ion deluge
>tfw i thought it turned all moves into electric type moves
>tfw my bro will forever be shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:08:02 No.21340078 Report

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does anyone have move tutor move data?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:08:17 No.21340084 Report

Quoted By: >>21340111 >>21341111

>>21339990
Neat
Also
>vibrava got Bug Buzz

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:09:06 No.21340098 Report

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>Dark Pulse is a tutor move

This shit has to be incomplete why the fuck would they put in a tutor move everyone can learn from the fucking TM or learn naturally/get via breeding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:09:57 No.21340111 Report

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>>21340084
Oh, I thought it always had that.
yfw Bug/Dragon Mega Flygon with an ability that works like Pixilate but turns Normal type moves into Bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:15:24 No.21340173 Report

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Chimecho - Level up moves
========
Count: 14
Level 1: Healing Wish
Level 1: Synchronoise
Level 1: Wrap
Level 1: Growl
Level 1: Astonish
Level 1: Confusion
Level 4: Growl
Level 7: Astonish
Level 10: Confusion
Level 13: Yawn
Level 16: Astonish
Level 19: Take Down
Level 22: Confusion
Level 27: Heal Bell

Does Chimeco just not learn moves in general?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:20:58 No.21340257 Report

Quoted By: >>21340269

>>21328268
>Groudon and Kyogre learn their respective signature moves at level 45
>Rayquaza does not learn Dragon Ascent by level up at all
Perhaps it learns it upon Mega Evolving; that could be what is 'different' about Rayquaza's Mega Evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:21:39 No.21340269 Report

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>>21340257
It gets it from a tutor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:26:18 No.21340319 Report

Quoted By: >>21340343

>>21336619

There's still a couple of things I'm hoping for, like Spinda learning Superpower via tutor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:28:20 No.21340343 Report

Quoted By: >>21340375

>>21340319
>Spinda: Covet, Low Kick, Uproar, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Last Resort, Icy Wind, Zen Headbutt, Hyper Voice, Snore, Role Play, Drain Punch, Focus Punch, Shock Wave, Water Pulse, Helping Hand, Trick, Recycle, Snatch, Skill Swap

http://pastebin.com/8rbu6Fmp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:30:43 No.21340375 Report

Quoted By: >>21340392

>>21340343

Thanks a lot, Game Freak.

>you will never have a Spinda that legally has Rapid Spin, Baton Pass and Contrary Superpower

At least Chatot has Tailwind and Heat Wave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:32:05 No.21340392 Report

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>>21340375
At least everything gets Knock Off and Stealth Rock again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:40:54 No.21340508 Report

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Where is that paste bin of the tutor moves anyways?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 18:48:14 No.21340582 Report

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Jigglypuff now gets Disarming Voice at Level 11 instead of Level 50. Glad we're going to stop being full retard about Fairy types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 19:25:28 No.21341111 Report

Quoted By: >>21341175 >>21341223 >>21341870

>>21340084
I hope Flygon gets a mega with more special attack
>boomburst
>earth power hits anything that resists boomburst
>dragon pulse for extra STAB I guess
Neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 19:29:21 No.21341175 Report

Quoted By: >>21341194 >>21341223

>>21341111
>fire blast
>giga drain
Just give it Sheer Force or Compounteyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 19:30:40 No.21341194 Report

Quoted By: >>21341223

>>21341175
>Sheer Force Mega Flygon with plenty of Sp. Atk
don't toy with my feelings like that...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 19:32:09 No.21341223 Report

Quoted By: >>21341367

>>21341111
>>21341175
>>21341194
>just make it do more damage lel
Or give it something interesting like Arena Trap

Or stop hoping that it'll get a mega, because it won't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 19:42:36 No.21341367 Report

Quoted By: >>21341399

>>21341223
We already have Dugtrio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 19:45:05 No.21341399 Report

Quoted By: >>21341544

>>21341367
Who is extremely shitty with no bulk and piss attack but Arena Trap lets it see a small amount of use. Imagine if something with decent stats (and Roost, and Defog) were to get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 19:46:50 No.21341418 Report

Quoted By: >>21341503

>Pyroar get Hyper Voice

Yeeee boi

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 19:49:43 No.21341460 Report

Quoted By: >>21341470

Does the move relearner teach these new level up moves, I wonder? I got a nice Gyarados already, I don't want him to become trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 19:50:17 No.21341470 Report

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>>21341460

no shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 19:52:31 No.21341503 Report

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>>21341418
its had that literally since day one of xy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 19:55:39 No.21341544 Report

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>>21341399
It needs more support moves for something like that.
Honestly, I could go either way with an Arena Trap support mon, or special attacker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 20:12:41 No.21341792 Report

Quoted By: >>21341819

>>21336609
I can see a Huntail set where you increase it's Sp.Def and HP to be able to use Coil a few times then use Aqua Tail/Muddy Water.
As for Milotic and Gorebyss, Blizzard will be the main move to abuse with Coil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 20:15:03 No.21341819 Report

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>>21341792
Milotic could also abuse Dragon Tail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 20:17:30 No.21341853 Report

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>>21329478
>best looking pokemon
ahahahahaahahahahahaha

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 20:18:34 No.21341870 Report

Quoted By: >>21341983

>>21341111
>Bug/Dragon
>Bug-type -ate Boomburst

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2014 20:25:58 No.21341983 Report

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>>21341870
bugfags are the lowest tier of all flygonfags

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