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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:31:07 No.21389006 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21389117 >>21389867

>Signature move
>Useless and inferior compared to the standerd Surf, Ice Beam etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:31:49 No.21389024 Report

Quoted By: >>21389037

>amazing move
>is the signature move of a garbage pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:32:30 No.21389037 Report

Quoted By: >>21389043 >>21389048 >>21389100 >>21389192

>>21389024
When does this happen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:33:14 No.21389043 Report

Quoted By: >>21389063

>>21389037
Freeze Dry

>tfw Aurorus will never be good ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:34:01 No.21389048 Report

Quoted By: >>21389464

>>21389037
>Malamar
>Pangoro

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:34:46 No.21389063 Report

Quoted By: >>21389076

>>21389043
>Freeze Dry
>Signature

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:35:00 No.21389065 Report

Quoted By: >>21389121 >>21389156 >>21389873

>Steamroller
Why does this shit even exist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:35:51 No.21389076 Report

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>>21389063
o-oh... i misread his last sentence.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:36:06 No.21389083 Report

Quoted By: >>21389109 >>21389140 >>21389813

>Signature move
>a much more popular/powerful pokemon gets it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:37:20 No.21389100 Report

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>>21389037
Shift Gear

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:38:09 No.21389109 Report

Quoted By: >>21389127

>>21389083
V-create :^(

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:38:35 No.21389114 Report

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>Signature move
>Takes four generations for it to be effectively used

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:38:50 No.21389117 Report

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>>21389006
Accelgor says hello

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:39:09 No.21389121 Report

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>>21389065
So you can be DIO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:39:34 No.21389127 Report

Quoted By: >>21389607

>>21389109
But Rayquaza is uber whereas Victini isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:40:36 No.21389140 Report

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>>21389083
>Signature move
>A much less powerful/popular Pokemon gets it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:42:11 No.21389156 Report

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>>21389065
>tfw you really can't WRYYYYYYYYYY your opponents because Megahorn is a much more practical choice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:44:35 No.21389192 Report

Quoted By: >>21389242 >>21389265 >>21389719

>>21389037
>pikachu (volt tackle)
>raichu (volt tackle
>vespiquen (defend/heal/attack order)
>chatot (chatter)
>klinklang (gear grind, shift gear)
>vivillon (powder)
>pyroar (noble roar)
>pangoro (parting shot)
>malamar (topsy-turvy)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:48:14 No.21389242 Report

Quoted By: >>21389371

>>21389192
>Chatot
>Vivillon
>shitmons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:50:05 No.21389265 Report

Quoted By: >>21389285 >>21389371 >>21389741

>>21389192
>volt tackle
>amazing

>defend/heal order
>not just flavor reskins

>chatot
>terrible

>klingklang
>terrible

>powder
>amazing

>noble roar
>amazing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:51:32 No.21389285 Report

Quoted By: >>21389313

>>21389265
Klingklang is actually shit dude

Also prior to Boomburst Chatot wasn't very good either

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:52:56 No.21389313 Report

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>>21389285
just wait till he gets Heat Wave in ORAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 00:57:10 No.21389371 Report

Quoted By: >>21389664

>>21389242
>chatot and vivillon
>decent defenses
>not weak to smogon stones
>not having tons of weaknesses to common offensive types
>outspeeding anything high tier
>breaking through eviolite chansey

>>21389265
>volt tackle
>not a move every physical electric type would kill for

>defend/heal order
>not amazing moves even if they are reskins

>chatot
see above

>klinklang
>not completely neutered by status or se attacks before setting up, especially prankster sableye

>powder
>not only useless because one pokemon has it
ferro and scizor would love it

>noble roar
>not a great move despite being inferior to parting shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:04:00 No.21389464 Report

Quoted By: >>21389514 >>21389549

>>21389048
Yo Pangoro gets a fuck ton of tutor moves in ORAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:07:37 No.21389514 Report

Quoted By: >>21389549

>>21389464
It actually gets punching moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:10:14 No.21389541 Report

Quoted By: >>21389578 >>21389621

>signature move
>the pokemon that gets it can't even use STAB fromm it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:10:34 No.21389549 Report

Quoted By: >>21389624

>>21389464
>>21389514
>implying there will be move tutors in ORAS
>Pangoro getting any elemental Punch
I bet your one of those fags who think Chesnaught will get Drain Punch too. Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:11:27 No.21389578 Report

Quoted By: >>21389592

>>21389541
>tfw no aerilate Noivern

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:12:13 No.21389592 Report

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>>21389578
Boomburst isn't a signature move.
I was talking about Exeggutor

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:13:47 No.21389607 Report

Quoted By:

>>21389127
>smogay tiers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:14:39 No.21389621 Report

Quoted By: >>21389634 >>21390996

>>21389541
>Techno Blast gets buffed to 120 BP
>Still forced to waste an item slot just to change its type
>None of the types even give STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:14:45 No.21389624 Report

Quoted By: >>21389691

>>21389549
>Being in denial
>Not wanting panda to be decent (It still won't be good even with elemental punches, drain punch, and knock off)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:15:30 No.21389634 Report

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>>21389621
>3 of the types it can be changed to it gets as TMs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:18:07 No.21389664 Report

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>>21389371
gee anon those sure are some glaring flaws
and not being OU-viable doesn't make a pokemon a shitmon either, poophead

>implying noble roar is inferior to parting shot
>implying scizor wants powder
>implying klinklangs don't run substitute

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:20:34 No.21389691 Report

Quoted By: >>21389702

>>21389624
>move tutors
>being in ORAS
LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:21:28 No.21389702 Report

Quoted By:

>>21389691
>saying lol in all caps
Goodrafag confirmed, consider suicide

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:22:26 No.21389719 Report

Quoted By:

>>21389192
>Chatot

Hey man, fuck you.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-94623019

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:24:12 No.21389741 Report

Quoted By: >>21389758 >>21389816

>>21389265

I use Pikachu. Volt tackle is fucking shit.

It's only thing that keeps him even remotely usable, but the tradeoff is suicide. Might as well be explosion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:25:29 No.21389758 Report

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>>21389741
That's because Pikachu has shit HP. Luxray and Electivire would kill for VT

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:29:29 No.21389813 Report

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>>21389083
What is Leaf Blade?
What is Blaze Kick?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:29:37 No.21389816 Report

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>>21389741
At the very least Rotom should be able to have it. And maybe Ledian

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:34:38 No.21389867 Report

Quoted By: >>21389913

>>21389006
>Hyperspace Hole
>8 PP at most
>weaker than Psychic
>none of the benefits of Psyshock
>can hit through Protect but Protect stalling isn't much of an issue for Hoopa anyway

At least Hyperspace Fury is good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:35:02 No.21389873 Report

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>>21389065
Funny thing is, there's an OM called haxmons that makes moves always get secondary effects, and steamroller speed boost scoli is a top- tier threat because it outspeeds and finches most things to death.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:37:27 No.21389905 Report

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Do we know the details about origin pulse and precipice blade?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:37:57 No.21389913 Report

Quoted By: >>21389940 >>21389970

>>21389867
i haven't looked up at Hyperspace Fury's data, what does it do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:39:50 No.21389940 Report

Quoted By: >>21389970

>>21389913
100 BP never miss dark type move that hits through Protect/Detect exclusive to Hoopa-H.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:42:03 No.21389970 Report

Quoted By: >>21389992

>>21389913
>>21389940
It also ignores substitutes (although Hyperspace Hole does this too), and lowers the user's Defense 1 stage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:43:48 No.21389992 Report

Quoted By: >>21390003 >>21390011 >>21390034

>>21389970
Jesus Christ, isn't that too much for just a single move?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:44:18 No.21389995 Report

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>Luster Purge
>Mist Ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:44:45 No.21390003 Report

Quoted By: >>21390034

>>21389992
Game Freak must think the Defense drop balances it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:45:30 No.21390011 Report

Quoted By: >>21390039

>>21389992
-1 defence and sucker punch exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:47:08 No.21390034 Report

Quoted By: >>21390071 >>21390075

>>21389992
>>21390003
The only real benefits from that are the Detect/Sub thing, I can't really see it being used over Dark Pulse in singles with a side effect like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:47:26 No.21390039 Report

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>>21390011
Hoopa-H can actually live through most Sucker punches as long as both mons have no buffs/debuffs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:49:03 No.21390071 Report

Quoted By: >>21390105

>>21390034
Close combat is an amazing and frequently used movein singles. It absolutely will be used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:49:19 No.21390075 Report

Quoted By: >>21390105

>>21390034
>150 BP never miss move that ignores subs/Protect/Detect
>not getting used
Scarf Hoopa-H is going to spam that fucking thing until everything's in a bloody heap in front of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:51:50 No.21390105 Report

Quoted By: >>21390179

>>21390071
There's no version of Close Combat that hits for 20 BP lower, has no negative effect, and has one positive effect

>>21390075
If it's 150BP though, that shits crazy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 01:57:25 No.21390179 Report

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>>21390105
>If it's 150BP though, that shits crazy
That's after STAB gets applied.
>>21390105
Hyper Fury is getting used since it murders almost everything weak to it in a single hit, the things it doesn't kill it cripples.
>252 SpA Hoopa (No Move) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Giratina: 254-302 (50.4 - 60%) -- 84% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
That's Hoopa with Hoopa-H's spa stat, dark typing and a custom 100 BP special dark type move.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 02:03:42 No.21390282 Report

Quoted By: >>21390380

>Dream World exclusive moves
>Event exclusive moves
>Pokemon who REQUIRE event exclusive moves to work properly
>Moves that can only be gained from prior generations
>Moves that can only be gained from prior generation spinoffs

Can we not

Like, how have we gone 3 generations, and still need to get Pokemon XD just to get Helping fucking Hand

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 02:10:10 No.21390380 Report

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>>21390282
>metronome is a tutor move in frlg
I want my metronome shenanigans damn it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 02:25:09 No.21390542 Report

Quoted By: >>21390555 >>21390573 >>21390623

>Yanmega can learn Giga Drain through the Dream World
>can't learn it through TM

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 02:26:23 No.21390555 Report

Quoted By:

>>21390542
>Ninetales can learn Energy Ball via breeding/
>Not via TM

At least that was true in Gen 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 02:28:24 No.21390573 Report

Quoted By: >>21390651

>>21390542
wut, Yanmega could learn Giga Drain back when it was a TM and with the B2W2 tutors, and it'll probably learn it again in ORAS

meanwhile
>Endure

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 02:32:01 No.21390623 Report

Quoted By:

>>21390542
>Shedinja can no longer learn Swords Dance
you know nothing of suffering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 02:34:54 No.21390651 Report

Quoted By: >>21390715

>>21390573
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Yanmega_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29#By_TM.2FHM

u wot m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 02:41:08 No.21390715 Report

Quoted By: >>21390802

>>21390651
>Generation VI
>Giga Drain TM

are you retarded or something? http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/469.shtml

also
>Bulbapedo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 02:47:07 No.21390802 Report

Quoted By: >>21390881

>>21390715
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Yanmega_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29/Generation_V_learnset#By_TM.2FHM

you talking shit about muh bulbapedia m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 02:53:37 No.21390881 Report

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>>21390802
why i get the feel i'm being baited here? but in case this isn't bait, GIGA DRAIN STOPPED BEING A TM AFTER GEN IV YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 03:03:05 No.21390996 Report

Quoted By:

>>21389621
>TECHNO blast not being steel type by default
Game Freak

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