>>21399609It's very passive
As a spikes user, Chesnaught, Greninja, Froslass, Skarmory, Ferrothorn, uhh a lot of things are better in that they don't hand out free turns like candy
Its role as a bulky spinner has been overtaken by bulky defoggers, many of which are bulkier with a better typing. Bulky Starmie is also generally better in that it has recovery and Reflect type is honestly a really good move
It can't beat ANY spinblocker
It's set-up bait
>>21399663Being bulky/having a lot of resistances isn't good when you just sit there and do nothing.
