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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:24:26 No.21399578 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21399643 >>21399698 >>21399798 >>21399882 >>21399964 >>21400413 >>21401461 >>21401717 >>21402847 >>21404050 >>21407082 >>21408395 >>21410174 >>21417537

most types have quirks

>fire - cannot be burn
>electric - cannot be paralyzed
>dark - immune to physic
>steel - immune to poison
>fairy - immune to dragon
>normal - immune to ghost
>ghost - immune to normal and fighting
>poison - cannot be poisoned
>flying - immune to ground
>ground - immune to electric
>grass - immune to powder and spore
>ice - cannot be frozen

make up reasonable quirks for these types that do not posses any real quirks (weather related quirks are not enough as it should exist regardless)

>rock
>bug
>fighting
>psychic
>water
>dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:28:57 No.21399643 Report

Quoted By: >>21399675 >>21399749 >>21401057 >>21410119

>>21399578
psychic - cannot be confused

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:31:03 No.21399675 Report

Quoted By: >>21399685 >>21401753 >>21415952

>>21399643
since when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:32:08 No.21399685 Report

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>>21399675
Did you even read OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:32:56 No.21399698 Report

Quoted By: >>21400163 >>21416879

>>21399578
>rock
def bump in sand is a thing if that counts
>dragon
only SE against itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:34:28 No.21399724 Report

Quoted By: >>21399753 >>21400425 >>21400867 >>21401197 >>21408581 >>21410125

rock - stealth rock acts as leftovers on the switch
bug - auto sap sipper
dragon - attack and SPA cannot be dropped by opponent

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:36:22 No.21399749 Report

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>>21399643
love that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:36:33 No.21399753 Report

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>>21399724
>auto sap sipper

Bugs new meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:40:24 No.21399798 Report

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>>21399578
>ghost - immune to normal and fighting
You mean
>ghost - immune to normal and fighting and trapping

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:45:43 No.21399843 Report

Quoted By: >>21400678 >>21400756 >>21401038 >>21401294 >>21402877 >>21410134

>Psychic
Immune to confusion
>Rock
Absorb stealth rock
>Fighting
Take half damage from recoil
>Bug
Shed skin on everything
>Dragon
"Thrash" moves last an extra turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:49:10 No.21399882 Report

Quoted By: >>21399903 >>21399913 >>21399928 >>21401625 >>21404195

>>21399578
Dragon
>immune to grass
Rock
>can't fall in love
Bug
>immune to fairy
Psychic
>can't be confused
Water
>immune to fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:51:43 No.21399903 Report

Quoted By: >>21401625 >>21412224

>>21399882
Wait I take it back.

Bug = Immune to Steel. Steel is too OP currently

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:52:55 No.21399913 Report

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>>21399882
>water
>immune to fire
>because water cannot evaporate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:53:23 No.21399918 Report

Quoted By: >>21399984 >>21402935

Fighting - cannot be flinched,Inner Focus is now a inherent Focus Energy

>MGallade and all those crit moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:54:13 No.21399928 Report

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>>21399882
>Water
>immune to fire

Way to balance the starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:55:59 No.21399964 Report

Quoted By: >>21399980 >>21400029 >>21400040 >>21400072 >>21400271 >>21400642 >>21410314

>>21399578
>Rock - absorbs Spikes and SR
>Bug - immune to Attract, Captivate and Charm
>Fighting - are 50% more likely to not be affected by moves that cause flinch. This includes Fake Out, meaning there is a chance to be damaged but still attack
>Psychic - recover from confusion before they move (meaning you can Synchronise it before it heals)
>Water - Water HMs get priority if used by Water types
>Dragon - cannot be Roar'd out and immune to Intimidate when at full health

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:56:55 No.21399980 Report

Quoted By: >>21400005 >>21404237

>>21399964
>Priority Surf on Greninja
Please don't convince shitters to keep using this shit move

please

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:57:17 No.21399984 Report

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>>21399918
I considered fighting cannot be flinched but wow Inner Focus being a free Focus Energy makes sense and makes Gallade pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 19:59:01 No.21400005 Report

Quoted By: >>21404209

>>21399980
>worried about OU mons dominating OU
Ever since Gen1 with Hyper Beam and Earthquake, there will always be spammers.
Also,
>Surf on Greninja
lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:00:20 No.21400029 Report

Quoted By: >>21400187

>>21399964
>ok
>ok
>too complex
>don't get it but okay
>too op
>too complex

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:00:59 No.21400040 Report

Quoted By: >>21400242

>>21399964
>Absorbing spikes
>Priority waterfall
>Dragons can't be intimidated
Imbalanced as hell

>Bugs immune to attract
Why

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:02:40 No.21400072 Report

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>>21399964
Wow surf would actually have a use now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:11:08 No.21400163 Report

Quoted By: >>21400634

>>21399698
>Dragon back to being SE only against itself
So then what was the point of adding in Fairy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:12:37 No.21400187 Report

Quoted By: >>21400251 >>21400429 >>21402738

>>21400029
>moves that cause or may cause Flinch are half as likely to work on Fighting types
>Fake out has a 50% chance to not flinch Fighting types
Not that complex

>Psychic
Fair enough. I basically meant that if they get confused, they'll recover before they make a move e.g. if they get confused at the end of the turn, they'll stay confused until they attack, giving Synchronise users a chance to pass it over before healing it.

>Water
Its only +1, and Waterfall is really the one everyone uses anyway.

>Dragon
When at full health, they can't be switched out by Roar, nor can they have their attack lowered by Intimidate. So a match that starts with Granbull VS Garchomp wont start with Granbull lowering Garchomp's attack, nor being able to Roar it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:16:44 No.21400242 Report

Quoted By: >>21400343 >>21400537 >>21414537

>>21400040
you ever tried to seduce a bug?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:17:09 No.21400251 Report

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>>21400187

Are you kidding? Giving priority to one of the most dominant types isn't OP for you? Say goodbye to ground, fire and rock types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:18:39 No.21400271 Report

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>>21399964
>priority Choice Band Waterfall in rain
yeah no

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:24:58 No.21400343 Report

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>>21400242
I don't like to talk about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:33:00 No.21400413 Report

Quoted By: >>21400456

>>21399578
>>rock
Unable to flinch. Other choice would be immunity to entry hazards but that's been mentioned.
>>bug
Immunity to Dark. Most insects thrive in darkness so it seems only natural for the typing to not be harmed by it.
>>fighting
Chance to break through trapping effects. Reasoning: The sheer hard-headed nature of fighting types would let them bully through what would normally stop meeker 'mons.
>>psychic
Immunity to confusion.
>>water
chance of shaking off certain status effects (poison and burn). Alternatively I would consider immunity to burns.
>>dragon
No change really needed, the typing is plenty strong as it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:34:25 No.21400425 Report

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>>21399724
wait so dragons can't be intimidated? seems OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:35:06 No.21400429 Report

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>>21400187
Surf is used as well though less now that Scald is a thing. But yeah doubles would freak out from priority Surf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:36:53 No.21400447 Report

Quoted By: >>21401121

Poison's already immune to Toxic, but I've always thought that Poison types should have a built in Liquid Ooze effect on every Mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:37:39 No.21400456 Report

Quoted By: >>21400526

>>21400413
>physical sweepers such as gyarados immune to burn
pls no

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:43:16 No.21400526 Report

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>>21400456
Good point, just always bothered me something able to control water or sometimes made of water could be burned.

Water is a powerful typing as it is though so I might just write it up like dragon where it doesnt require a "quirk".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:44:15 No.21400537 Report

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>>21400242
You can also seduce rocks, robots, aliens, and plants.

Bugs have just as much if not more weird courtship shit as any other animal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:45:17 No.21400564 Report

Quoted By: >>21400583

Didn't the Electric thing just happen this Gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:46:45 No.21400583 Report

Quoted By: >>21400781 >>21400804

>>21400564
So did grass being immune to powder moves and ghost not being able to be trapped.

And toxic being 100% accurate when used by a poison type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:50:55 No.21400634 Report

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>>21400163
what is reading comprehension

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:51:29 No.21400642 Report

Quoted By: >>21400977 >>21401354 >>21401362

>>21399964
>Kingdra used Dragon Dance!
>Kingdra swept your whole fucking team!
>Intimidate and Roar have no effect!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 20:54:06 No.21400678 Report

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>>21399843
I like this guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:00:36 No.21400756 Report

Quoted By: >>21400814

>>21399843
>Absorb stealth rock
Oh god. Imagine the smogontears.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:02:37 No.21400781 Report

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>>21400583
>wow isn't 100% when used by fire types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:04:26 No.21400804 Report

Quoted By: >>21400843

>>21400583
Crobat: even at +6 evasion and behind a substitute your anus will be poisoned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:05:36 No.21400814 Report

Quoted By: >>21400845

>>21400756
Smogon would make a point of having something that can lure and kill rock types on SR reliant teams.

The same way they get rid of magic bouncers, defoggers, and spinners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:07:42 No.21400843 Report

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>>21400804
Even while underground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:07:52 No.21400845 Report

Quoted By: >>21400891

>>21400814
Those shitheads could not even handle a sword and jaw shitfu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:08:43 No.21400856 Report

Quoted By: >>21400901

Steel and Rock types should also be immune to Spikes, Sneaky Stalactites, and Rough Skin.

Psychic should be immune to confusion.

Water...how about starting with a stat boost if you're fighting on a water tile?

Not sure about Bug, Fighting, and Dragon, though. Dragon doesn't really need a perk. I guess Bug could get more of a bonus from evasion-boosting moves like Double Team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:09:33 No.21400867 Report

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>>21399724
>bug - auto sap sipper
>making grass even fucking worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:11:29 No.21400891 Report

Quoted By: >>21400947

>>21400845
M-muh smogon bans everything even though everyone knew aegislash would be banned from day 1 and they banned all the checks to something with the highest attack in the game!

The swagger and baton pass bans were handled horribly. But smogon generally helps create a healthy 6v6 singles metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:12:34 No.21400901 Report

Quoted By: >>21400919

>>21400856
Earlier in the thread I mentioned Dragons getting an extra turn of Outrage and related moves, I think it's a suitable double edged sword.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:14:28 No.21400919 Report

Quoted By: >>21401231

>>21400901
How is that double-edged, though? STAB Outrage doesn't need any more of a buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:15:11 No.21400925 Report

Quoted By: >>21400967 >>21401064

>water not having a perk

maybe you fags will finally realize that Water needs a buff in so many ways. meanwhile fire is resistant to 6 fucking typings, and cannot be burned and can burn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:15:42 No.21400932 Report

Quoted By: >>21400954

Grass: recovery moves and items gets x2 effect
Bug: passive compound eyes (not sure what to do with ability)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:17:37 No.21400947 Report

Quoted By: >>21410653

>>21400891
Doubles are always superior.
Battle Spot > shit > urine > Russia > Smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:18:48 No.21400954 Report

Quoted By: >>21400980

>>21400932
Mega Venasaur and Celebi for kings of OU stall

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:20:21 No.21400967 Report

Quoted By: >>21410409

>>21400925
It doesn't need a buff, Water's only real weakness is Electric since most Water-types can learn at least one Ice move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:21:26 No.21400977 Report

Quoted By: >>21400996

>>21400642
>DD Kingdra
>not superior specs hydro pump in rain
le smug anime faec

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:21:34 No.21400980 Report

Quoted By: >>21401005

>>21400954
>Celebi
>Purrloin used u-turn!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:23:10 No.21400996 Report

Quoted By:

>>21400977
>hydro pump
>priority HM

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:24:04 No.21401005 Report

Quoted By:

>>21400980
>Celebi held on using it's Focus Sash!
>Celebi used Recover!
>Celebi recovered 100% of its health!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:26:22 No.21401023 Report

Quoted By: >>21401417

these are very unreasonable but whatever

> bugs swarm together, receive +1 in strongest stat for each bug type still active on team, (foretress gives +1 defense to all other bugs on team, ninjask gives +1 speed, etc.)
> rock types built in sturdy, absorb hazards
> fighting types master their hold items and gain 1.5x the effect, becomes weak to ghost
> psychic types can concentrate to deal 1.5x extra damage if they haven't been injured or statused that turn
> dragons become strong against fire, fighting, and dark but reward +4 atk/sp.atk when slain, dragon dance removed from game, max 1 dragon per team.
> Water types continue their cycle of life and can be revived via wish

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:28:01 No.21401038 Report

Quoted By: >>21401048 >>21401067

>>21399843
This is all good but I really like
>>Fighting
>Take half damage from recoil

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:29:36 No.21401048 Report

Quoted By: >>21401067 >>21401387

>>21401038
Not very useful, though. Only one Fighting move causes recoil damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:30:55 No.21401057 Report

Quoted By: >>21401067 >>21401764

>>21399643

>Psychics
>Not MORE vulnerable to confusion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:31:53 No.21401064 Report

Quoted By: >>21401418

>>21400925

maybe your retarded ass will realize 6 resistances means fuck all when you're weak to ground, water, and rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:32:03 No.21401067 Report

Quoted By: >>21401642

>>21401038
>>21401048
Unless you also meant the damage you get from missing Jump Kick and Hi Jump Kick.

>>21401057
Most Psychic types are all about having powerful minds, it just makes sense for them to be immune to such an effect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:37:05 No.21401113 Report

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fighting types should also be immune to paralisis.

their muscles are beyond those of ordinary mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:38:01 No.21401121 Report

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>>21400447
Makes sense afterall

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:41:10 No.21401157 Report

Quoted By: >>21401347 >>21401468 >>21401534

When a psychic mon uses toxic, it can't miss.

>yfw you never realized this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:44:10 No.21401197 Report

Quoted By:

>>21399724
>bug - auto sap sipper
Is grass not garbage enough? How long must they suffer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:47:05 No.21401231 Report

Quoted By: >>21401299

>>21400919
>being locked into resisted outrage for an extra turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:50:38 No.21401294 Report

Quoted By:

>>21399843
>Bug
Shed skin on everything

I like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:50:57 No.21401299 Report

Quoted By: >>21401416

>>21401231
So it's only matters when you're fighting a Steel type? That seems a little too exclusive to be called a weakness.

A Fairy type would just make Outrage stop no matter what, and if the opponent was gonna switch to a Fairy to counter Outrage, they would do it as soon as possible, so the extra turn wouldn't matter.

So yeah, sorry, don't really think is a double-edged move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:56:44 No.21401347 Report

Quoted By: >>21401383

>>21401157
everyone already knows that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:57:03 No.21401354 Report

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>>21400642
>one shitmon being more difficult is enough to dismiss an entire type change
Thanks to the nerf this gen, Steel types no longer define entire battles, and we only have to put up with "was already cheap because of ability and signature move" Aegislash existing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:58:05 No.21401362 Report

Quoted By:

>>21400642
>>21400962
/vp/ does this all the fucking time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 21:59:37 No.21401383 Report

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>>21401347
Last time this was posted half of /vp/ lost their shit. Guess /vp/ only has like ten people, and they all saw that post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:00:08 No.21401387 Report

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>>21401048
Doesn't have to be a fighting type move, I'm sure Blaziken would enjoy less recoil on Flare Blitz.

Admittedly Submission is the only fighting type move with recoil and it sucks, but if it was bumped up to 120 bp or 90 bp 100 accuracy or something it would be usable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:03:02 No.21401416 Report

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>>21401299
3-4 turns of outrage isn't that good either, and you're acting like steel types aren't some of the best pokemon competitively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:03:04 No.21401417 Report

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>>21401023
What the fuck are these supposed to be? It's like your trying to play a different game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:03:05 No.21401418 Report

Quoted By: >>21401513

>>21401064
>x has weaknesses

whats your fucking point? water has weaknesses too.

fire has SIX resistances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:06:07 No.21401461 Report

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>>21399578
Rock
>immune to entry hazards
Fighting
>cannot be infatuated
Psychic
>cannot be confused

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:06:52 No.21401468 Report

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>>21401157
que

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:10:05 No.21401513 Report

Quoted By: >>21412537

>>21401418
But those resistances tend to not matter.
Bug and grass aren't very common attacking types as a shitload of other things resist them as well. Steel isn't that common either, Fairy barely boosted their offensive use. A type resisting itself isn't very uncommon, nor is it that useful unless paired with a good type to combat other Pokemon of the same type.

Fairy and ice resistances are really the only ones that matter, so I don't see those resistances as a big deal when steel resists 10 types and has an immunity

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:11:27 No.21401534 Report

Quoted By: >>21401561

>>21401157
>psychic
You mean Poison?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:13:58 No.21401561 Report

Quoted By: >>21401584

>>21401534
No, psychic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:16:06 No.21401584 Report

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>>21401561
Explain? Is it like some unwritten rule? I can't find documentation of that anywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:17:37 No.21401618 Report

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I'd propose that draining moves recover more health for Bugs but that's really more fitting on Grass types. I like the idea of an auto Shed Skin but seven Bug types would need their ability changed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:18:11 No.21401625 Report

Quoted By:

>>21399903
>>>21399882
> Wait I take it back.
>
> Bug = Immune to Steel. Steel
> is too OP currentlyI like the idea but I can hit a bug with a hammer

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:19:24 No.21401642 Report

Quoted By: >>21401689

>>21401067

The original name of Psychic is Esper, as it in ExtraSensory Perception. Psychics may have stronger minds, but they're much more receptive to negative and alien thoughts. Why do you think Ghost, Dark, and Bug slap Psychic's shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:22:53 No.21401689 Report

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>>21401642
That's fine but it still makes sense for them to be immune to confusion, because they have enhanced perception.

Weak against things that represent common fears, but immunity to an affect that would confuse or perplex a lesser mind, that just makes sense to me.

Edgar 2423-1838-3141

Edgar 2423-1838-3141 Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:25:12 No.21401717 Report

Quoted By: >>21401744 >>21401759 >>21407279 >>21408327

>>21399578

>Rock
Immune to ground since rocks are hardened ground

>Bug
Immune to dark because they live in dark places like spiders (only give immunity to spider mons like Ariados and Galvantula)

>Fighting
When getting hit by steel types, def or att goes up one stage depending on the foe stats

>Psychic
Immune to trick or switcheroo, confusion and infatuatuon (every mind-play)

>Water
Immune to toxic

>Dragon
Steel type attacks doubles attack

Just kidding, I'm bored and need to play ORAS demo right fucking now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:26:58 No.21401744 Report

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>>21401717
>Immune to dark because they live in dark places like spiders
>bugs living inside spiders
How horrifying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:27:32 No.21401753 Report

Quoted By: >>21401777

>>21399675
Are you a moron?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:27:51 No.21401759 Report

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>>21401717
Actually Water being immune to Toxic isn't so ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:28:24 No.21401764 Report

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>>21401057

Do you want Swagplay balanced or not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:29:15 No.21401777 Report

Quoted By: >>21401802

>>21401753
>replying to a three-hour-old comment

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:30:36 No.21401802 Report

Quoted By: >>21401834

>>21401777
Nice save.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 22:34:04 No.21401834 Report

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>>21401802
JACKPOT BABY

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 23:40:44 No.21402738 Report

Quoted By: >>21402859 >>21410183

>>21400187
That's insane!
Can you imagine a beefed up Garchomp or Dragonite that can't have it's Atk lowered nor can it be roared out?! How do you deal with it? Hope it's a special Attker? Hope you have whirlwind? Hope for a fucking miracle?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 23:47:31 No.21402847 Report

Quoted By: >>21402890 >>21410493

>>21399578
ice no longer is damaged by burn instead they become water.
water changes to ice when frozen instead of being unable to move

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 23:48:12 No.21402859 Report

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>>21402738
>greninja used ice beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 23:49:30 No.21402877 Report

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>>21399843
this isn't bad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 23:50:31 No.21402890 Report

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>>21402847

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2014 23:53:29 No.21402935 Report

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>>21399918
>inner focus is just a better super luck
okay

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 01:19:19 No.21404050 Report

Quoted By: >>21412439 >>21415924

>>21399578
>rock
doesnt flinch
>bug
gets minor stat boosts when multiple of the same species are in the party- a hive sort of thing
>fighting
when one fighting type uses a physical fighting attack on another, if the value of the user's attack and defense combined are more than the value of the targets attack and defense combined, its super effective. otherwise its not very effective.
>psychic
immune to confusion
>water
cannot have accuracy lowered by ground type moves
>dragon
immune to fire obviously, as fire cannot kill a dragon
oh and capcha: 151

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 01:24:38 No.21404099 Report

Quoted By: >>21410513

water- if a water pokemon inflicts more than 40% damage with a water type move, the pokemon can obtain the "waterlogged" status condition. It's speed is halved while waterlogged. Water pokemon are immune to waterlog

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 01:25:30 No.21404112 Report

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>Rock
Immune to Spikes, Stealth Rock, and the ability Rough Skin

>Bug
Increased benefit from evasiveness-increasing moves

>Fighting
No recoil or flinching

>Psychic
Immune to confusion

>Water
All water moves have priority if Surfing/Diving

>Dragon
No quirk necessary

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 01:34:34 No.21404195 Report

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>>21399882
>Can't fall in love

You monster

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 01:36:01 No.21404209 Report

Quoted By:

>>21400005
Priority Surf on Grenigger will be the end of T-Flame and anything weak to water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 01:39:56 No.21404237 Report

Quoted By:

>>21399980
forget that
>Priority Waterfall on Azumarill

that shit's terrifying

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 05:36:35 No.21407082 Report

Quoted By:

>>21399578
Psychic - can't be trapped
Fighting - STAB moves go through protect moves
Water - doesn't need another boost.
Dragon - Award +1 in Atk/SpA when they faint and are immune to roar

Bug - automatic compound eyes effect.
Rock - ressists fairy and dragon + absorbs SR and Spikes upon entry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 05:59:05 No.21407279 Report

Quoted By: >>21407672

>>21401717
Dark type isn't literal darkness though. It's more about evil trickery. The Japanese name is even あく.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 07:01:09 No.21407672 Report

Quoted By: >>21407777

>>21407279
to be fair, it DOES encapsulate literal Darkness

NightDaze for example

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 07:18:33 No.21407777 Report

Quoted By: >>21408078 >>21409892

>>21407672

A single move in the midst of a sea of Dark attacks that have nothing to do with darkness.

If any type is actually about darkness, it's ghost. Every other Ghost move has "shadow" as a prefix and/or involves some kind of shadowy energy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 08:10:08 No.21408078 Report

Quoted By:

>>21407777
there's also Dark Void

Ghost is a different field entirely anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 08:29:45 No.21408187 Report

Quoted By:

rock immune to flinch
psychic immune to confuse
and who knows for the others these are the easy ones

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 08:53:13 No.21408327 Report

Quoted By:

>>21401717
>Rock immune to ground
Great, now I can finally Head Smash OU to hell with my bro Aggron

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 08:56:26 No.21408350 Report

Quoted By:

>Rock
Absorbs stealth rock and spikes.

>Bug
Immune to sound-based moves.

>Fighting
Cannot flinch.

>Psychic
Immune to confusion.

>Water
Immune to burn.

>Dragon
Statistically higher stat total.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 08:59:03 No.21408364 Report

Quoted By:

>bug
>moves with less than 100 accuracy have their miss chance doubled

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 09:02:28 No.21408377 Report

Quoted By:

Rock - cannot be rocked

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 09:08:49 No.21408395 Report

Quoted By: >>21410158

>>21399578
>Fighting
Can't flinch unless Focus Punch fails

>Psychic
Can't be confused

>Rock
Immune to critical hits

>Bug
Immune to infatuation

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 09:48:31 No.21408581 Report

Quoted By:

>>21399724
>implying bugs eat plants

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 09:54:46 No.21408606 Report

Quoted By:

Rock types have innate Solid Rock/Filter.

This stacks with Solid Rock/Filter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 13:36:04 No.21409892 Report

Quoted By: >>21410007

>>21407777
>dark pulse
>dark void
>night daze
>night slash
>all the designs and names that imply actual darkness

it's both

unless you're implying things like hydreigon are cheap or tricky pokemon, not evil creatures bent on destruction

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 13:47:50 No.21410007 Report

Quoted By: >>21412301

>>21409892
The whole point of hydreigon is that it's a dick by nature though, not that it's outright evil or vicious or anything. Tyranitar fits that description more.

Hell even in your move examples, night slash is the Japanese dickery of testing your blade on bystanders in the middle of the night and dark pulse is manifesting your bad thoughts into an attack. You're basically using the thought of having cheap tricks as a weapon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 13:54:38 No.21410074 Report

Quoted By:

>weather related quirks are not enough as it should exist regardless
Rock is the only typing that has an inherent weather quirk though. Everything else is STAB offense or ability related meaning a water type technically has nothing in rain if it's just using something like ice beam or even thunderbolt.

Rock is the only one with non-situational weather quirks that apply no matter what moves or ability you have. Just being a rock type lets you get the defensive boost while 3/4 of the time, Heatran gets nothing from being in the sun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 13:59:10 No.21410119 Report

Quoted By:

>>21399643
this is nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 14:00:12 No.21410125 Report

Quoted By:

>>21399724
too OP, meh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 14:01:14 No.21410134 Report

Quoted By: >>21411082

>>21399843
the shed skin is too overpowered, but the rest is really nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 14:03:11 No.21410158 Report

Quoted By:

>>21408395
This. So much this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 14:04:37 No.21410174 Report

Quoted By:

>>21399578
>rock
can't be crit
>bug
can't be slowed
>fighting
can't flinch
>psychic
can't be confused
>water
50% resistant to burn and freeze
more susceptible to paralyze?

>dragon
OP POKEMON ONLY

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 14:05:57 No.21410183 Report

Quoted By:

>>21402738
>Hit once with anything
>No longer at full health
>Can now have attack lowered or be roared out

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 14:17:14 No.21410307 Report

Quoted By:

>rock
Rock doesn't need fixing as it already has the +SpD in sand, but let's add absorbing stealth rock because why the fuck not.
>bug
Cannot be whirlwinded out (roar still works, tho). Based sticky bug feet.
>fighting
Cannot flinch. Ever seen a good martial artist flinch? Didn't think so.
>psychic
Immunity to critical hits. They be too smart to be caught by crit tactics, man.
>water
Toxic poison turns into regular poison.
>dragon
Thrash, Outrage, Rage and other rage/wrath-based moves all get an additional x1.25 power bonus. It's a DRAGON. As in, DRAGON. As in, FUCK YOU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 14:18:01 No.21410314 Report

Quoted By:

>>21399964
How about we make that water one only apply in rain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 14:26:21 No.21410409 Report

Quoted By:

>>21400967
and then you've got the fucking water/ground types that ruin even that.

Anyone remember how OP swampert used to be (and still is to an extent)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 14:33:07 No.21410493 Report

Quoted By:

>>21402847
I'm not sure what to think of this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 14:33:55 No.21410503 Report

Quoted By:

this is the true and best suggestion, we do not need perfect balance

>bug
immune to stat dropping abilities/hazards
theyre bugs, the stats are already low
>psychic
immune to confusion
>dark, immune to flinching, theyre dark types man
>fighting
???
>ice
all attacks have double the chance of freezing opponent
>rock
no crits pls
>water/dragon
OP as it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 14:34:42 No.21410513 Report

Quoted By: >>21410811

>>21404099
I think waterlogged should make you vulnerable to electric attacks rather than lower speed.

Anonymous

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Quoted By:

>>21400947
Let's be best friends.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 14:44:26 No.21410662 Report

Quoted By:

>Hey Gary, how many people in this thread don't already know that Rock types get a passive 50% boost to Special Defense in a Sandstorm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 14:57:15 No.21410811 Report

Quoted By:

>>21410513
We already have Soak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 15:15:26 No.21411082 Report

Quoted By:

>>21410134
>the shed skin is too overpowered, but the rest is really nice

hardly, since bug was fucked over in gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 16:44:03 No.21412224 Report

Quoted By: >>21412248

>>21399903
>how do I delete posts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 16:46:00 No.21412248 Report

Quoted By:

>>21412224
>click the triangle next to your post number

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 16:50:21 No.21412301 Report

Quoted By: >>21412390 >>21416685

>>21410007
>dark pulse
>dark void
>night daze
>absol being dark because people thought it was a bad sign to see in the mountains

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 16:59:05 No.21412390 Report

Quoted By: >>21412417

>>21412301
absol is dark because it's a bad omen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 17:01:11 No.21412417 Report

Quoted By: >>21412501

>>21412390
A bad omen because it might trick you and sucker punch you when you're not looking?

or a bad omen because it might be evil?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 17:03:03 No.21412439 Report

Quoted By:

>>21404050
Interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 17:05:34 No.21412472 Report

Quoted By: >>21413648

rock is immune to sandstorm, does that not count?

psychic being immune to confusion would be cool, swagger needs a nerf

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 17:07:18 No.21412501 Report

Quoted By:

>>21412417
Not necessarily either of those anon, a bad omen because it's presence implies the following of a natural disaster. Almost like Moth Man

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 17:10:47 No.21412537 Report

Quoted By:

>>21401513
>Grass and Steel are uncommon
lol?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 18:28:37 No.21413648 Report

Quoted By:

>>21412472
> "weather related quirks are not enough as it should exist regardless"
> does sandstorm count?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 19:25:47 No.21414505 Report

Quoted By:

>dragon
fe.m.ale on.ly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 19:27:45 No.21414537 Report

Quoted By:

>>21400242
Have you ever been to /tg/? Although they might want the bugs to seduce you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 20:50:01 No.21415924 Report

Quoted By:

>>21404050
>
But we know molten gold can, so Steel should be SE on Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 20:51:32 No.21415952 Report

Quoted By:

>>21399675
>being this retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 21:29:50 No.21416685 Report

Quoted By:

>>21412301
Dark Pulse is still using evil thoughts to attack

Really, dark type is part trickery, part, "Holy shit these things are evil"

Also you could have used Yveltal if arguing against dark = just trickery as it literally kills entire regions to save its own ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 21:36:32 No.21416801 Report

Quoted By:

>Electric
>Cannot be paralyzed

Which is fucking retarded. Do all electrics no longer have a nervous system anymore?

Powders and slams should turn them into cripples

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 21:41:17 No.21416879 Report

Quoted By:

>>21399698
>fourth response
>thread has gone on this long
>no one points out that ghost is SE against itself
Fucking /vp/, git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 22:22:47 No.21417537 Report

Quoted By: >>21417640

>>21399578
Ok, here goes nothing...

>Rock
absorbs Stealth Rocks on entry
already existing: +1 SDef in sandstorm, immune to sandstorm damage

>Bug
immune to SLP

>Fighting
immune to Atk/SpAtk reduction, immune to hail damage

>Psychic
immune to confusion, Taunt, Torment, Encore, Disable and Heal Block

>Water
+1 Accuracy in rain, immune to recoil damage (this just buffs Basculin and Relicanth, Water is already strong enough tbh)

>Dragon
immune to HP absorption (i.e. Leech Seed, Giga Drain, Drain Punch and all the shitty moves like that still do damage but the user doesn't gain HP)

>Fire
+1 Evasion in sun
already existing: immune to BRN

>Ice
+1 Def in Hail
already existing: immune to FRZ, immune to hail damage damage, immune to Sheer Cold

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 22:28:36 No.21417640 Report

Quoted By: >>21417836

>>21417537
>making everything OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Oct 2014 22:38:02 No.21417836 Report

Quoted By:

>>21417640
It's not Gen 3 anymore, dude.

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