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Useless Hidden Abilities

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 10:58:57 No.21438710 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21438719 >>21438740 >>21438792 >>21438870 >>21438902 >>21439044 >>21439467

ITT: Useless-ass hidden abilities on pokemon

> Moxie

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:00:44 No.21438719 Report

Quoted By: >>21438740 >>21438967 >>21439281

>>21438710
>Defiant

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:00:49 No.21438721 Report

Quoted By: >>21439796

Heavy Metal is borderline useless.
Light Metal is just a disgrace.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:05:04 No.21438740 Report

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>>21438710
>tfw no special version of Moxie

>>21438719
>tfw its HA wasn't reconnected to Competitive like they did with Scolipede/Chandelure

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:14:23 No.21438778 Report

Quoted By: >>21439008

>justified

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:16:31 No.21438792 Report

Quoted By: >>21439044

>>21438710
>moxie entrainment
Got absolutely fucked by someone who did this with a garchomp

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:24:48 No.21438847 Report

Quoted By: >>21438861 >>21438863 >>21439558 >>21439712 >>21439819

> Unnerve

WHO THE FUCK USES THEM?

40% !//v.13zk5M

40% !//v.13zk5M Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:26:16 No.21438859 Report

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in b4 Truant

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:26:35 No.21438861 Report

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>>21438847
It's normal ability was perfect so they didn't have to give it anything special

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:26:42 No.21438863 Report

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>>21438847
actually seen it used in dubs, unnerve is useful there and sometimes people don't want sand for whatever reason

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:28:25 No.21438870 Report

Quoted By: >>21440070

>>21438710
Symbiosis. Her regular Ability is useless as well. ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:34:42 No.21438902 Report

Quoted By: >>21439105 >>21439281

>>21438710
>Meganium
>Leaf Guard
>like Hydration only shittier since GF hates Sun

a Rain Dish type ability for Grass Types in sun would be cool.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:41:06 No.21438945 Report

Quoted By: >>21438968 >>21439050 >>21439904

>>21438863
If you have Shedinja then yeah you don't want him dying before the first turn ends.

My contribution is Poison Touch. Oh you get a chance to poison. Woohoo. Oh that move has a chance to badly poison? Good luck because these effects are independent and you may just give them the regular poison.

Fuck give him Iron Fist or Tough Claws and he could wreck shit. Hell, even Filter or Regenerator would be far better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:42:26 No.21438955 Report

Quoted By: >>21438984 >>21439243 >>21441479

>Analytic
>115 base speed

I hope they retcon it to Adaptability or Protean. Especially the latter would fit perfectly, since it already gets Reflect Type and Camouflage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:44:37 No.21438967 Report

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>>21438719
>not running Napoleon the Defiant Empoleon and spamming Knock off against Aegiban

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:44:38 No.21438968 Report

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>>21438945
dude everyone uses Poison Touch Muk, it's certaintly more useful than its other two abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:46:42 No.21438984 Report

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>>21438955
Analytic is great for switches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:49:55 No.21439002 Report

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>>21438984
With everything being so bulky, Starmie seldom forces switches these days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:50:41 No.21439008 Report

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>>21438778
I don't think I will ever get over how stupid this thing looks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:54:21 No.21439021 Report

Quoted By: >>21439045

>>21438968
Stench with such shit speed
Sticky Hold in a Knock Off meta

Poison Touch may be the best of the three, but that doesn't mean it isn't shitty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:58:36 No.21439044 Report

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>>21438710
>>21438792
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogondoubles-75588440

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:58:46 No.21439045 Report

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>>21439021
>Sticky Hold does not prevent the 50% Knock off bonus
well that's just horseshit. whats the point then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:59:22 No.21439050 Report

Quoted By: >>21439079

>>21438945
>Fuck give him Iron Fist or Tough Claws
It's a fucking puddle of shit. It doesn't have fists or claws. You are a horrible game designer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 12:02:12 No.21439064 Report

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>Pidgeot has 4 abilities
>None of them are especially good

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 12:04:58 No.21439079 Report

Quoted By: >>21439201

>>21439050
By that logic, then the only Ability he could really benefit from would be Liquid Ooze and it would still be marginally better than Poison Touch.

Actually Liquid Ooze would stop Ferrothorn from walling him. He could switch in on leech seed and do free damage each turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 12:11:34 No.21439105 Report

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>>21438902
Groudon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 12:30:09 No.21439201 Report

Quoted By: >>21439237

>>21439079
No it could get all of the abilities that don't specifically refer to physical traits it doesn't have. A lot of them are about character like Moxie, Contrary etc.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 12:39:01 No.21439237 Report

Quoted By: >>21441508

>>21439201
Look at the model. It clearly has hands. Sure claws may be a stretch, but it has hands, and it's giving us all the finger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 12:40:27 No.21439243 Report

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>>21438955
>he doesn't use Starmie in TR teams
Stay pleb

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 12:50:19 No.21439281 Report

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>>21438902

Ugh, Leaf Guard pisses me off to no end. It could have been so good...

>>21438719

Competitive Empoleon, holy shit. That SubPetaya Agility set might have made a comeback this Gen had that happened.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:08:37 No.21439376 Report

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>keen eye
I think that speaks for itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:12:29 No.21439388 Report

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>giving plus to ampharos

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:20:08 No.21439423 Report

Quoted By: >>21439454 >>21446722

Lets be honest here Gamefreak, not even the newest of players would ever use Magician over Prankster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:22:06 No.21439428 Report

Quoted By: >>21439468 >>21439510 >>21439703 >>21440114 >>21440415

Bulletproof is a shit HA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:25:32 No.21439454 Report

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>>21439423
Magician fits the theme much better though.

Well, not much better. But better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:27:28 No.21439467 Report

Quoted By: >>21439492 >>21439521

>>21438710
Well, at least Pyroar has a hidden ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:27:36 No.21439468 Report

Quoted By: >>21439501

>>21439428
Depends on the distribution really. Chesnaught though appreciates a Sludge Bomb immunity more than a situational boost on it's Grass STAB. And its not even an offensive mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:34:23 No.21439492 Report

Quoted By: >>21439512

>>21439467
Mummy is useful at least, really helpful against mons who are dependent on their ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:37:45 No.21439501 Report

Quoted By: >>21439937

>>21439468
Should Bulletproof also protect against priority damage? That would help increase effectiveness at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:39:15 No.21439510 Report

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>>21439428
Immunity to a handful of common attacks is pretty nice, much better than Overgrow.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:39:48 No.21439512 Report

Quoted By: >>21439518

>>21439492
What's GameFreak's criteria for who gets a hidden ability and who doesn't? I can understand things that form with their abilities, like Cherrim, and the ones with levitate, bar Bronzong, but the rest just seems so random.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:41:02 No.21439518 Report

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>>21439512
>that form
that change forms*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:41:34 No.21439521 Report

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>>21439467
Mummy these days is damn useful, it fucks with every mega that relies on its ability in order to be strong.
What Cofagrigus needs is better HP but that will never happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:45:41 No.21439541 Report

Quoted By: >>21444745 >>21444770

Metagross and every Pokemon with light / heavy metal.
I hope they just destroy these abilitites or make them better

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 13:50:02 No.21439558 Report

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>>21438847
Scarf Unnerve Ice Punch on dubs. Garchomp can suck it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:04:57 No.21439662 Report

Quoted By: >>21439893 >>21440735

Did someone said useless habilities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:10:01 No.21439703 Report

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>>21439428
I think it's cool to have a grass type straight out immune to Ice Beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:10:15 No.21439712 Report

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>>21438847
It's very useful for battle maison. Also my slowking uses a sitrus berry for maximum annoying bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:23:15 No.21439796 Report

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>>21438721
>Light Metal Metagross
>still takes maximum damage from Low Kick and Grass Knot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:26:26 No.21439819 Report

Quoted By: >>21439850

>>21438847
>hitmonlee
>salac berry
>endure+reversal sweep

put in unnerve and it gets stopped

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:29:15 No.21439850 Report

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>>21439819
put in sandstream and it also gets stopped

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:34:53 No.21439893 Report

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>>21439662
Did someone say useless ?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:36:34 No.21439900 Report

Quoted By: >>21439927

King of useless HA coming through

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:37:13 No.21439904 Report

Quoted By: >>21446162

>>21438945
Actually poison touch muk is my favorite set

Klaus 2036-90202872

Klaus 2036-90202872 Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:40:41 No.21439927 Report

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>>21439900
>not doing entrainment+truant durant to force ragequits

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:42:35 No.21439937 Report

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>>21439501
it would also make sense if it affected all multi-strike attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:50:02 No.21440008 Report

Quoted By:

>>21439045
Is this true?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:55:39 No.21440070 Report

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>>21438870
>All these new Fairy mons with Double battle dependant moves and abilities
>barely any double battles throughout X/Y

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 14:59:50 No.21440114 Report

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>>21439428
It needs better distribution, Chesnaught gets some use out of it but not as well as, say, Rhyperior would.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 15:41:52 No.21440415 Report

Quoted By: >>21440475

>>21439428
It needs a buff.

no bomb / ball moves + projectile moves (Bullet seed, pin missile, fling, rock wrecker, etc.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 15:46:55 No.21440475 Report

Quoted By: >>21440527

>>21440415
How great would that do him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 15:52:00 No.21440527 Report

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>>21440475
Well, chest naught can only be hit by physical or psychic based moves that doesn't involve projectiles(Psystrike/shock)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 16:02:36 No.21440626 Report

Quoted By: >>21440699 >>21440925

>Pickpocket

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 16:09:37 No.21440699 Report

Quoted By: >>21440925

>>21440626
It's like a shitty magician

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 16:14:04 No.21440735 Report

Quoted By: >>21444323

>>21439662
Wait... why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 16:39:38 No.21440925 Report

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>>21440626
Could've had Technician.

>>21440699
They're equally shitty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 17:36:06 No.21441479 Report

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>>21438955
Protean would make sense but god is that horrifying

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 17:38:15 No.21441508 Report

Quoted By: >>21443960

>>21439237
IRON fist. Like, as in hard/tough.
Not smushy goop fist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 21:55:35 No.21443960 Report

Quoted By: >>21443972

>>21441508
>Smooshy Goop Fist
>Physical attacks that inflict status have an increased chance to inflict status

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 21:56:35 No.21443972 Report

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>>21443960
So Serene Grace?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 22:33:38 No.21444323 Report

Quoted By: >>21446967

>>21440735
It's HA is Insomnia.
One of it's regular abilities is Vital Spirit.

Really Delibird is one of the worst offenders when it comes to useless/horrible hidden abilities. Not like any ability would save Delibird anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 23:01:45 No.21444745 Report

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>>21439541
Smogon seems to think it's alright for M-Scizor, if only because you'll be Mega-ing right away, so only Light Metal actually ever has any use at that point (if someone manages to get an affected attack in on a switch or something).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 23:03:36 No.21444770 Report

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>>21439541
Heavy Metal - Steel Attacks do, let's say, twice as much damage

Light Metal - Pure/Huge Power, but for Speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Oct 2014 01:13:31 No.21446162 Report

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>>21439904
Poison Touch is the only set.

If Knock Off didn't have increased damage unless it KNOCKED OFF an item, then it would be quickly made obsolete by Sticky Hold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Oct 2014 02:05:49 No.21446722 Report

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>>21439423
magic guard/bounce would have worked too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Oct 2014 02:28:35 No.21446967 Report

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>>21444323
>Mega Delibird
>Gets minmaxed
>155 SPATK
>115 SPD
>Ability: Run Away

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